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Mahatma Slops vs. Jet Seraweels
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By Midgardsormr.Serbzook 2009-04-22 10:30:53
Alyria said: If you are like some of those blm's that wear idle/standing gear
Haha, we talking about the BLMs wearing full AF2 set, kirin's pole and a bunch of other gear that a BLM cant care less about just for the sake of displaying that they have it? makes me lol each time i see one.
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-04-22 10:34:07
Serbzook said: Alyria said: If you are like some of those blm's that wear idle/standing gear
Haha, we talking about the BLMs wearing full AF2 set, kirin's pole and a bunch of other gear that a BLM cant care less about just for the sake of displaying that they have it? makes me lol each time i see one. lol yes, i dont have a set. I just was saying that cause its funny to me. But yea negative effect like -agi, -def or -dex is really not gonna hurt you that bad lol
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-04-22 10:37:12
Enternius said: Cecilharvey said: Hypnotizd said: Frobeus said: Hypnotizd said: Frobeus said: Hey guyz ruby ring or flame ring? Triumph Ring is the correct answer. The Lv.74 rings are ugly. False! Triumph ring model is ugly :/ but blue box is pretty ! I dunno... that flame ring looks bleah Flame rings better for WS such as Spinning slash with a INT mod, now if you don't mind the MND- just go with it, its 150k (approx) lesser than the Triumph. Guillotine is 25% STR and 25% MND mod, you might as well just be using a Puissance Ring or Sun Ring, lol. I'd take Ruby for Guillotine before Flame Ring. Nupe.
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By Lakshmi.Prinnysmash 2009-04-22 10:39:51
Serbzook said: Alyria said: If you are like some of those blm's that wear idle/standing gear
Haha, we talking about the BLMs wearing full AF2 set, kirin's pole and a bunch of other gear that a BLM cant care less about just for the sake of displaying that they have it? makes me lol each time i see one. Hey now, every piece of gear you mentioned is useful for BLM. MND Set Dark Magic Set Conserve MP Set I don't leave home without them.
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By Siren.Ahou 2009-04-22 10:44:41
Jurai said: More MP might take longer to activate latent on Uggy?
well if you not only have the extra inventory for an item that you'd likely not get use out of more than once or twice per week/month, and you think having an extra 8 mab when you're less than 8 mp short of latent mp without the extra 15 mp (which is going to require spellcast), is worth 200~300k, then by all means, get both. personally i'd just swap my morion+1 to loq earring in those cases and save my self 300k and an inventory slot, at the cost of 1 less int, but also having ugly active another 7-8 mp sooner than it would be with jet (which i still don't even think would be worth the 3 mins to make the spellcast rule to do so, considering it's unlikely that i'd actually land at that mp, but i'd also just lose 5 int/2 int+7skill from earring+torque if cmp procs when i otherwise would have had it active with the extra mp).
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-04-22 10:47:42
Prinnysmash said: Serbzook said: Alyria said: If you are like some of those blm's that wear idle/standing gear
Haha, we talking about the BLMs wearing full AF2 set, kirin's pole and a bunch of other gear that a BLM cant care less about just for the sake of displaying that they have it? makes me lol each time i see one. Hey now, every piece of gear you mentioned is useful for BLM. MND Set Dark Magic Set Conserve MP Set I don't leave home without them. those sets are different than idle/standing gear :P i have gear for mind,dark, etc. :)
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-22 10:52:06
Be fair. The STR and DEX minus on the Mahatma Slops means you'll miss vital attacks for Spirit Taker or do 0 damage. Plus, the AGI minus might stop you evading attacks. Black Mages are A+ in Evasion, after all.
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By Midgardsormr.Serbzook 2009-04-22 10:54:32
Prinnysmash said: Serbzook said: Alyria said: If you are like some of those blm's that wear idle/standing gear
Haha, we talking about the BLMs wearing full AF2 set, kirin's pole and a bunch of other gear that a BLM cant care less about just for the sake of displaying that they have it? makes me lol each time i see one. Hey now, every piece of gear you mentioned is useful for BLM. MND Set Dark Magic Set Conserve MP Set I don't leave home without them. i leave home without em, with full enfeebling magic set, nuking set, resting set and the HP/MP convert stuff + some random gear for "just in case" im pretty much 67/70 atm on gobby bag (yes i can get more but it requires walking over to jeuno to talk to npc bla bla bla, too much work). I find BLMs that have the will to macro and carry gear for MND and conserve MP very motivated. Conserve MP at the best, will be expectd of you to have if you are PLing someone on BLM, i find no other usage for it, i love when the ability kicks in but i wont go out of my way to macro it over INT and MAB. MND based spells will also be rarely used and have a significant effecte on for BLM type of things you will do. Dark magic spells macro and gear are on borderline of what im willing to carry in my gobby bag. (all i wanna say is that i value enfeebling magic, nuking, resting gear above the other 3 which you mentioned even tho they are valid as well)
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By Lakshmi.Prinnysmash 2009-04-22 10:56:35
Well MND is strictly for max Stoneskin... and I didn't use to carry all that stuff but Mog Satchel ftw! so much room o.o
EDIT: My Conserve MP really only comes out when I'm the only blm after an event, but hey, I'm a gear ***.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-22 10:57:54
Wooooodum said: Be fair. The STR and DEX minus on the Mahatma Slops means you'll miss vital attacks for Spirit Taker or do 0 damage. Plus, the AGI minus might stop you evading attacks. Black Mages are A+ in Evasion, after all. Do I detect an ever so slight hint of /sacrasm? =)
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-22 11:01:50
Hypnotizd said: Do I detect an ever so slight hint of /sacrasm? =) Who, me?! Never!
