Boxer's Mantle VS Fugacity
Boxer's Mantle VS Fugacity
Larger question: Why do you need all this evasion for anyway?
Quetzalcoatl.Moonsshadow said:
Larger question: Why do you need all this evasion for anyway?
Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move
Bahamut.Alukat said:
evade tp-move
I thought it was obvious!
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Quetzalcoatl.Moonsshadow said:
Larger question: Why do you need all this evasion for anyway?
Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move and evasion+ doesn't though
Bahamut.Alukat said:
well, evasion skill adds some chance to evade tp-move
Bahamut.Alukat said:
evade tp-move
I thought it was obvious!
This
Anyway, what Yuna said is right. Parrying Skill doesn't matter. If you want to prove it to yourself, take all the Parrying gear you can get your hands on and parse your rate against a monster that does't give you Parrying skillups.
I did it against Mandragoras in the tree right after I capped Parrying skill for level 68 on Dancer. Parrying Skill +40 (boxer's, 2x knife, earring, torque) on a monster that wouldn't give me skillups, 5% Parrying rate. Parrying Skill +0 (none of those items), 5% Parrying rate. Warrior against high level Abyssea NMs, 5% Parrying rate. Unless you're planning to farm monsters 10-20 levels lower than yourself, skilling Parrying is a waste of time. If I had Level 90 Parrying skill with +40 against a level 90 monster, I'd still have a 5% Parrying rate.
I did it against Mandragoras in the tree right after I capped Parrying skill for level 68 on Dancer. Parrying Skill +40 (boxer's, 2x knife, earring, torque) on a monster that wouldn't give me skillups, 5% Parrying rate. Parrying Skill +0 (none of those items), 5% Parrying rate. Warrior against high level Abyssea NMs, 5% Parrying rate. Unless you're planning to farm monsters 10-20 levels lower than yourself, skilling Parrying is a waste of time. If I had Level 90 Parrying skill with +40 against a level 90 monster, I'd still have a 5% Parrying rate.
Lakshmi.Byrth said:
Anyway, what Yuna said is right. Parrying Skill doesn't matter. If you want to prove it to yourself, take all the Parrying gear you can get your hands on and parse your rate against a monster that does't give you Parrying skillups.
I did it against Mandragoras in the tree right after I capped Parrying skill for level 68 on Dancer. Parrying Skill +40 (boxer's, 2x knife, earring, torque) on a monster that wouldn't give me skillups, 5% Parrying rate. Parrying Skill +0 (none of those items), 5% Parrying rate. Warrior against high level Abyssea NMs, 5% Parrying rate. Unless you're planning to farm monsters 10-20 levels lower than yourself, skilling Parrying is a waste of time. If I had Level 90 Parrying skill with +40 against a level 90 monster, I'd still have a 5% Parrying rate.
I did it against Mandragoras in the tree right after I capped Parrying skill for level 68 on Dancer. Parrying Skill +40 (boxer's, 2x knife, earring, torque) on a monster that wouldn't give me skillups, 5% Parrying rate. Parrying Skill +0 (none of those items), 5% Parrying rate. Warrior against high level Abyssea NMs, 5% Parrying rate. Unless you're planning to farm monsters 10-20 levels lower than yourself, skilling Parrying is a waste of time. If I had Level 90 Parrying skill with +40 against a level 90 monster, I'd still have a 5% Parrying rate.
Just wish more people could understand this:P
Think that's a bit of an exegeration but I haven't seen the testing on parrying in forever.
I'm between 275 and 280 skill now (79-80 cap for DNC), if you want to pick a target for me to test against. =p
I still have all the Parrying Torque/knives/etc gear from when I wanted to skill up parrying. After I realized they weren't affecting Parrying rate, I realized there was no reason to *** parrying skill while skilling up... and then I realized there was no reason to skill it up at all.
I still have all the Parrying Torque/knives/etc gear from when I wanted to skill up parrying. After I realized they weren't affecting Parrying rate, I realized there was no reason to *** parrying skill while skilling up... and then I realized there was no reason to skill it up at all.
How exactly do you go about parsing it anyways? Just manually count forever? Since it only procs if evasion doesn't... anyways I'd say the T2 sea monk vnm would be decent. Hits kinda weakly easy to get dmg to 0 per hit and hundred fists alot so get alot of sample size fast. Got decent skillups on rdm on it last time I did that ^^
As far as why I say that is kinda exageration I last lvl'd parrying at 75 rdm on lvl 62-68 mobs... got from 70 to just under 200 in about an hour. The parry and therefore skillup rate really sucked at first but went way up at like 130ish or so. Granted I think I had like +30ish gear. But still it's a job with E skill way below the cap lol. Which means I had the skill of a lvl 50ish of an A skill
As far as why I say that is kinda exageration I last lvl'd parrying at 75 rdm on lvl 62-68 mobs... got from 70 to just under 200 in about an hour. The parry and therefore skillup rate really sucked at first but went way up at like 130ish or so. Granted I think I had like +30ish gear. But still it's a job with E skill way below the cap lol. Which means I had the skill of a lvl 50ish of an A skill
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Ramuh.Zaknafein said:
Boxer's is usable by all jobs which is nice. Has 2 useful thf stats to it also.. sounds like the winner to me. Even if you take the eva vs eva skill at face value the +10 parrying seems to put it over the top.
Any links to some testing for the math on that?
Unfortunately I play on Ps3 so can't see the results in that manner. If anyone knows of a link to some data tho I'd like to check it out.
Boxer's Mantle is still usefull...
when i played i used to macro it in for when casting shadows where i couldnt fit haste gear in <.<
when i played i used to macro it in for when casting shadows where i couldnt fit haste gear in <.<
I'm having trouble figuring out what you're saying, but I parse it by using a parser. Kparser has a passive defenses part of the Defenses tab, which includes Parrying rate.
Lakshmi.Byrth said:
I'm having trouble figuring out what you're saying, but I parse it by using a parser. Kparser has a passive defenses part of the Defenses tab, which includes Parrying rate.
Yeah, it factors Evasion out.
Hmmm haven't played with it for awhile... maybe I should download it again... and actually try lvling parrying again. God that's such a pain though
Not if you keep in mind how easy it is to have a hoard of mobs attacking you in Abyssea while capping -PDT and regening!
Odin.Sheelay said:
Not if you keep in mind how easy it is to have a hoard of mobs attacking you in Abyssea while capping -PDT and regening!
Hence why most my parrying skillups were done on rdm. Well that and I could do that stuff outside of abyssea at 75. And get people to call me a hacker while doing it :). Awww that was so epic I had to make a thread way back when
Hahah, I remember broken RDMs tanking ridiculous amounts of mandies in the tree back at 75. WAR wasn't too bad either after the introduction of Retaliation and /DNC
Retalition is more for offensive skillups... and is kinda rediculous for that lol. But yeah probably my favorite thread that I've made lol http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/5018/rdm-soloing-20-epdc-haxor/. Also I'm poor back then :(
Hah, i remember that thread now. Man i was laughing at the guy cursing at you on screen XD
A good thread indeed
A good thread indeed
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