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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-01-10 16:54:53
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
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DRK would come top damage, Why? They have No crit WS's, No thing Unique about them, And They look cool.
yes we know your avatar would be near the bottom for dmg, no need to be bitter

Eh, PLD is my favorite job, i don't use it like... ever but i still like it. And acually i can Spam 3k Vorpals on it so it's not like it does terrible Damage all the time, but yeah people asking what job would be the strongest etc etc is kinda silly, especially since it depends on the player more than the job
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-01-10 16:55:31
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I'd put RDM just above BLM.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 16:55:44
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Lakshmi.Blacklion said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
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DRK would come top damage, Why? They have No crit WS's, No thing Unique about them, And They look cool.
yes we know your avatar would be near the bottom for dmg, no need to be bitter

Eh, PLD is my favorite job, i don't use it like... ever but i still like it. And acually i can Spam 3k Vorpals on it so it's not like it does terrible Damage all the time, but yeah people asking what job would be the strongest etc etc is kinda silly, especially since it depends on the player more than the job

Not quite. Pre abyssea, ***SAMs could crank out good dmg because Gekko was idiot proof.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 16:57:57
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
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I was going to make a similiar thread because I was curious.

If we had a lvl 98 crab generic IT and a full alliance of all jobs who was come out on top for damage after 6 hrs? Is any one job's new weaponskills blow away the rest outside abyssea? or balance wise are we back to normal?

too many variables. If the crab was on the MNK full time then probably the MNK due to DoT with counters and ***, otherwise WAR.

Outside of Abyssea, probably

SAM > WAR > MNK > ***DD

If you are referring to old content for "outside of Abyssea", BLU shits all over those DD jobs. Need proof? Get a good BLU and watch him work.

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If in abyssea, top dmg would probably go *not counting emps*:
War > Mnk > Nin > Thf > dnc > pup > Blu > Drg > Blm > Brd > Sam > Drk > Pld.

PUP DNC THF and NIN before BLU, what are you smoking.
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2011-01-10 16:58:04
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
I was going to make a similiar thread because I was curious.

If we had a lvl 98 crab generic IT and a full alliance of all jobs who was come out on top for damage after 6 hrs? Is any one job's new weaponskills blow away the rest outside abyssea? or balance wise are we back to normal?

If in abyssea, top dmg would probably go *not counting emps*:
War > Mnk > Nin > Thf > dnc > pup > Blu > Drg > Blm > Brd > Sam > Drk > Pld.
yeah I was counting everything possible, everyone has the best their job offers. you still think war -> monk?

Pure dmg, if their was no possible way of death because mages were godly and constant buffs, then yea war > mnk, but it would be quite the fight,
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:00:25
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
I was going to make a similiar thread because I was curious.

If we had a lvl 98 crab generic IT and a full alliance of all jobs who was come out on top for damage after 6 hrs? Is any one job's new weaponskills blow away the rest outside abyssea? or balance wise are we back to normal?

too many variables. If the crab was on the MNK full time then probably the MNK due to DoT with counters and ***, otherwise WAR.

Outside of Abyssea, probably

SAM > WAR > MNK > ***DD

If you are referring to old content for "outside of Abyssea", BLU shits all over those DD jobs. Need proof? Get a good BLU and watch him work.

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If in abyssea, top dmg would probably go *not counting emps*:
War > Mnk > Nin > Thf > dnc > pup > Blu > Drg > Blm > Brd > Sam > Drk > Pld.

PUP DNC THF and NIN before BLU, what are you smoking.

You're just a BLU fanboy.

Enjoy being a bandwagon job.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:01:19
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No I am just realistic. Also is this 2005? I have almost every job at 80+. While BLU is my main job, I also have access to all the others and still feel the same.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:02:39
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
No I am just realistic.

Prove it then.

There's a reason you're the only person who thinks BLU is the best DD in the game.

If not then link me to a thread with extensive math to prove your point.

I don't eyeball for evidence.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-01-10 17:02:48
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I think you're vastly underestimating DRG! 5hit OaT build with insane TP gain and the most powerful non-Empyrean WS which can even compete with Empyrean ones, almost permanent Angon... only thing it really lacks is red/blue flexibility.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-01-10 17:02:50
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As realistic as Phyrexius is sane.



(I do agree though that BLU is a great job)
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:03:50
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
I think you're vastly underestimating DRG! 5hit OaT build with insane TP gain and the most powerful non-Empyrean WS which can even compete with Empyrean ones, almost permanent Angon... only thing it really lacks is red/blue flexibility.

