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 Bahamut.Itze
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By Bahamut.Itze 2011-10-03 00:39:30
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Looking to upgrade a few things on WHM mainly precast for all spells/cures. Also would cure clogs beat out augur feet for starting cast or would augur -> cure clogs work as well?
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-10-03 00:47:34
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Bahamut.Itze said: »
Looking to upgrade a few things on WHM mainly precast for all spells/cures. Also would cure clogs beat out augur feet for starting cast or would augur -> cure clogs work as well?
Pretty convinced Cure clogs > Augurs.Aren't augur's like a 3% fastcast or something when cure clogs is -15% in actual cast.

EDIT: oh and I hear CCT cap was 80% now there is kalilla that did some "max CCT" set in one of her whm thread but at 80% CCT you won't even have time to switch to cure potency/mnd gear (instacast almost) so not really worth it.
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 00:58:18
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
you won't even have time to switch to cure potency/mnd gear (instacast almost) so not really worth it.

Wrong. If you use spellcast and set your midcast value to .4 on cures, it'll swap.

As for your other question use clogs unless you're concerned with recast, then use augurs.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-10-03 01:07:50
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Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Cerberus.Vaness said: »
you won't even have time to switch to cure potency/mnd gear (instacast almost) so not really worth it.

Wrong. If you use spellcast and set your midcast value to .4 on cures, it'll swap.

As for your other question use clogs unless you're concerned with recast, then use augurs.
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I had wayy to many problems.The second you lag a slightly bit you will see yourself curing in something retard.I play on a very old PC so .4s doesn't work very well for me.Guess it really depends on your lag.
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 01:19:30
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
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I had wayy to many problems.The second you lag a slightly bit you will see yourself curing in something retard.I play on a very old PC so .4s doesn't work very well for me.Guess it really depends on your lag.

The game doesn't always load your appropriate set properly onscreen, doesn't necessarily mean you're curing in the wrong stuff. If your cure numbers are wrong then you know something is up. My computer lags sometimes so I don't always swap into the right gear, but it's never mattered too much.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Elysien 2011-10-03 01:21:33
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yea, it's dependent on your lag. just have to test it yourself. I only use 51% in gear, 10% /sch, and .6 midcast is consistent swap times for me. anything less* for me wouldn't be consistent with the swap out, which really bugs me (messes up my recast on cures since i rely on my blessed +1 to reduce my cures by 1 more second). good for curagas.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-10-03 01:23:07
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Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Cerberus.Vaness said: »
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I had wayy to many problems.The second you lag a slightly bit you will see yourself curing in something retard.I play on a very old PC so .4s doesn't work very well for me.Guess it really depends on your lag.

The game doesn't always load your appropriate set properly onscreen, doesn't necessarily mean you're curing in the wrong stuff. If your cure numbers are wrong then you know something is up. My computer lags sometimes so I don't always swap into the right gear, but it's never mattered too much.
Lags really does affect my gearswaps with spellcast and I've seen other ppl complain about it too.I really really end up curing in some *** up ***and you can see it in the cure numbers.

EDIT:Most of the time my .6 works fine but if I get massive lag for a sec, it's where SC doesnt keep up.
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 01:34:54
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
EDIT:Most of the time my .6 works fine but if I get massive lag for a sec, it's where SC doesnt keep up.

Try .4, if it doesn't work it's your computer/net. :x .6 is too long if you're /sch with a decent precast set.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-10-03 01:39:38
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Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Cerberus.Vaness said: »
EDIT:Most of the time my .6 works fine but if I get massive lag for a sec, it's where SC doesnt keep up.

Try .4, if it doesn't work it's your computer/net. :x .6 is too long if you're /sch with a decent precast set.
.6 is more then enough for a 50% CCT set ;o Well to me anyway.Just when I get massive lag that it *** up.
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By Fenrir.Enternius 2011-10-03 01:45:35
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The life of a white mage must be hectic if you can't afford to wait an extra .2 seconds. Jesus.
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-10-03 01:48:11
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Fenrir.Enternius said: »
The life of a white mage must be hectic if you can't afford to wait an extra .2 seconds. Jesus.

It's about being optimal.

Nobody mentioned not being able to afford .2 seconds.
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 01:52:51
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
.6 is more then enough for a 50% CCT set ;o Well to me anyway.Just when I get massive lag that it *** up.

Are you sure you're at 50% with gear/merits and light arts or /rdm fastcast trait? The cap is 80%.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-03 02:02:47
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*confession*




I have no idea

The game is getting boring for me and loosing interest, haven't updated my sets in a long time.

