Mahatma Slops Vs. Jet Seraweels

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Mahatma Slops vs. Jet Seraweels
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By Hades.Jacinda 2009-04-22 11:33:26
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Didgist said:
I remember camping these for people wondering why in gods name they would give up 1 INT on blm.

Guess this thread seperates the hardcore foaming-at-the mouth blms from the ones who just play it when SAM gets boring.


That may be true, as I'm certainly not a "hardcore" anything. In time, maybe I will change my mind and decide to go with those slops. For now, my seraweels suit me just fine, and haven't proven to be a hindrance on any group event or solo task that I've undertaken.

I don't know, it just seems somewhat silly that such a huge deal is made over comparing these two items when at the end of the day, what's going to matter most is the person's skill and reaction to situations, not what they are wearing.
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By Shiva.Clowdd 2009-04-22 11:33:57
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Malekith said:
I'm a fan of the jets myself. I just abhor white box whorage with certain exceptions, add in the negative stats and I'm not sold.

Yet as with all things, it depends upon your build. Especially if you're going for the 320 (skill) / 120 (INT). If you need that +1 INT from the Mahatma slops to reach/ stay at 120 there you go. Stay with it.

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negatives are bleh but i use on rdm solo anyway -5 or -6 vit no thx
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-22 11:34:21
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Hypnotizd said:
Who needs invites when you can solo all the way to 75?


That's gotta be so *** boring though >.<
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-04-22 11:34:39
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i think invites are good for blm imo, it helps understand and think when you come into situations with other jobs in a party, especially if u do endgame alliances.
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By Shiva.Clowdd 2009-04-22 11:35:57
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lol @ the jet seraweels scrubs~

lol@ the e-thug wannabe
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-22 11:43:17
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Xxnumbertwoxx said:
Hypnotizd said:
Who needs invites when you can solo all the way to 75?


That's gotta be so *** boring though >.<

No not really. Besides when you solo you can /heal and go grab a snack, make a sammich, use the restroom come back 10 minute later and not have people bitching that you were gone forever=P Seeing 400~600exp/kill is also pretty entertaining =D
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-04-22 11:45:52
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Hypnotizd said:
Xxnumbertwoxx said:
Hypnotizd said:
Who needs invites when you can solo all the way to 75?


That's gotta be so *** boring though >.<

No not really. Besides when you solo you can /heal and go grab a snack, make a sammich, use the restroom come back 10 minute later and not have people bitching that you were gone forever=P Seeing 400~600exp/kill is also pretty entertaining =D


I prefer soloing to parties on BLM. BLU solo vs. party is debatable; I like soloing stuff, but it's rough on the wallet. Busting SCs on /THF in parties is fun! Gogo 1500-2000+ Gravitations/Lights.
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-04-22 11:48:21
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Azulmagia said:
Hypnotizd said:
Azulmagia said:
Wooooodum said:
Yeah, but who cares about BLU?


Our invite rate is slightly less crappy than BLM's!

Who needs invites when you can solo all the way to 75?


Both BLU and BLM can so, eh. A lot of new BLMs don't seem to have the guts to, though :\

BLM is going to be my 100%-pure-solo-to-75 job. (It's at 20, now...!)

EDIT: Wait, bleah, that means I'll never get to play a different job in endgame again if I do that. Now I remember why it's still 20.

Noo just don't merit it! My LS got a few new blms with merits so now I can go as other jobs to events!
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2009-04-22 11:59:45
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I nuke in Errant Slops unless it's a Dyna-Tav.

I am definately not the hardcore BLM type, but the ones I know get so pissed when this discussion comes up haha.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2009-04-22 12:08:05
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Well, I'm not a retard lol. I knew which one was better before I made the thread. I wasn't asking which was better, I was just asking if that 1 extra INT is so incredibly important when I would already have a pretty good amount of INT.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-22 12:29:47
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Well, I'm not a retard lol. I knew which one was better before I made the thread.

