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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-04-27 11:14:04
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A 2nd lu shang... that would of been great time saver. Just didn't have that amount of gil back then lol
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-27 11:15:21
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
The topic at hand is a valid one, no disagreement there. People who claim that all you do is bot for it perhaps miss the fact that people use cure bots too. So to me the whole bot argument is silly.

Do I get something special for curing people? I don't use a bot to cure people and never have should I get a relic or something showing that I capped healing skill? /s
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 11:16:26
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Siren.Kalilla said:
A 2nd lu shang... that would of been great time saver. Just didn't have that amount of gil back then lol
Neither did I. I fished it up on mules that I lvld to lvl 20 because the day after I started SE made that update. Sadly it actually saved me time in the end lol
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By Kujata.Rhydia 2011-04-27 11:18:39
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
I actually fished up a 2nd lu shangs back when I did it because I got tired of using rings and on the very first fish it breaking basically wasting the charge and having to warp out to get them fixed and wait on boat again. Put a mule in rabao so I could stop running over there to get it fixed etc lol

Yeah, anyone saying Ebisu is easy to get has never attempted the quest. No way anyone is getting that rod in a week unlike some Empyrean Weapons currently.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-04-27 11:19:17
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
The topic at hand is a valid one, no disagreement there. People who claim that all you do is bot for it perhaps miss the fact that people use cure bots too. So to me the whole bot argument is silly.

Do I get something special for curing people? I don't use a bot to cure people and never have should I get a relic or something showing that I capped healing skill?

A. you can take any healing job, set refresh atmas, someone to follow at a distance, turn on a cure bot and get infina levels/crour

B. DD levelling bots are just as common and easy to get as cure bots, more so actually
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-27 11:19:21
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
The topic at hand is a valid one, no disagreement there. People who claim that all you do is bot for it perhaps miss the fact that people use cure bots too. So to me the whole bot argument is silly.

Do I get something special for curing people? I don't use a bot to cure people and never have should I get a relic or something showing that I capped healing skill?
If you use a cure/DD bot to 2/3/4/etc. box nms for drops doing emp. weapons then yes you do get something special.

If you use a cure bot to level jobs then yes you get points for that job's level.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-04-27 11:19:32
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
The topic at hand is a valid one, no disagreement there. People who claim that all you do is bot for it perhaps miss the fact that people use cure bots too. So to me the whole bot argument is silly.

Do I get something special for curing people? I don't use a bot to cure people and never have should I get a relic or something showing that I capped healing skill?
No, because your using a job SE gave to us all that can be leveled in 5 hours.

Why should anyone get an award for healing? Your just a bad whm if you cant.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-27 11:20:52
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lmao you people are ridiculous.. i was being sarcastic.. the fishing pole is just as stupid as giving someone a relic for capping healing skill.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 11:24:50
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
lmao you people are ridiculous.. i was being sarcastic.. the fishing pole is just as stupid as giving someone a relic for capping healing skill.
Not even close
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-27 11:26:10
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I was looking for a quick way to level up healing skill.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-27 11:26:13
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Level a job from 1-90 without a bot (leeching is ok) and get an ebisu without a bot. Tell me which is harder. Which do you get achievement points for?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-04-27 11:26:28
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Tweeek do you even fish? lol

How is spending years leveling fishing skill and months doing ebisu quest even related to healing someone.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-27 11:27:17
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
lmao you people are ridiculous.. i was being sarcastic.. the fishing pole is just as stupid as giving someone a relic for capping healing skill.
Not even close

Your healing skill is capped?


Siren.Kalilla said:
Tweeek do you even fish? lol

How is spending years leveling fishing skill and months doing ebisu quest even related to healing someone.


