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FFXI's shortfalls
Phoenix.Amael
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Game: FFXI
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By Phoenix.Amael 2011-03-12 03:01:57
Bahamut.Stanflame said: My length of my Penis is about over 8 inches Pics or you're lying. :3
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-12 03:02:10
Leviathan.Niniann said: Asura.Vyre said: Oh wow, no more Eevees with scarves on Niniann, and was it Flion or Nightfyre; man, I always get them screwed up. Ah, either way the Eevees are gone, so I am now less confused.
@ OP, if you want to have fun, go make your own fun. If you truly ain't worried bout gear go do something like Salvage with a couple friends or even random schmucks. Do Einherjar with six. Beat ***up. Do whatever. There's no reason to just stand around and wait if you really don't want to. Not all things may lead to productivity, but many things can lead to fun.
Twas Nightfyre, Flion's the one who changes his avatar about once a day~
It's what I'm known for.
Asura.Vyre
Forum Moderator
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-03-12 03:03:11
Why thank you. I had such trouble keeping it straight. The only difference was the color of the scarves, and it drove me mad! Who is who? Ahhh, I'll just shoot both!
Unicorn.Marrs
Server: Unicorn
Game: FFXI
Posts: 359
By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-12 03:03:37
Sylph.Darkei said: hey marrs do no you have a date now?
ironic, you take more time responding here, when you can get seals for you monk ..oh but you no have time, right?
No dates @gf. Fact: You can play this game and forum at the same time. It isn't a problem of "time" i necessarily define, it was a point of competition, and only being one pop at a time. Like I said in the OP, the reason the game fails in this sense isn't because of the competition necessarily, just the fact that if there is, in reference to this same goal, no progress is being made, no progress = not playing = waiting = 0 game interaction.
This point is simple, competition sucks in a video game because no progress is being made, a process that took equally as long (even including the wait time) but always allowed progression to take place would be better, probably even give you a more rewarding feeling (think trials).
Leviathan.Niniann
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2596
By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-03-12 03:04:16
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Makes the prostitutes cry.
Then again it is like a hot dog down a stadium floor so,,
At least he can pay for love amirite?
Shiva.Flionheart said: It's what I'm known for.
:3
Bismarck.Strange
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 606
By Bismarck.Strange 2011-03-12 03:04:37
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Strange, you are just as bad. By the way edit that double quote. Marrs' walls of text are bad enough as it is with only one quote. all i see here is wah wah wah wah wah wah, ty charlie brown Don't you have a certain posters *** to be riding for multiple pages saying how terrible they are? you sound like the tard i made run from my server for calling him out on tardness Yo soy boricua. thanks for proving you are a tard
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-12 03:05:42
Oh and also:
You in a nutshell.
Phoenix.Amael
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 2982
By Phoenix.Amael 2011-03-12 03:05:56
Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Strange, you are just as bad. By the way edit that double quote. Marrs' walls of text are bad enough as it is with only one quote. all i see here is wah wah wah wah wah wah, ty charlie brown Don't you have a certain posters *** to be riding for multiple pages saying how terrible they are? you sound like the tard i made run from my server for calling him out on tardness Yo soy boricua. thanks for proving you are a tard O.o Your flag looks like from Germany
Edit: @ Spicy
Unicorn.Marrs
Server: Unicorn
Game: FFXI
Posts: 359
By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-12 03:06:20
Shiva.Flionheart said: Also there's good reasons you're insulted. You instigate and then cry about being called up on your ***.
Lol @ not emotionally invested then you go out of your way to make me a avatar. I'm sorry you couldn't hold a point?
By Artemicion 2011-03-12 03:06:32
All I gotta say is: the game is what you make of it.
If you approach it with a cynical and rotten attitude, the game will probably drag on and be miserably boring for you, yielding little to no results or fulfillment.
But if you truly enjoy the game for the substance therein and the company you play with, and feel at least some sense of connection with your alter-ego of a character, then be steadfast and keep playing til you get exactly what you want. If it weren't for adversity, the reward would be but bittersweet and unsatisfying.
TL;DR Keep your chin up, or just quit playing. Nobody wants to hear your bitching.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-12 03:07:31
Unicorn.Marrs said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Also there's good reasons you're insulted. You instigate and then cry about being called up on your ***.
Lol @ not emotionally invested then you go out of your way to make me a avatar. I'm sorry you couldn't hold a point?
I'm pretty sure I can hold a point and make an avatar. It's not hard to make avatars, it took me less than 30 seconds.
Does it bother you? Do you want to cry little man?
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Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-03-12 03:07:43
Lol, Flion's new avatar is hilarious. I can't stop laughing.
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Bismarck.Strange
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 606
By Bismarck.Strange 2011-03-12 03:08:13
Asura.Vyre said: Lol, Flion's new avatar is hilarious. I can't stop laughing. this
Unicorn.Marrs
Server: Unicorn
Game: FFXI
Posts: 359
By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-12 03:08:28
Shiva.Flionheart said: Oh and also:
You in a nutshell.
Obviously you can handle a video game forum ;-)
Seriously in the end, its about holding a point and just making a valid argument, when you can't, you act like you're acting.
Leviathan.Niniann
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2596
By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-03-12 03:10:11
I think Flion can handle a video game forum just fine~ In fact he makes foruming an art.
Bismarck.Strange
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 606
By Bismarck.Strange 2011-03-12 03:10:32
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Strange said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Strange, you are just as bad. By the way edit that double quote. Marrs' walls of text are bad enough as it is with only one quote. all i see here is wah wah wah wah wah wah, ty charlie brown Don't you have a certain posters *** to be riding for multiple pages saying how terrible they are? you sound like the tard i made run from my server for calling him out on tardness Yo soy boricua. thanks for proving you are a tard You are welcome. Would you like a cigarette? once again wah wah wah wah wah wah, silly child.
