Boxer's Mantle VS Fugacity
Boxer's Mantle VS Fugacity
my instincts tell me Fugacity.. but im pretty much a noob!
It depends. Some people swear by Evasion Skill, some by Evasion. I lean towards the latter so I would say Fugacity. Unless you're really concerned about losing the Parry+ skill.
well i was kind of confused if while having +Evasion gear my evasion would still go up even if the Evasion Skill is capped >< im sure it sounds noob to anyone who is very familiar with the mechanics of this game but it seems logical to have assumed this to me.
I have no opinion one way or other on skill vs eva+ but if you equip your boxer's mantle your little blue capped eva skill number will go up 10 so boxer's is definatly worth equipping capped or not
1 evasion skill = 1 evasion, more or less.
Most recent tests I recall favor Evasion over skill, your evasion is "capped" when the enemy has a 20% hit rate, your skill being blue or not doesn't matter.
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I personally would favour boxer's over fugacity.
even tho fugacity have the better evasion it doesn't make up for the parry skill+ the boxer's also have.
even tho fugacity have the better evasion it doesn't make up for the parry skill+ the boxer's also have.
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Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
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The parrying skill has less than a noticeable impact, if you're going for evasion, go all the way.
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well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
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Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
I just got whooshed, right?
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Ramuh.Yarly said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
I just got whooshed, right?
Judging by his other threads, I wouldn't get your hopes up
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
ITT: Evasion skill allows you to evade TP moves where evasion+ does not.
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Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
lol wow...
Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
sure does!
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
So how much evasion skill do I need to reliably evade TP moves? This sounds like something we need to investigate!
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
Any links to some testing for the math on that?
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
Any links to some testing for the math on that?
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
Any links to some testing for the math on that?
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
Any links to some testing for the math on that?
Aww you quoted before my edit!
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Aww you quoted before my edit!
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
Any links to some testing for the math on that?
There hasn't been any conclusive tests showing how much parry/shield(shield being somewhat an exception, since it's proc rate is much higher)/guarding increase per skill level, or how it's relative to enemy Lv. It's that minimal of a gain.
Even vs too weak mobs you won't see a fantastic parry rate, capped or not. Bump that up to Even Match or higher and parries are few and far between, +10 skill isn't going to change that in any noticeable way, especially against enemies worth killing. 5% seems about right, enough to see it every so often, but not enough to be incredibly useful. It's nice when it happens, but I wouldn't forfeit +evasion in favor of +parrying if I wasn't already capped, and even then...
iirc +1 evasion is the same as +1 evasion skill AFTER your skill surpasses the mobs combat skill. Not 100% sure tho.
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1skill=1eva until skill reaches 200
afterward 1skill=.9eva
always round down
furthermore, evasion is always compared to a mob's accuracy and not a standalone value (including level adjustment, the single biggest factor in determining hitrate).
Depending on how you want to look at it, there is an evasion cap/hitrate floor of 80%/20%, respectfully. There is also an evasion floor/hitrate cap of 5%/95%, respectfully.
afterward 1skill=.9eva
always round down
furthermore, evasion is always compared to a mob's accuracy and not a standalone value (including level adjustment, the single biggest factor in determining hitrate).
Depending on how you want to look at it, there is an evasion cap/hitrate floor of 80%/20%, respectfully. There is also an evasion floor/hitrate cap of 5%/95%, respectfully.
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I prefer to use anything that makes my blue evasion cap number go up. Skill gear raises my cap whereas i dont see anything from my eva+ gear.
So get a boxers cause its simple as hell now and don't worry about the difference as it obviously isn't great enough to make on peice much greater then the other.
Plus, In a few months there will be a +20 Eva item that is gonna wipe these both off peoples radar.
Plus, In a few months there will be a +20 Eva item that is gonna wipe these both off peoples radar.
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