Years fishing? Sev how long did it take you to cap fishing skill? Did you start fish botting when you started fishing?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 11:29:27
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I was looking for a quick way to level up healing skill.
Go to abyssea empyreal paradox set a refresh atma on and use some kind of spellcast or curebot or windower maccros to just loop and bam. Took me less than day to get from whatever I was at which probably wasn't much higher than the 80 to 90
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By Unicorn.Leoheart 2011-04-27 11:30:40
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I was looking for a quick way to level up healing skill.
Go to abyssea empyreal paradox set a refresh atma on and use some kind of spellcast or curebot or windower maccros to just loop and bam. Took me less than day to get from whatever I was at which probably wasn't much higher than the 80 to 90

That's so genius :O
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By Kujata.Rhydia 2011-04-27 11:33:12
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Ok so let's say someone has the 78 skill necessary to get serpent rumors and decides to start the quest. They need 95,000 guild points which would take almost a month just to get those. Just to put things in perspective.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-27 11:33:29
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I was looking for a quick way to level up healing skill.

all joking aside, it used to take a long time not that I'm asking for a reward (I'm just trying to put into contrast how silly it is) or saying it was difficult but before the newish patch I went sometimes a month without a skill up even though I was full time mage. There was a plateau @ around 300 for some reason and Besieged no longer did anything.


That being said.. it became much better after the skilling patch.

If you have access to Shinryu, you zone in there get your refresh atmas and just cure bomb yourself. You won't time out, don't need TE.. It's the best way I know of to cap skill, I didn't do it just because of where my skill was when I got my Shinryu access.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 11:34:35
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
lmao you people are ridiculous.. i was being sarcastic.. the fishing pole is just as stupid as giving someone a relic for capping healing skill.
Not even close
Your healing skill is capped?
Yes it is. So is my enhancing btw. Not to mention you lvl it up while actually doing stuff in the game.

Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Siren.Kalilla said:
Tweeek do you even fish? lol How is spending years leveling fishing skill and months doing ebisu quest even related to healing someone.
Years fishing?

Sev how long did it take you to cap fishing skill? Did you start fish botting when you started fishing?
Fishing all day long on average netted me 1.5-2 lvls a day. And by all day I mean like 6-18 hours depending on the target fish and such. And that's with 2 lvl 100 fishing jobs. If you are lucky enough to get ring it's about double that but if you are hard core you should expect a good 2-3 months to get from 0-100.

In comparison I can get any job from 1-30 in a day and from 30-90. So basically lvl every job to 90 in the amount of time just to get fishing to 100. All magic skills that don't require casting on someone else can be capped in a day from 0. All offensive ones can be done in 1-2 days between abyssea and/or fortalices. And of course they carry between jobs so wont really take that much
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By Sylph.Chrisstreb 2011-04-27 11:37:14
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biggest Achievement for XI on the 360 iirc is a Level 100 Craft/Fishing, which is 50, Relic is only 40 (dunno if it even counts Mythic or Emp Weapons). TBH im surprised they hadn't increase the amount of Achievements earnable on XBL for XI with the add-ons and Abyssea Add-ons. Considering they do that for other games, and the last ones they added were for WoTG. I could possibly see them adding new ones by the time they add Level 99. Considering you can get 600 of the 1250 possible Achievement points on the 360 now via Lv.75 Jobs (30 points apiece) seems kinda a bit much
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-04-27 11:37:26
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Years fishing? Sev how long did it take you to cap fishing skill? Did you start fish botting when you started fishing?
The problem with you is you cant get the fact that people only bot when they fish out of your head. That is seriously incorrect and that is the problem with peoples perspective. Fishing is a testimonial of your resolve, not how much you bot.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 11:39:38
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Also damn caps on fish per day. Oh and I've found if your bot is too good and you catch too much too fast or something your fatigue will get maxed out after just a few fish or something.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-27 11:40:41
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
lmao you people are ridiculous.. i was being sarcastic.. the fishing pole is just as stupid as giving someone a relic for capping healing skill.
Not even close
Your healing skill is capped?
Yes it is. So is my enhancing btw. Not to mention you lvl it up while actually doing stuff in the game.

