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By Brolli 2012-02-10 13:11:49
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i would take take drg over sam , i don't think anyone uses sam anyways , everything is now UKON UKON UKON , till nerf comes on feb 14
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-10 13:13:45
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No he's right. The only thing DRG has is a moderately high TP gain rate. DRG's in the same league as BLU, DNC, etc..
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-02-10 13:13:55
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Latifah said: »
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
No. DRG will never be a top DD slot unless you have an extreme amount of atk buffs.
i think you need to educate yourself more about drg

They wear purple... they can't be serious dd's ...
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-02-10 13:15:10
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Sure, go ahead and invite inferior DDs, bothers me none. Your just screaming out to me "I don't know how to lead! or know what I'm doing"
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By Thanzo187 2012-02-10 13:16:03
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Go chant some sutras and leave the damage to the real jobs.
Man monks are a real job and have been around for far longer than any other jobs you're just jelly cause we can kick
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-10 13:16:36
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What I'm gathering from this thread is we need more WAR nerfs:

*Knock DA down to 7%
*Knock attack bonus down two levels
*Knock Critical Attack Bonus down two levels
*Lower Ukko's Fury and Upheaval's fTP by 1.0
*Make Defender a Job Trait rather than a Job Ability


Balance achieved, they'd still be better than everyone else but not so much so.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-02-10 13:20:08
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WAR's strength is accessibility to gear, not its job traits.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-10 13:20:08
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Thanzo187 said: »
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Go chant some sutras and leave the damage to the real jobs.
Man monks are a real job and have been around for far longer than any other jobs you're just jelly cause we can kick

FACE-***-PALM

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By Ramuh.Krizz 2012-02-10 13:21:00
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This thread:
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-10 13:21:45
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
WAR's strength is accessibility to gear, not its job traits.

post was a joke but I hope you don't truly believe this is the case

outside of their access to Ukonvasara, Conqueror, and Bravura...
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By Thanzo187 2012-02-10 13:23:19
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Sylow did a monk molest you or something?
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-10 13:23:36
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Certain jobs are better at certain content, there is no need to nerf a job because it deals better damage on HNM mobs. DRG DNC BLU etc. are the more defensive DD jobs that have additional utility. You wouldn't take WAR over BLU into dynamis for obvious reasons.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-02-10 13:24:16
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It is. You're naive if you think otherwise.

Sure, those add to its overall effectiveness, but its primary strength is that it has the biggest variety of gear to choose from. Berserk is a close second.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-10 13:24:56
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LOL
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-02-10 13:26:24
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Apparently a lot of people didn't read the OP.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-10 13:27:03
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WARs main strengths are natively having berserk,double attack, and a variety of powerful WS.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2012-02-10 13:27:43
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This thread is silly.

If the mob has Souleater resistance, then it should have Critical Hit resistance too.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-10 13:28:27
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Ya seriously. you can have access to all the great armor, but without good traits or WS ur not going to be any good
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-10 13:29:05
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Diabolos.Raelia said: »
This thread is silly.

If the mob has Souleater resistance, then it should have Critical Hit resistance too.

but all mobs that have souleater resistance in the game dont have a crit hit resistance..
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-10 13:29:19
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
WARs main strengths are natively having berserk,double attack, and a variety of powerful WS.


But a natural 14% critical hit damage bonus, 15% DA, +25% attack, +25% weaponskill damage, +20% critical hit rate isn't ***! It's clearly access to equipment that most of the other "heavy DDs" can wear!

Fixed
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2012-02-10 13:30:57
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Diabolos.Raelia said: »
This thread is silly.

If the mob has Souleater resistance, then it should have Critical Hit resistance too.

but all mobs that have souleater resistance in the game dont have a crit hit resistance..

If you're going to arbitrarily gimp one job, you might as well arbitrarily gimp others too.

Souleater resistance is far less common than people think.
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-02-10 13:33:58
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#1 A good SAM
#2 A good WAR
#3 A good Rag DRK
#4 A good MNK
#5 A very good BLU.

Done. kthx!
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By Brolli 2012-02-10 13:35:31
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sam and drk is for emo 15 years old teens that watch anime all day and live their fantasy on ffxi lol
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-10 13:35:35
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I'm assuming you have some excellent data to back these claims up yes? oh wait
DRK is a lot better than most people think though, easily one of the top DD slots if you are benefiting from its superior ATK(Ig-alima for example).
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2012-02-10 13:36:44
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Apparently a lot of people didn't read the OP.

And... post Jump Recast Update. Ryunohige DRG hands-down for top :P
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-02-10 13:36:47
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this thread...

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By Leviathan.Zaknafien 2012-02-10 13:36:49
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WAR vs SAM. Who will win?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-10 13:37:10
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WAR > SAM > DRK > MNK >> BLU >>> Everything else, tbh. Inc shitstorm etc., however that's the hierarchy. The top 3 aren't a huge amount apart though so I don't see the need for debate on which one is better than the other.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-10 13:43:27
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Please back up this statement with math then. I have played with excellent sams and none have even come close to a good WAR or MNK. I'm quite new to DRK, but it is easily in the top 3, and likely top if benefiting from all the ATK. Was extremely surprised to see ragnarok DRK do so well at ig-alima. I'll get some parse data for WS averages and whatnot, but my LS has excellent DDs and my DRK came out on top among 12 kills. MNK usually beats anything that dies within the duration of impetus, you are delusional if you think SAM is the #2 DD at the moment.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-10 13:44:50
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Whatever you say. I'll rewrite my list:

WAR/SAM > WAR/WAR > WAR/DRK > WAR/MNK > WAR/NIN >>>> everything else
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