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By Bahamut.Leonelf 2009-04-22 11:03:18
i don't mind having 1 INT less, its just that the Slops look so *** ugly, i like Jet better, looks good on me ^^ maybe i'll buy the slops and switch in only for nukes, when i have more gil to spare.
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-22 11:05:52
Leonelf said: i don't mind having 1 INT less, its just that the Slops look so *** ugly, i like Jet better, looks good on me ^^ maybe i'll buy the slops and switch in only for nukes, when i have more gil to spare. Incorrect. Nothing looks good on Male Elvaans. =\
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By Bahamut.Leonelf 2009-04-22 11:07:06
Wooooodum said:
Incorrect.
Nothing looks good on Male Elvaans. =\
Are you kidding me ? Elvaan looks good in everything! well except Thief gear ...
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-22 11:07:07
Leonelf said: i don't mind having 1 INT less, its just that the Slops look so *** ugly, i like Jet better, looks good on me ^^ maybe i'll buy the slops and switch in only for nukes, when i have more gil to spare. Next you are going to say that you use spider torque because you don't like the looks of enfeebling torque...
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By Bahamut.Leonelf 2009-04-22 11:09:31
Hypnotizd said: Next you are going to say that you use spider torque because you don't like the looks of enfeebling torque...
Well 2 is a bigger difference so no. Besides, the neck equip doesn't display on your char ...
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By Caitsith.Surreal 2009-04-22 11:12:22
It should!
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2009-04-22 11:16:07
I remember camping these for people wondering why in gods name they would give up 1 INT on blm.
Guess this thread seperates the hardcore foaming-at-the mouth blms from the ones who just play it when SAM gets boring.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-22 11:17:15
Leonelf said: Hypnotizd said: Next you are going to say that you use spider torque because you don't like the looks of enfeebling torque...
Well 2 is a bigger difference so no. Besides, the neck equip doesn't display on your char ... You see my point. If you are choosing a lesser item that costs basically the same amount of gil specifically for looks on BLM then you are doing it wrong. BLM is all about INT, Magic Attack Bonus and Elemental Magic Skill. Also a lesser (but still very important) emphasis on Enfeebling Magic Skill, Dark Magic Skill and MND.
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By Caitsith.Surreal 2009-04-22 11:18:26
Some people think looks > functionality
Luckily i'm not like that! WHOOO
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By Ifrit.Jamesglogan 2009-04-22 11:19:01
Ok I see where everyone is going. But take this in fact:
Show up as BLM with a Crap load of INT but 790 MP points.
Show up as BLM with Decent Amount of MP but with 921 MP points.
Whats your choice?
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-22 11:19:32
Jamesglogan said: Ok I see where everyone is going. But take this in fact:
Show up as BLM with a Crap load of INT but 790 MP points.
Show up as BLM with Decent Amount of [INT] but with 921 MP points.
Whats your choice? 790 MP
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By Caitsith.Surreal 2009-04-22 11:20:03
I'd have both M.Slops and Jet's.
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By Ifrit.Jamesglogan 2009-04-22 11:21:33
For real I got IMO like a dozen times with my MP pool LOL.
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-04-22 11:25:50
To throw BLU into the argument, we've got stuff (mostly weaponskills) with STR/INT, STR/MND, or VIT/MND mods. Since we don't get +7 STR legs, +7 INT or MND would be useful and could double as a nuking/aspiring/etc. piece. I wouldn't exactly Savage Blade/Expiacion with the -STR nor would I Magic Fruit with the -VIT. Jets are also 200k cheaper than Mahatma on Fairy.
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-22 11:26:25
Yeah, but who cares about BLU?
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-04-22 11:27:56
Wooooodum said: Yeah, but who cares about BLU? Our invite rate is slightly less crappy than BLM's! Dyna is a different story.
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By Bahamut.Leonelf 2009-04-22 11:29:15
Azulmagia said: Wooooodum said: Yeah, but who cares about BLU? Our invite rate is slightly less crappy than BLM's! Rofl.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-22 11:29:49
Azulmagia said: Wooooodum said: Yeah, but who cares about BLU? Our invite rate is slightly less crappy than BLM's! Who needs invites when you can solo all the way to 75?
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-04-22 11:32:28
Hypnotizd said: Azulmagia said: Wooooodum said: Yeah, but who cares about BLU? Our invite rate is slightly less crappy than BLM's! Who needs invites when you can solo all the way to 75? Both BLU and BLM can so, eh. A lot of new BLMs don't seem to have the guts to, though :\ BLM is going to be my 100%-pure-solo-to-75 job. (It's at 20, now...!) EDIT: Wait, bleah, that means I'll never get to play a different job in endgame again if I do that. Now I remember why it's still 20.
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I know a lot of people will say go with the Slops, or that the Seraweels are gimp, but honestly, is the 1 less INT and MIND really 'THAT' bad? I'm considering the Seraweels instead because I'd really like to add to my MP pool as I don't have that much as it is. I think I have a pretty decent amount of INT and the extra 1 from the Slops won't really be that huge of a difference. Thoughts?
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