1, you're capped at a C-, bravo.
2, you even admitted you were only around 255ish before you were able to run some bot, macro loop or whatever with unlimited MP to cap your skill AFTER the skill update. People who didn't do that spent a lot more time than you did capping their skill.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-04-27 11:42:02
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also damn caps on fish per day. Oh and I've found if your bot is too good and you catch too much too fast or something your fatigue will get maxed out after just a few fish or something.
OMG, exactly! You can craft over 200 synths a day. You can't catch more than 200 fish (or 215 if you have to be exact). And with ebisu fish your looking at 15-30 for a normal fisher, and maybe 50-60 with a bot. Now take in account that you might have to turn in 200 each up to 1000+. People seriously don't consider the time someone puts in for this quest.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-27 11:42:56
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Siren.Kalilla said:

The problem with you is you cant get the fact that people only bot when they fish out of your head.

Yes people bot all over the game, handing out trivial awards to other people in other areas of the game would be just as pointless as it would be handing out an award for this. I'm against the awards all together you can't seem to get that out of your head you think I am only against fishing and fish bots even though I've made it clear in my other posts that the entire system is pointless and trivial.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-04-27 11:44:18
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Boting shouldn't even be in the equation! Hands down no exception, its against the TOS and shouldn't even be considered when your looking at a topic.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 11:45:43
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
lmao you people are ridiculous.. i was being sarcastic.. the fishing pole is just as stupid as giving someone a relic for capping healing skill.
Not even close
Your healing skill is capped?
Yes it is. So is my enhancing btw. Not to mention you lvl it up while actually doing stuff in the game.
1, you're capped at a C-, bravo.
2, you even admitted you were only around 255ish before you were able to run some bot, macro loop or whatever with unlimited MP to cap your skill AFTER the skill update. People who didn't do that spent a lot more time than you did capping their skill.
1. Who cares? I also have alot of other skills to cap and I'd go higher if I could it would take all of about another 4-5 hours at most. And that enhancing is B+ bro. And if I had another magic to lvl on a job high enough I'd show you just how fast it can be.

2. Actually I just use spellcast.

Well yeah I was higher. Turns out you lvl healing by doing something called... just playing your job. Last time I checked I don't get fishing skillups while getting sweet nm drops.

You know how I got to the 80 cap? Yeah right after I got to lvl 80 besides ya know just playing the job I would just cure myself a bit while waiting on people to get ready for salvage. Was capped in less than a week.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-27 11:45:52
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Siren.Kalilla said:
Boting shouldn't even be in the equation! Hands down no exception, its against the TOS and shouldn't even be considered when your looking at a topic.

It's difficult to ignore when such a large portion of the community openly speaks about fish botting and so much of the community has such intimate knowledge on the botting experience and process. Taking it out of the equation would mean you're ignoring a lot of information being presented to the community by the community.


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1. Who cares? I also have alot of other skills to cap and I'd go higher if I could it would take all of about another 4-5 hours at most. And that enhancing is B+ bro.

No one cares, no one cares it took a while for me to cap healing skill just like no one cares that you spent time turning in fish. That's the main point I'm trying to make.

As for the details about your healing skill I was just letting you know it was a little different it seemed between 78-? whatever the cap was when they did that skill update 85 or 90 healing skill ups were really rare for some dumb reason until they patched it.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-04-27 11:47:30
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What community? FFXIAH? What percentage of the FFXI community are even on these forums.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-04-27 11:48:35
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No.
Yes.
No.
Yes.
7 pages later...
No.
Yes.
No.
Yes.

And this is only talking about adding a fishing rod. Can you imagine how this will be if it were added and people start complaining about it and then demanding Maat's Cap and other stuff? This is going to cause the admins/mods a huge headache in the end. I'm pretty sure the last time this came up it was concluded as such.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 11:51:24
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Seriously tweek just try to get to 100 and get the gp body and KI for this. I bet you give up in less than a month and haven't even gotten to lvl 40 yet.
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