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 Phoenix.Uzugami
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-16 08:38:21
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Ifrit.Shagg said:

aren't all blu spells essentialy mob tp moves, i.e. mob WSs? would it follow that all blu spells count as WSs as far as this proc system goes?

They count as magic. Like they always have.
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By Bismarck.Aena 2011-05-16 11:09:34
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Next run we have, I'll request that one of the BLMs come on his BLU if he doesn't mind to also test out if it only procs magic. ^^
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-16 11:11:20
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Bismarck.Aena said:
Next run we have, I'll request that one of the BLMs come on his BLU if he doesn't mind to also test out if it only procs magic. ^^

It counts as Azure in abyssea. It's magic only. Our BLU has staggered Mage mobs with it; never a light or heavy DD job.
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By Bismarck.Aena 2011-05-16 11:16:24
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Nevermind - Expiacion, the BLU proc, is a sword weapon skill indeed @Shagg. <_> I glanced over the skill name blarg.
PUP may still be weird, though. We'll at least see what happens with it on a second try.
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By Bahamut.Aena 2011-05-16 11:21:57
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So far, we've found it easier to spam the JA-proc'd mobs. Did a Xarc run last night and ended up with 130 singles / 1x 100, as well as THF and RDM AF2s.

Also, HI OTHER AENA ('-';)
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By Bismarck.Aena 2011-05-16 11:35:39
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My only wonder is if we share the same pronunciation D:! Mine as "애나."
Edit* En-na, kind of cross between Enna and Anna
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-16 11:37:19
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Bahamut.Aena said:
So far, we've found it easier to spam the JA-proc'd mobs. Did a Xarc run last night and ended up with 130 singles / 1x 100, as well as THF and RDM AF2s.

Also, HI OTHER AENA ('-';)

What'd you get the 100 off of? And holy ***; I thought you were talking to yourself. @_@;;
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By Bahamut.Aena 2011-05-16 11:41:06
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We got the 100 off Duke Gomory I think.

I don't know how to write how I would pronounce it, most people just say {cat}.
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By Ifrit.Shagg 2011-05-16 13:45:02
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Bismarck.Aena said:
Nevermind - Expiacion, the BLU proc, is a sword weapon skill indeed @Shagg. <_> I glanced over the skill name blarg. PUP may still be weird, though. We'll at least see what happens with it on a second try.


/facepalm.... shows you how much i know about high lv blu. i seriously thought it was a move from wamouras, which is similar but different in spelling iirc.
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By Bismarck.Aena 2011-05-16 13:57:14
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Yeah, that's what I thought when I glanced at it, though at the same time, the move I'm thinking of is self-target. xD
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-17 03:31:18
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Anyone have any maps of NM pops thus far?
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By Sylph.Anariodin 2011-05-17 03:49:22
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i have 1 for xarc. making my own based on TE maps posted earlier. it takes time and effort. but combing through this and BG forums makes it a lil easier
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By Sylph.Anariodin 2011-05-17 03:59:20
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http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/104506-Neo-Dynamis-Changes/page16+
For those wishing to use an interesting NM map for Xarc
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By Ifrit.Shagg 2011-05-17 07:35:21
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just another random thought.... i was thf/nin the other day and kept trying to proc mage mobs with my /ninjitsu. i did get 1, but only 1, and that was after a bit of spamming. i notice the blm was hitting a lot with low nukes, even the drk wasn't doing bad with his spells. maybe your magic skill effects the %chance to proc with a spell? would explain why brds have such good luck, adding singing +wind/string skill, rdms have good luck w/ enfeebs, but blms and whms still haveing decent luck with enfeebs, blms doing even better w/ nukes, whms w/ divine (assuming its lved) etc. i don't have enough raw data to even call this a theory, but has anyone noticed any patterns along these lines? would make procing easier
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By Cerberus.Keeo 2011-05-17 10:05:52
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Quick question, sorry if its all ready been asked/answered and slightly off topic. Do you have to be in any sort of exp range to get the TE from the stats or can u send 1-2 people round to sneak invis get states while others farm.
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By Ragnarok.Tuvae 2011-05-17 10:19:36
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Cerberus.Keeo said:
Quick question, sorry if its all ready been asked/answered and slightly off topic. Do you have to be in any sort of exp range to get the TE from the stats or can u send 1-2 people round to sneak invis get states while others farm.
can just send people out to get them. You also get them even if your dead ^^
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By Carbuncle.Dominico 2011-05-17 10:19:39
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Cerberus.Keeo said:
Quick question, sorry if its all ready been asked/answered and slightly off topic. Do you have to be in any sort of exp range to get the TE from the stats or can u send 1-2 people round to sneak invis get states while others farm.