Get the one you know is better. If you don't care enough about BLM to get the better piece then why ask on a public forum where BLMs will be replying? Do you want someone to pat you on the back and tell you its ok to not get the better piece? I don't see that happening.
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By Seraph.Marylyn 2009-04-22 12:33:34
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I think i'm the only one that thinks seraweels are ugs >_>... but ya, since when was mp a priority on brm(unless you're a galka cause you can't nuke anyways :P) Mahatma or GTFO

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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2009-04-22 12:39:45
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If I understood the OP correctly, it's not a case of "Which should I get?", it's more a case of "Is the +3~5 damage I'd get on a nuke WORTH the ~100k price difference?"

I continually ask the same thing to people, "Is it really worth 500k just to get +1 to something and a white box? Really?"

No.. it isn't worth ~100k for +1 INT, BUT unless you're going to get something like Morrigans (the only thing I could find with more +INT after a quick search), then it's likely to be the best you'll get for a long time, so in that respect, yes.. yes it is worth 100k. If you're only left with upgrading pieces of gear now, instead of buying pieces fresh, then go for it. Needless to say, the +1INT will benefit you (MND might do too, I just don't need MND gear >.>), whether you notice it or not.

tl;dr's:

If you have other stuff to buy, get that before you worry about +1 INT. If you're upgrading and you have all the key pieces, then go for it.. unless you're getting obvious better pants soon, these'll last a long time.
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-04-22 12:42:47
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Excesspain said:
Azulmagia said:
Hypnotizd said:
Azulmagia said:
Wooooodum said:
Yeah, but who cares about BLU?


Our invite rate is slightly less crappy than BLM's!

Who needs invites when you can solo all the way to 75?


Both BLU and BLM can so, eh. A lot of new BLMs don't seem to have the guts to, though :\

BLM is going to be my 100%-pure-solo-to-75 job. (It's at 20, now...!)

EDIT: Wait, bleah, that means I'll never get to play a different job in endgame again if I do that. Now I remember why it's still 20.

Noo just don't merit it! My LS got a few new blms with merits so now I can go as other jobs to events!


Or level PLD. As soon as I got a Hydra Haubert, my BLM ceased to exist.
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By Hades.Jacinda 2009-04-22 12:45:53
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Bojack said:
Well, I'm not a retard lol. I knew which one was better before I made the thread. I wasn't asking which was better, I was just asking if that 1 extra INT is so incredibly important when I would already have a pretty good amount of INT.


So you knew the answer before asking the question. In that case, the Mahatma are obviously the better of the two in terms of what a BLM can get from it and if the best is what you want, then get them. Is having Mahatma instead of the Seraweels going to imbue you with powers to destroy anything and everything? Not by a long shot.

You'll notice more of an impact with INT in the earlier levels when your elemental magic skill is low. By now, the difference that +1 INT is going to give you is marginal at best.
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By Caitsith.Bamill 2009-04-22 12:59:33
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what the peoples above said
Mahatma are fugly, but them or go level something else >.>)b
roughly 100k or so more than Jet on you're server.
the 1 INT makes a huge difference, it's worth it!
You start to see this more when you can stack an extra INT or 2 in a slot
ie. Snow/Omniscient Rings instead of lolDiamond rings, Demon Helm +1, Prism Cape (Ixion and Gleeman's capes are amazing if/when you can get'm)

MP wont matter too much, get yourself a good dark magic build
(Skill >MAcc >FastCast >Haste) and aspir will take care of that.

same scenario as SAM's in Hachiman body, don't gimp yourself to save money >.>)b

of course if you need to finish HQ staves i'd do that first before other gear.

as for looks in the legs slot or w/e idle in Igqira o.o)b
Eva +10, Phys. Dmg Curse, and a black abyss for a crotch, who could ask for more!
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-04-22 13:07:15
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Kind of Off-Topic

Bamill said:
same scenario as SAM's in Hachiman body, don't gimp yourself to save money >.>)b


I know never to TP in this, since hopefully I will have my Togi by tomorrow (Kirin has been stingy!) but this is a viable WS peice until something like Osode right?
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By Caitsith.Bamill 2009-04-22 13:11:56
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Excesspain said:
Kind of Off-Topic

Bamill said:
same scenario as SAM's in Hachiman body, don't gimp yourself to save money >.>)b


I know never to TP in this, since hopefully I will have my Togi by tomorrow (Kirin has been stingy!) but this is a viable WS peice until something like Osode right?


