The Top 5 DD

Add to this an Almace offhanding a multi-hit

Mavi mintan+2 says gtfo

Over 5 mins, not including 2 hour, Blu probably.
Over 5 mins, including soon to be Blu 2 hour, Blu definately.
Over 5mins, including 2 hour currently. Couldn't say, possibly Sam.
Including 2 hour alters the playing field somewhat though with the imminent addition to Blu's 2-hourdoesn't really change anything.

Blu, solo, has ~40% Haste for the full 5 minutes and an easy 6/tic Refresh before swapping out DD pieces. Consider this as adding 600mp to there pool of anywhere between 700-1k I guess depending on race. Natively can set Double Attack, Dual Wield II, Store TP, Fast Cast & so on.
Add to this an Almace offhanding a multi-hit AND the ability to solo SC themselves, it is not only one of, if not THE top potential DD in any low buff situation (and high buff), but also the most versatile job in the game.

However

Fully merited/geared Caldbolg DRK with 3mins of ~50% Haste, 2mins @26% thanks to Desperate blows, Souleater + aftermath (I'm assuming by "pure DD" your implying healing is a non issue). Would quite possibly be the single largest source of damage in the game over 5 mins IF done properly.

Kraken club would fail, even with healing covered, you'd have 1min of Souleater @26% haste with a C- (which is the difference of like ~70 combat skill @90) weapon. NO outside buffs remember and presumeably a mob that matters (ie, you will not be capping hit rate on it with a club lol). Of course if you did have a decent hit rate on whatever it is, starting with KClub and switching to Cal would probably be applicable.


I am not shocked that Blu has retained the overall stigma it always had as being a sub par DD, a solid 95% of the people who play it have no idea wtf they are doing and continue to ruin it's reputation. It is also without argue the single most gear intensive job in the game and the reason I originally started using spellcast, I think most players just cannot be bothered to push it. Personally I was consistantly parsing top 3 at every event @75 when it was considered lol & even parsed comparatively against BLMs for slightly longer nuke fights (I forget what the fish NM in sea is called, been too long) thanks to our spells efficiency over time, solidifying an almost permenant spot in my LS at the time as a Blue Mage (as much as the leader hated it). Pretty much the only thing I changed for were Kirin/Baha zergs.

BLU can do better than Mavi Mintan +2 for the body if going for pure melee DD

With what exactly? Loki's? no outside buffs includes atmas surely

If the mob has no resistance is not attacking you back and over a 5 minute period of time this should be the DD order

MNK > NIN > WAR > THF > BLU/DRK

The reason for this is Damage over time NIN has the fastest attack speed in the game with full iga +2 and MNK is just right behind it with Tantra+2 you add the rest of the gear of best in game mnk just hits harder that's why they are first and 3 minutes of impetus makes it like that war has such a good setup for weapon skills its nuts so they will keep up with the others but they attack much slower THF would be 4th because again attack speed but you will get in 4 sneak attacks and 4 tricks 5 if its merited (Dunno if merits play in assume they are) as it has been said BLU will eventualy run out of MP i give best gear and good refresh setup 2 minutes max if they are going all out DRK with a Kclub and all that will do ALOT of damage for 30 secs but then switch to a scythe (assuming) and w/o haste they attack very slow so the others will pass the drk after the 3rd minute this is given best gear on all jobs over a 5 minute span that would be the order i believe.

I laugh all the way to the bank as I beat these lesser DD into submission.

Mavi mintan+2 says gtfo

Over 5 mins, not including 2 hour, Blu probably.
Over 5 mins, including soon to be Blu 2 hour, Blu definately.
Over 5mins, including 2 hour currently. Couldn't say, possibly Sam.
Including 2 hour alters the playing field somewhat though with the imminent addition to Blu's 2-hourdoesn't really change anything.

Blu, solo, has ~40% Haste for the full 5 minutes and an easy 6/tic Refresh before swapping out DD pieces. Consider this as adding 600mp to there pool of anywhere between 700-1k I guess depending on race. Natively can set Double Attack, Dual Wield II, Store TP, Fast Cast & so on.
Add to this an Almace offhanding a multi-hit AND the ability to solo SC themselves, it is not only one of, if not THE top potential DD in any low buff situation (and high buff), but also the most versatile job in the game.