Don't have to be in range. When I go in my group usually splits up into pairs to each get a TE.
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By Cerberus.Keeo 2011-05-17 10:21:46
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That makes it easyer then
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By Crolion 2011-05-17 10:27:26
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big question is can u warp out and renter after TEs and even before just wondering mainly for job change purpose dont know if they changed that or not
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By Carbuncle.Dominico 2011-05-17 10:29:07
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Crolion said:
big question is can u warp out and renter after TEs and even before just wondering mainly for job change purpose dont know if they changed that or not

Can't enter again. Once you leave Dynamis (doesn't matter if you warp out or time out), you can't go back in until JP midnight.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-05-17 15:46:44
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Just entered Windy with NIN/DNC and BLM duo. Walked out with 54 coins. We'd of had more but we tried to help another group recover from a wipe and wiped ourself.

I know many people have confirmed job theory, but not sure if the debate on when procs occur was ended. It definitely seems like it is a percent chance of all your JA's/Spells. Anyone go in solo NIN/WAR and test provoke to see if it's 100%? (assuming 5/5 TEs) If NIN/WAR can proc every time it changes, if not then it's % chance.
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By Ragnarok.Ghishlain 2011-05-17 15:56:31
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Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Just entered Windy with NIN/DNC and BLM duo. Walked out with 54 coins. We'd of had more but we tried to help another group recover from a wipe and wiped ourself.

I know many people have confirmed job theory, but not sure if the debate on when procs occur was ended. It definitely seems like it is a percent chance of all your JA's/Spells. Anyone go in solo NIN/WAR and test provoke to see if it's 100%? (assuming 5/5 TEs) If NIN/WAR can proc every time it changes, if not then it's % chance.

I'm beginning to think the more TEs you have, the higher the chance to proc. Went WHM/WAR solo last night, Provoke was not 100%.

I'm personally beginning to think ANYTHING of the right category can proc, but there is a specific % chance to proc. So, for JA mobs, everyone spam, for Magic mobs, everyone spams magic (Dia comes to mind), etc etc...
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-17 15:57:44
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Just entered Windy with NIN/DNC and BLM duo. Walked out with 54 coins. We'd of had more but we tried to help another group recover from a wipe and wiped ourself.

I know many people have confirmed job theory, but not sure if the debate on when procs occur was ended. It definitely seems like it is a percent chance of all your JA's/Spells. Anyone go in solo NIN/WAR and test provoke to see if it's 100%? (assuming 5/5 TEs) If NIN/WAR can proc every time it changes, if not then it's % chance.

It's completely random from my exp thus far. We went to sandy last night got 200~ coins farming random mobs etc. I'd proc with voke on THF/WAR just spamming it and soloing mobs. My sister'd proc nearly everything on DNC with a random JA whenever. She had the most staggers in the group it's just random.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-05-17 16:23:29
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Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Just entered Windy with NIN/DNC and BLM duo. Walked out with 54 coins. We'd of had more but we tried to help another group recover from a wipe and wiped ourself.

