PSN Is Down Due To Hackers

I wasn't trying to justify what Anon did. Like it I said before.. it was miss-targeted.

Geohotz.. got was was coming to him lol.

The only point I'm trying to make is that bricking people with the custom firmware wasn't the way to go.

Are you one of those people that thinks everything should be free or only cost like a $ and give the best and greatest service ever because you deserve everything?

another reason why XBL > PSN :)

derp

Nah, just a miss-understanding.

I have both and prefer PSN... plus XBL requires a $50 fee for 12 months of service... the same basic service is free on PSN... Also if you don't think this could happen to XBL you'd probably be wrong...

inb4 PSN is for free and stuff like that!


...seriously though, that's the ONLY thing I dislike on XBL. 60 USD / month is so costly for me!

Sorry! That was a typo, I meant to write year D: D: D:

Seriously, don't start this ***.. Not only on 360 do you get caught hacking/cracking your system and using illegal copies of games do you have to buy the whole new system, but you have to pay for the online service, yet again.

This subject does not put one console over the other, end of story, so take that fanboy ***elsewhere.

To Shade, when I pirate ***, I know the risks, so should everyone else. Everyone who has done it knows what could happen, so don't *** when you get caught, suck it up and take it like a man.

Anyone who has ever hacked/cracked an electronic and made that ***public, damn well knew what could happen but "oh it could never happen to me".. don't start whining when it does.

Sony, and anyone else has every right to take whatever steps are necessary to protect their assets. That doesn't mean I'm just going to stop being a pirate because some company doesn't want their ***stolen, nor does it mean they always choose the best way to go about it (LOLDRM) but they're well within their rights to do it.

If you hacked a system knowing the risks, but got away with it until they put out something that bricked said system, guess who's to blame.. It ain't the company.

Let me reiterate, every pirate knows the risks. That means you don't have the right to *** when those risks turn into realities.

stupid pirates don't.

Fixed, I think?
Not sure if that was your point ;3 sure as hell I agree with that though.

How about.. when your not pirating? When someone put in the firmware just to try and be creative with saaay like.. the Kinect or Move. Granted the Move sucks.. but I read they had made progress to get the Kinect to work on the PS3.

No lol that didn't fix it because that wasn't what i said lol.
smart people can make mistakes.
it's just stupid people take risks without weighing in what comes of those risks.
sooo yeah no fixie.
but it's all cool.
:D

^This...

I personally care more about the size of my cats turds then what someone does with there console, but really don't throw a *** fit because you got cought doing something you know you shouldn't be doing. It's like the people who try to steal our apples at my work then get mad when we tell them to put it back... Just fill out a butt hurt form and take some ammount of minimal responsability by owning up and deal with it.

Changes nothing I said, I mean I could go through all those ToS's everyone always just skips passed instead of reading, and point out exactly where you agreed to NOT do ***like that, but just suffice it to say, when you turned on that console and got passed it all to the main menu, you had already agreed to play by their rules so to speak.

When you throw that out the window, you throw out the window on their end of that as well.

The responsibility still lies with you, not them.

Yeah the ToS does speak of responsibility. Like a previous firmware that messed up around 50,000 consoles. Aaaand Sony would only fix them at a cost to the consumer. WHY?

ToS:

EXCEPT AS STATED IN THE FOREGOING SENTENCE, SCEA EXCLUDES ALL LIABILITY FOR ANY LOSS OF DATA, DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE, AND ANY OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE SUFFERED BY YOU OR ANY THIRD PARTY, WHETHER DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL AND HOWEVER ARISING, AS A RESULT OF ACCESSING OR DOWNLOADING ANY CONTENT TO YOUR PLAYSTATION 3 COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM...

Sooo if THEY *** up your PS3, guess what, its YOUR responsibility as well.

Ownership rights? Where? =\

You accepted the ToS?

Kinda have to if you wanna mess around online =P. HAD TO BUY PATAPON 2 =O!

I can't even remember if the accept screen pops up before you can even create a Console ID Name or after you first setup your PSN ID Handle.

Then I think you have to deal with it.

If you accept ToS, you can't turn around and complain when you get spanked for breaking it :/

Oh I wasn't banned or anything <_<

All this time.. I haven't been speaking for myself.

Only reason I would want to use the firmware is for emulators.. but I have all the roms I would ever need on my laptop xD

It shows up when the system is first activated. When you're configuring the date/time and the region and ***like that..

My entire point was, you (and everyone else) accepted the ToS. The ToS is nothing new, it's been developing over countless years, they are well written and nearly ironclad.

When you agreed to them, you absolved them of any responsibility, most notably in this situation of "consequential (cracking the software, and their response to said software that bricked systems) loss arising from 3rd party software".

I don't know if you personally went through this (but I'm betting you did) but no one who did has any case. You agreed to THEIR Terms of Service for use of the product. It was violated, there were consequences, suck it up, be a man, you are at fault for bricking your own system.

Nope =O Didn't go through it.

And again .. aside from cracking the software, even if it's their own *** up.. its your fault anyways.

Sure is ironclad xD

It still costs sony money to fix the network

what about PSN+ or whatever they were talking about last year? and of course with the fact that XB users are paying the $60/year for XBL gold, you would also think that money is used to police those trying to pirate/hack into systems. I'm not saying I'm a XB fanboy but you have to weigh in the 'added' security that you pay for with XBL.

another reason there needs to be made laws regulating companies and overbearing tos agreements, ***'s *** up. You bought the console, do what the *** you want with it, sony needs to *** off.

Yet another reason to let PS2 support die!