Carbuncle.Lynxblade
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1654
By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-03-12 03:10:48
hay guyz whats goin on?, im all bored lolz
Unicorn.Marrs
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 359
By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-12 03:11:21
Artemicion said: All I gotta say is: the game is what you make of it.
If you approach it with a cynical and rotten attitude, the game will probably drag on and be miserably boring for you, yielding little to no results or fulfillment.
But if you truly enjoy the game for the substance therein and the company you play with, and feel at least some sense of connection with your alter-ego of a character, then be steadfast and keep playing til you get exactly what you want. If it weren't for adversity, the reward would be but bittersweet and unsatisfying.
TL;DR Keep your chin up, or just quit playing. Nobody wants to hear your bitching.
You guys keep calling it bitching, which would be a valid point if I didn't have one. People are leaving, like you say, soon maybe there will be nothing to *** about. If you can't handle constructive criticism (my arguments have a point, I don't base any of them off emotion) then whos really acting like the *** here?
By Artemicion 2011-03-12 03:12:39
Unicorn.Marrs said: Artemicion said: All I gotta say is: the game is what you make of it.
If you approach it with a cynical and rotten attitude, the game will probably drag on and be miserably boring for you, yielding little to no results or fulfillment.
But if you truly enjoy the game for the substance therein and the company you play with, and feel at least some sense of connection with your alter-ego of a character, then be steadfast and keep playing til you get exactly what you want. If it weren't for adversity, the reward would be but bittersweet and unsatisfying.
TL;DR Keep your chin up, or just quit playing. Nobody wants to hear your bitching.
You guys keep calling it bitching, which would be a valid point if I didn't have one. People are leaving, like you say, soon maybe there will be nothing to *** about. If you can't handle constructive criticism (my arguments have a point, I don't base any of them off emotion) then whos really acting like the *** here?
Wat?
Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-03-12 03:12:57
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Asura.Vyre said: Lol, Flion's new avatar is hilarious. I can't stop laughing. Lmfao it is so great, but I am sure some mod will ride his ***about having fun. DON'T JOKE AT OTHERS EXPENSE! But that's the best way to have fun, Mod! I mean, c'mon, you have fun with your big *** avatar while telling me I can't post ***! Q,Q!
On the note of Avatars, I rather like yours too Spicy and Niniann's. I think she's had it before.
Carbuncle.Lynxblade
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-03-12 03:13:33
srsly guys whats going on, I dont feel like reading a bunch of quote trains, can someone paraphrase whats goin on prz?
By Artemicion 2011-03-12 03:13:35
Asura.Vyre said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Asura.Vyre said: Lol, Flion's new avatar is hilarious. I can't stop laughing. Lmfao it is so great, but I am sure some mod will ride his ***about having fun. DON'T JOKE AT OTHERS EXPENSE! But that's the best way to have fun, Mod! I mean, c'mon, you have fun with your big *** avatar while telling me I can't post ***! Q,Q!
On the note of Avatars, I rather like yours too Spicy and Niniann's. I think she's had it before.
I see you've met Alyria.
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Bismarck.Strange
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By Bismarck.Strange 2011-03-12 03:14:21
Mr.ryan seems you're losing that *** wittyness we seem to be used to.
Theres a few, of course, nothing is perfect.
Key notes: Interactive = Play = Fun.
Staring/waiting = X.
1) Wasting an incredible amount of peoples time. Its one thing for progress to be slow in game, its another when no progress goes on at all. For example trying to pop a tier2 (of course this isn't the only way to get seals, but in some cases its the only means in a practical sense, as other nm's may require more people than you can help to bring along with you) nm in the midst of competition. It would be one thing, say if SE decided to make it a requirement of 20 body seals to get af+1 to slow progress, but instead they choose to make one tier2 pop at a time. Meaning the group or person not getting the pop isn't getting to do really much of anything at all, and if he doesn't wait hey may miss his turn, or his chance, the video game ceases to be a video game that you're actually "playing" or being interactive with, as much as your just staring at a computer screen waiting for someone else to finish doing something. (There are quest to obtain seals, that can be done any time without delay, but the chance at the correct reward is incredibly slim, and a retarded repetitive quest does not = fun in any sense, especially when the reward vie an nm is so much greater, and so much funner (ie a battle) in respect to those quests.)
The distinction I'm making between slow progress in respect to not playing and slow progress vie just because the nature of the process taking long is a very important distinction. IE there is no "fun" in waiting, or in NOT playing as can be found in a process that would take equally as long but allows you to actually do something in respect to that goal.
2) Another example of just staring at the screen in ffxi as opposed to being interactive is lfp. Especially for certain jobs (and before 76), (brd whm), the video game turns into staring at a chat log waiting for purple letters to pop up that say (party?), it isn't till then that you're actually "playing". It wasn't for years till SE finally came up with /dnc, that helps in some cases, but this is still incredibly slow progress in comparison to group play and again can't really apply to all jobs.
3) Lack of reward or incentive for people to help you. Most things in ffxi require groups or parties (obviously). LS's usually require point systems or something to that like. Heroes of aby nms is the only example I can think of wherein this has been somewhat changed/helped by the implication of "trophies" in kills. I don't mind helping for example in respect to a Rani cause it gives me the chance to get an augmented body, but again, this is a rather new thing and is only found in heroes, quite pathetic. (One could also argue abyssitse and or atmas, but these are temp things, once done they're done, trophies on the other hand can relate to multiple jobs and require random augments that can take multiple times on each)
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