I know many people have confirmed job theory, but not sure if the debate on when procs occur was ended. It definitely seems like it is a percent chance of all your JA's/Spells. Anyone go in solo NIN/WAR and test provoke to see if it's 100%? (assuming 5/5 TEs) If NIN/WAR can proc every time it changes, if not then it's % chance.

It's completely random from my exp thus far. We went to sandy last night got 200~ coins farming random mobs etc. I'd proc with voke on THF/WAR just spamming it and soloing mobs. My sister'd proc nearly everything on DNC with a random JA whenever. She had the most staggers in the group it's just random.

If by random you mean percent chance then yes that is my opinion too. Though it seems like some people have a better chance to proc. For instance I casted magic as NIN about 50-60 times throughout the run on mage mobs, and it proc'd once. The BLM got the rest of them. That being said, stagger rate on mage mobs seems lower.
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-17 16:26:12
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Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Just entered Windy with NIN/DNC and BLM duo. Walked out with 54 coins. We'd of had more but we tried to help another group recover from a wipe and wiped ourself.

I know many people have confirmed job theory, but not sure if the debate on when procs occur was ended. It definitely seems like it is a percent chance of all your JA's/Spells. Anyone go in solo NIN/WAR and test provoke to see if it's 100%? (assuming 5/5 TEs) If NIN/WAR can proc every time it changes, if not then it's % chance.

It's completely random from my exp thus far. We went to sandy last night got 200~ coins farming random mobs etc. I'd proc with voke on THF/WAR just spamming it and soloing mobs. My sister'd proc nearly everything on DNC with a random JA whenever. She had the most staggers in the group it's just random.

If by random you mean percent chance then yes that is my opinion too. Though it seems like some people have a better chance to proc. For instance I casted magic as NIN about 50-60 times throughout the run on mage mobs, and it proc'd once. The BLM got the rest of them. That being said, stagger rate on mage mobs seems lower.

I more ment random as in anything can proc. We sat there with SMN NM for like, 5minutes trying and it ended up being a spell we casted 6 times already. Same thing with NIN NM, was Provoke after 7 uses.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-05-17 16:44:10
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Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Sylph.Systematicchaos said:
Just entered Windy with NIN/DNC and BLM duo. Walked out with 54 coins. We'd of had more but we tried to help another group recover from a wipe and wiped ourself.

I know many people have confirmed job theory, but not sure if the debate on when procs occur was ended. It definitely seems like it is a percent chance of all your JA's/Spells. Anyone go in solo NIN/WAR and test provoke to see if it's 100%? (assuming 5/5 TEs) If NIN/WAR can proc every time it changes, if not then it's % chance.

It's completely random from my exp thus far. We went to sandy last night got 200~ coins farming random mobs etc. I'd proc with voke on THF/WAR just spamming it and soloing mobs. My sister'd proc nearly everything on DNC with a random JA whenever. She had the most staggers in the group it's just random.

If by random you mean percent chance then yes that is my opinion too. Though it seems like some people have a better chance to proc. For instance I casted magic as NIN about 50-60 times throughout the run on mage mobs, and it proc'd once. The BLM got the rest of them. That being said, stagger rate on mage mobs seems lower.

I more ment random as in anything can proc. We sat there with SMN NM for like, 5minutes trying and it ended up being a spell we casted 6 times already. Same thing with NIN NM, was Provoke after 7 uses.


So percent chance that anything (proper JA MA or WS type per mob) can proc.
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-17 16:46:23
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pretty much
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By Ifrit.Therealchibo 2011-05-17 19:20:31
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Has any BLM procced with Enmity douse.
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-05-17 19:23:24
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Ifrit.Therealchibo said:
Has any BLM procced with Enmity douse.
Yes. It's been used to proc.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-05-17 19:41:39
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Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Ifrit.Therealchibo said:
Has any BLM procced with Enmity douse.
Yes. It's been used to proc.

Confirmed by my BLM today also, he proc'd one with it. (NIN mob)
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