Might join up with a linkshell soon to do VW stuff, that might spark my interest again and get my WHM updated. ATM all I do is hang out with friends and chill during my free time.
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 02:06:10
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
*confession*




I have no idea

The game is getting boring for me and loosing interest, haven't updated my sets in a long time.

Might join up with a linkshell soon to do VW stuff, that might spark my interest again and get my WHM updated. ATM all I do is hang out with friends and chill during my free time.

Voidwatch is a lot of fun. Honestly the only thing that keeps me entertained. @@; Otherwise I just breed/race chocobos...
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-03 02:07:23
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I need to start doing that ; ;

Would love to race chocobos
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 02:08:29
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
I need to start doing that ; ;

Would love to race chocobos

:<! It's fun. Well, the real races, not the grinding races. @_____@;
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By Bahamut.Itze 2011-10-03 02:36:44
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You all suck for not answering the first question >:( mad cat is mad.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-10-03 02:47:44
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Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Cerberus.Vaness said: »
.6 is more then enough for a 50% CCT set ;o Well to me anyway.Just when I get massive lag that it *** up.

Are you sure you're at 50% with gear/merits and light arts or /rdm fastcast trait? The cap is 80%.
Meh old on, been pilling up fastcast as I get some lemme math this set....

EDIT:I got 47% cure spellcasting minus in gears.The you can add the merits (20%?) and sch (10%). I guess I got 80% what the hell.....me.Doesn't seem to be casting as fast as some other ppl D:


Did I miscount? D: 2% fastcast head, 3% fastcast on Dalmy and -6% curespellcasting on shield.

rofl.GOING TO BED.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Elysien 2011-10-03 02:59:54
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Bahamut.Itze said: »
You all suck for not answering the first question >:( mad cat is mad.

clogs are better and you would need to precast those.

edit: also be useful to post what you currently use
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 03:05:13
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Bahamut.Itze said: »
You all suck for not answering the first question >:( mad cat is mad.

I did. It depends on what you want. If you want to cast faster use clogs, if you're having problems with recast timers use augurs. @@;
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-10-03 03:05:55
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
rofl.GOING TO BED.

Yeah, you need .4 midcast or even lower. That's why your gear isn't swapping. :x
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By Quetzalcoatl.Elysien 2011-10-03 03:06:43
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regarding recast timers, should be using blessed/+1 over augur.
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By Asura.Werdxi 2011-10-03 03:06:49
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im not sure if fast cast quite caps out but i have basically every pre 95 fast cast piece available to whm and i dont see my cures anymore. they're more like JAs at this point, so whether it caps at 80% or not, its definately fast enough.
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By Bahamut.Itze 2011-10-03 03:09:36
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Wanted a fast cast set posted~ that helps so ty c:
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By esdain 2011-10-03 04:04:51
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I fancy my new Prolix Ring. Fast Cast on a ring is handy. -Enmity is a bonus.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2011-10-03 11:23:32
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Bahamut.Itze said: »
Wanted a fast cast set posted~ that helps so ty c:
This is pretty much the ideal one you can build right now:
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By Phoenix.Bohgo 2011-10-03 11:41:08
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Facio Gages give -3% cure casting time as well.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-03 11:50:17
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Asura.Pergatory said: »
Bahamut.Itze said: »
Wanted a fast cast set posted~ that helps so ty c:
This is pretty much the ideal one you can build right now:


then switch to:



Very easy -cast time if you can put some work into getting one
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-10-03 11:59:46
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Asura.Pergatory said: »
Bahamut.Itze said: »
Wanted a fast cast set posted~ that helps so ty c:
This is pretty much the ideal one you can build right now:
Waist doesn't do anything for cures. Body is semi-annoying for Spellcast users because you're going A>B>A with AF3+2>Heka's>AF3+2. It may not pick up on the swap fast enough and leave you in Heka's at midcast because it thinks you're still wearing AF3. Using <cmd when="midcast">input /equip Body "Orison Bliaud +2"</cmd> fixes that though.

Cuffs have less than 2% Fast Cast, I personally would not waste inventory on them. The 2% items (wand, ammo, earring, ring, back) are still pretty minor, but if you have the space for them then knock yourself out.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-03 12:08:31
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The staff and body is 27%, legs and feet are 27%, with your merited 20% and 10-15% on sub (lets just do 10). That's 84%. Take one merit* out of cast time and put it into something else.

The less items you have in your precast the better.
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