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 Bahamut.Lolserj
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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-03-21 18:12:21
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wow

and i thought ffxiah ran out of things to argue over
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-21 18:13:03
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Bahamut.Lolserj said:
wow

and i thought ffxiah ran out of things to argue over

As long as there are retards, there'll be arguments.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-21 18:13:10
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:

He looks infected by the Flood from Halo xD
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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-03-21 18:13:43
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
wow

and i thought ffxiah ran out of things to argue over

As long as there are retards, there'll be arguments.

im just surprised

out of all the things to argue over
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-21 18:13:55
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We actually had that artwork printed on the disks in the UK.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-21 18:15:15
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Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
wow

and i thought ffxiah ran out of things to argue over

As long as there are retards, there'll be arguments.

im just surprised

out of all the things to argue over

I love these kind of arguments. I get to look back and have a good laugh.

"Did we really have a 2 page argument on this ***'s hair color?"

I'm doing anything to pass time. You have no idea how bad I want Dissidia 012 tomorrow.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-03-21 18:16:39
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
We actually had that artwork printed on the disks in the UK.

That's why I always buy the FFs when they come out, they have cool artwork on the discs. Platinum discs are just shitty silver discs.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-03-21 18:17:48
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FFIX's final character designs were done by Toshiyuki Itahana, not Yoshitaka. Promotional artwork may have been done by Yoshitaka, as all FF's have had promotional artwork done by Yoshitaka, ala FFXI's logo, he was not the presiding authority over the designs, thereby negating the difference between Garnet in Yoshitaka's promotional work and the game itself. You may perceive a pattern, but two does not make a perceivable pattern, and more so, there are proofs that show it less than a coincidence.

I find it vastly pathetic that because people believe they are undoubtedly correct, they find they're able to mock people with a different view point. Your arrogance is stifling.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-21 18:18:53
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Cerberus.Tikal said:
I find it vastly pathetic that because people believe they are undoubtedly correct, they find they're able to mock people with a different view point. Your arrogance is stifling.

I read this in Garland's voice and lol'd too damn hard.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-21 18:20:05
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Cerberus.Tikal said:
FFIX's final character designs were done by Toshiyuki Itahana, not Yoshitaka. Promotional artwork may have been done by Yoshitaka, as all FF's have had promotional artwork done by Yoshitaka, ala FFXI's logo, he was not the presiding authority over the designs, thereby negating the difference between Garnet in Yoshitaka's promotional work and the game itself. You may perceive a pattern, but two does not make a perceivable pattern, and more so, there are proofs that show it less than a coincidence.

I find it vastly pathetic that because people believe they are undoubtedly correct, they find they're able to mock people with a different view point. Your arrogance is stifling.

Still.

In game > Concept.

Stop being a retard.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-21 18:20:09
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Cerberus.Tikal said:
I find it vastly pathetic that because people believe they are undoubtedly correct, they find they're able to mock people with a different view point. Your arrogance is stifling.

I read this in Garland's voice and lol'd too damn hard.

Goddammit, now I did it too.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-03-21 18:24:08
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Still what? Is that the only argument you have? "It was in the game, so it must be true!"

Wow, so that means FFX-2 is entirely canon! So is Ehrgeiz! ***, what else can I think of to bastardize the cannon further that was already in a game? Oh! I know, Cloud REALLY went into Ivalice when he fell into the Life stream, and traveled around with Ramza for years! Not sure how he ever got back though.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-03-21 18:25:56
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X-2 is canon >_> It's a direct sequel.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-21 18:27:16
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Cerberus.Tikal said:
Still what? Is that the only argument you have? "It was in the game, so it must be true!"

Wow, so that means FFX-2 is entirely canon! So is Ehrgeiz! ***, what else can I think of to bastardize the cannon further that was already in a game? Oh! I know, Cloud REALLY went into Ivalice when he fell into the Life stream, and traveled around with Ramza for years! Not sure how he ever got back though.

If you can't differentiate between FF7 Cloud and Tactics Cloud for instance, I think you're being awfully stubborn. Tactics Cloud is in there for a cameo appearance; there is no pretence of maintaining canon.
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-03-21 18:27:19
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Saying concept art is what's official is like saying: "We painted this house red. I had a concept of it being blue, so I'm gonna say this house is blue every time I see it, even though it is clearly red."
This should of ended the argument. ,_,
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-21 18:30:50
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Cerberus.Tikal said:
Still what? Is that the only argument you have? "It was in the game, so it must be true!"

Wow, so that means FFX-2 is entirely canon! So is Ehrgeiz! ***, what else can I think of to bastardize the cannon further that was already in a game? Oh! I know, Cloud REALLY went into Ivalice when he fell into the Life stream, and traveled around with Ramza for years! Not sure how he ever got back though.