However

Fully merited/geared Caldbolg DRK with 3mins of ~50% Haste, 2mins @26% thanks to Desperate blows, Souleater + aftermath (I'm assuming by "pure DD" your implying healing is a non issue). Would quite possibly be the single largest source of damage in the game over 5 mins IF done properly.

Kraken club would fail, even with healing covered, you'd have 1min of Souleater @26% haste with a C- (which is the difference of like ~70 combat skill @90) weapon. NO outside buffs remember and presumeably a mob that matters (ie, you will not be capping hit rate on it with a club lol). Of course if you did have a decent hit rate on whatever it is, starting with KClub and switching to Cal would probably be applicable.


I am not shocked that Blu has retained the overall stigma it always had as being a sub par DD, a solid 95% of the people who play it have no idea wtf they are doing and continue to ruin it's reputation. It is also without argue the single most gear intensive job in the game and the reason I originally started using spellcast, I think most players just cannot be bothered to push it. Personally I was consistantly parsing top 3 at every event @75 when it was considered lol & even parsed comparatively against BLMs for slightly longer nuke fights (I forget what the fish NM in sea is called, been too long) thanks to our spells efficiency over time, solidifying an almost permenant spot in my LS at the time as a Blue Mage (as much as the leader hated it). Pretty much the only thing I changed for were Kirin/Baha zergs.

If the mob has no resistance is not attacking you back and over a 5 minute period of time this should be the DD order

MNK > NIN > WAR > THF > BLU/DRK

The reason for this is Damage over time NIN has the fastest attack speed in the game with full iga +2 and MNK is just right behind it with Tantra+2 you add the rest of the gear of best in game mnk just hits harder that's why they are first and 3 minutes of impetus makes it like that war has such a good setup for weapon skills its nuts so they will keep up with the others but they attack much slower THF would be 4th because again attack speed but you will get in 4 sneak attacks and 4 tricks 5 if its merited (Dunno if merits play in assume they are) as it has been said BLU will eventualy run out of MP i give best gear and good refresh setup 2 minutes max if they are going all out DRK with a Kclub and all that will do ALOT of damage for 30 secs but then switch to a scythe (assuming) and w/o haste they attack very slow so the others will pass the drk after the 3rd minute this is given best gear on all jobs over a 5 minute span that would be the order i believe.

6/tick refresh is still 550mp in 5 minutes after cost of Battery Charge. I'd say that fairly doubles BLU's magical output.

Souleater is only going to be up for 1 minute, and only 30 seconds of that is gonna be at max HP (the rest is at some average around 60% of max after ~30 more hits).

Comparisons of damage should never be in terms of time, though, especially arbitrary periods such as exactly five minutes. If someone truly wanted to compare between jobs, particularly between mage and melee and hybrids, it should be a damage target with performance measured in lowest time to reach that amount of damage.

Y'all postin' in a moran thread, not a troll thread.

Will some people please parse him and shut him up.

swift belt

why do people still think that zerg drk (even with kraken club) is amazing or even remotely good anymore

even if their hp was capped the entire time during souleater zerg, i'm positive you'd get better results just using it with caladbolg; terms of normal damage have increased dramatically since lv75, zerging has not, bar a handful of new/better hp gear, which doesn't even come close for even viably comparing the two sides of the coin

People like to fanboy ***. Ex. Draylo/Blu.

Calad / Apoc probably beat KC zerg depending on acc/time/buff factors. Apoc and KC were somewhat close at 75 after the haste nerf.

Why does it bother you so much?

Because you post it in every other thread. Someone could ask what your favorite flavor of popcorn seasoning is and you'd chime in with "BLU!".
You get topic-banned from half of the threads and still you don't take the hint.

On top of that, when I used to make off-the-wall comments about my drg, people would hammer me with "parse it, bro.", "what are you basing this off of?" etc and I would be required to answer those questions or stfu. You say one world (actually a 3 letter abbreviation of two words) as 50% of your post count, and it gets old.

I give you that I felt your comments in a thread, that I had authored, about HOW to use blue mage were helpful. That doesn't excuse 2000 posts of "my blu r teh best neener neener neener".