Haub +1 over Togi imo.
but aye. Hachi for WS until you can get Osode isn't the worst thing in the world, just never full time! lol
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2009-04-22 13:14:23
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Excesspain said:
I know never to TP in this, since hopefully I will have my Togi by tomorrow (Kirin has been stingy!) but this is a viable WS peice until something like Osode right?


If you mean for SAM...Never, ever use Shura Togi for TP. Even an NQ Haub will outperform it.

@OP: Mahatma. One extra INT in the legs, One extra on the back, One extra on the ear...It adds up quickly.
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By Asura.Sharpe 2009-04-22 13:17:14
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Until I finish MP merits I'll keep my Jets. SCH/RDM MP in nuking gear is *** woeful.
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-04-22 13:20:34
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Baelorn said:
Excesspain said:
I know never to TP in this, since hopefully I will have my Togi by tomorrow (Kirin has been stingy!) but this is a viable WS peice until something like Osode right?


If you mean for SAM...Never, ever use Shura Togi for TP. Even an NQ Haub will outperform it.

@OP: Mahatma. One extra INT in the legs, One extra on the back, One extra on the ear...It adds up quickly.

Good to know, SAM is only 67 atm and Togi is for MNK mainly. SAM in my LS told it was great for SAM, guess he is wrong haha
ok /off-topic end
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-04-22 13:21:45
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Excesspain said:
Kind of Off-Topic

Bamill said:
same scenario as SAM's in Hachiman body, don't gimp yourself to save money >.>)b


I know never to TP in this, since hopefully I will have my Togi by tomorrow (Kirin has been stingy!) but this is a viable WS peice until something like Osode right?


I hate that I'm saying this but for Y/G/K Osode > Domaru +1 > Usukane > Domaru > Askar > Haub +1 > Haub
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-04-22 13:23:16
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Excesspain said:
Baelorn said:
Excesspain said:
I know never to TP in this, since hopefully I will have my Togi by tomorrow (Kirin has been stingy!) but this is a viable WS peice until something like Osode right?


If you mean for SAM...Never, ever use Shura Togi for TP. Even an NQ Haub will outperform it.

@OP: Mahatma. One extra INT in the legs, One extra on the back, One extra on the ear...It adds up quickly.

Good to know, SAM is only 67 atm and Togi is for MNK ONLY. SAM in my LS told it was great for SAM, guess he is wrong haha
ok /off-topic end


Fixed, and yeah Haub NQ >>> togi on sam
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By Seraph.Marylyn 2009-04-22 13:26:54
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Sharpe said:
Until I finish MP merits I'll keep my Jets. SCH/RDM MP in nuking gear is *** woeful.


so true for sch ;( /pat
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-22 13:54:18
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All this talk of INT on the legs, what about the INT between our legs eh fellas?
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2009-04-22 13:59:43
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Mahatma's Wang Wooooodum?

lol imagine wearing something akin to the Igqira gear as underwear.
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By Bahamut.Kelia 2009-04-22 20:35:52
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o god @ this thread
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-04-22 21:51:27
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I used to think Jet Seraweels did look better than Mahatma. I then levelled a mage and realised they look considerably worse since they're actually gimp (it's like wearing a sign on your legs saying you're gimp <_<).

Statwise they're not bad, but because of the similar or even greater price in some cases, combined with the fact they are inferior, it makes them a gimp piece (see Kyudogi vs Osode, Denali Bonnet vs Walahra Turban etc). If they were 15k or so I don't think anyone would complain about them, it's the fact they are the same price as Mahatma.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-04-23 00:12:52
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Guys guys:

User submitted image

Or GTFO.
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-04-23 01:05:11
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Oh *** SSR srsly, I'm like 0/over9000 on that damn NM ; ;

As for the look, Jet or Mahatma sux, use AFv2 legs. These look way better than morrigan :

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Why ? Because they're more rare period. Even if stats are nearly the same as NQ.
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