X-2 is entirely canon, Ergheiz is not. Stop using the strawman fallacy.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-21 18:31:21
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Cerberus.Tikal said:
Still what? Is that the only argument you have? "It was in the game, so it must be true!"

Wow, so that means FFX-2 is entirely canon! So is Ehrgeiz! ***, what else can I think of to bastardize the cannon further that was already in a game? Oh! I know, Cloud REALLY went into Ivalice when he fell into the Life stream, and traveled around with Ramza for years! Not sure how he ever got back though.

If you can't differentiate between FF7 Cloud and Tactics Cloud for instance, I think you're being awfully stubborn. Tactics Cloud is in there for a cameo appearance; there is no pretence of maintaining canon.

Exactly.
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-03-21 18:31:24
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Cerberus.Tikal said:
Still what? Is that the only argument you have? "It was in the game, so it must be true!"

Wow, so that means FFX-2 is entirely canon! So is Ehrgeiz! ***, what else can I think of to bastardize the cannon further that was already in a game? Oh! I know, Cloud REALLY went into Ivalice when he fell into the Life stream, and traveled around with Ramza for years! Not sure how he ever got back though.

You're forgetting about Luso traveling with Ramza as well.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Soube 2011-03-21 18:36:13
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In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
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: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
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: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

That anyone would think concept art is even the finalized version of a monkey's *** is hilarious.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-03-21 18:38:36
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Totally canon.
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-03-21 18:38:38
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Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
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: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
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: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

Here.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-21 18:40:29
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Asura.Ashleh said:
Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
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: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
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: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

Here.

I got the same thing when I defined 'Ashleh'
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-03-21 18:41:33
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Ashleh said:
Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
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: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
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: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

Here.

I got the same thing when I defined 'Ashleh'

Umm. I don't think you know how to use google.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-21 18:41:45
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Leviathan.Niniann said:


Totally canon.

I'm playing this as we speak. It's so boring alone, but it passes time. I want Dissidiaaaaaaaaaaaa ; ;
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By Quetzalcoatl.Soube 2011-03-21 18:42:48
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Asura.Ashleh said:
Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
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: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
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: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

Here.

Oh noes, someone on the internet who doesn't like the truth has insulted me! What should I do?

*wrist* waahhhh!

Anyways, I think it's pretty common knowledge that games that have zero storyline and only bring characters together for the sake of smacking the crap out of each other are not exactly the best places to search for 'canon' material.
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By Phoenix.Ingraham 2011-03-21 18:44:13
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Final Fantasy is one of those series that just jams in as many cool ideas from other media as possible with no regard to coherency. Canon is probably the last thing on their mind.

It's better to leave things up to interpretation anyways, that only means you can milk out even more spin-offs.

Look at FFXI itself. Everything past Chains of Promathia are outside the original design documents. Wings of the Goddess was just an opportunity to finally use all that fluff they wrote up for the Tribunes.

Pic related, these were drawn up in 2002.

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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-03-21 18:44:51
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Asura.Ashleh said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Ashleh said:
Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
1
: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
2
: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

Here.

I got the same thing when I defined 'Ashleh'

Umm. I don't think you know how to use google.

you must have spelled it wrong
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By Asura.Ashleh 2011-03-21 18:45:50
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Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Asura.Ashleh said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Ashleh said:
Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
1
: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
2
: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

Here.

I got the same thing when I defined 'Ashleh'

Umm. I don't think you know how to use google.

you must have spelled it wrong

The link's there. Click it. I know you can do it.
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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-03-21 18:46:30
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Asura.Ashleh said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Asura.Ashleh said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Ashleh said:
Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
In case anyone is unclear on what concept art is :

Definition of CONCEPT
1
: something conceived in the mind : thought, notion
2
: an abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances

Straight from the pages of Merriam-Webster.

Here.

I got the same thing when I defined 'Ashleh'

Umm. I don't think you know how to use google.

you must have spelled it wrong

The link's there. Click it. I know you can do it.

you either spelled concept or ashleh wrong
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-21 18:46:36
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Phoenix.Ingraham said:
Final Fantasy is one of those series that just jams in as many cool ideas from other media as possible with no regard to coherency. Canon is probably the last thing on their mind.

It's better to leave things up to interpretation anyways, that only means you can milk out even more spin-offs.

Look at FFXI itself. Everything past Chains of Promathia are outside the original design documents. Wings of the Goddess was just an opportunity to finally use all that fluff they wrote up for the Tribunes.

Pic related, these were drawn up in 2002.


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