Raen, you've done math and know the math of XI a lot.

Was BLU the best DD @ 75 pre abyssea?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:04:37
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
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No I am just realistic.

Prove it then.

There's a reason you're the only person who thinks BLU is the best DD in the game.

If not then link me to a thread with extensive math to prove your point.

I don't eyeball for evidence.

Prove what? That BLU is a superior DD compared to almost all others on old content? Go bring a good blu to any event and watch them work like I said. Level correction did wonders for BLU dmg.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:05:06
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
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I think you're vastly underestimating DRG! 5hit OaT build with insane TP gain and the most powerful non-Empyrean WS which can even compete with Empyrean ones, almost permanent Angon... only thing it really lacks is red/blue flexibility.

Raen, you've done math and know the math of XI a lot.

Was BLU the best DD @ 75 pre abyssea?

Now its 75 and pre abyssea?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:05:24
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
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No I am just realistic.

Prove it then.

There's a reason you're the only person who thinks BLU is the best DD in the game.

If not then link me to a thread with extensive math to prove your point.

I don't eyeball for evidence.

Prove what? That BLU is a superior DD compared to almost all others on old content? Go bring a good blu to any event and watch them work like I said. Level correction did wonders for BLU dmg.

Like I said:

Eyeballing =/= Proof
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:06:03
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Okay then on that note where is YOUR proof?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:06:06
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
I think you're vastly underestimating DRG! 5hit OaT build with insane TP gain and the most powerful non-Empyrean WS which can even compete with Empyrean ones, almost permanent Angon... only thing it really lacks is red/blue flexibility.

Raen, you've done math and know the math of XI a lot.

Was BLU the best DD @ 75 pre abyssea?

Now its 75 and pre abyssea?

Fine then outside in general.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-01-10 17:06:14
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BLU's fairly hard to quantify and I admit I've never done anything formal on it, but if I had to make a decision I'd say it was probably between the 2handers and 1handers... Hasso in the Haste-buff dominated game (I mean Haste buffs still rule but we don't clamor for Bards etc as much anymore) was just way too much of a boost to compete with, especially given limited MP (given BLU DPS was never going to even approach a 2hander's).

Always open to being proven wrong though!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:06:20
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Okay then on that note where is YOUR proof?

Burden of proof is on you.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:06:35
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Yes outside at current level, 90, BLU is the best melee DD.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:07:10
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
BLU's fairly hard to quantify and I admit I've never done anything formal on it, but if I had to make a decision I'd say it was probably between the 2handers and 1handers... Hasso in the Haste-buff dominated game (I mean Haste buffs still rule but we don't clamor for Bards etc as much anymore) was just way too much of a boost to compete with, especially given limited MP (given BLU DPS was never going to even approach a 2hander's).

Always open to being proven wrong though!

Thanks :D You're Nice and can do math on XI, does not compute D:
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:07:59
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Yes outside at current level, 90, BLU is the best melee DD.

Got any proof there, sonny Jim?

I'm more than happy to agree with you if you can prove it to me, but excuse me if I don't take your word for it.
 
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:09:11
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Vanity Dive 1k~
Quad Contiuum 3k~
Dissv 1k~
H barrage 1k~
Delta Thrust 500-1k~
H barrage 1k~
f rip 500~
B typhoon 1k~
Gob rush 1k~

All of that in ~1m, please tell me which DD job can compare? This is speaking in terms of being buffed out the *** which is the scenario I am sure you will counter with.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:10:19
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Vanity Dive 1k~
Quad Contiuum 3k~
Dissv 1k~
H barrage 1k~
Delta Thrust 500-1k~
H barrage 1k~
f rip 500~
B typhoon 1k~
Gob rush 1k~

All of that in ~1m, please tell me which DD job can compare? This is speaking in terms of being buffed out the *** which is the scenario I am sure you will counter with.

Shiva.Flionheart said:


Got any proof there, sonny Jim?

I'm more than happy to agree with you if you can prove it to me, but excuse me if I don't take your word for it.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:10:19
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Double marches(if two bards or three, put on double ballad also), haste, refresh2, /rdm for convert etc.
 
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-10 17:10:51
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lol what you want me to take a SS of me doing that dmg to a mob outside of abyssea? What proof are you asking for, that is common dmg for a BLU and low balling too because they can be spiked much higher.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 17:11:49
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
lol what you want me to take a SS of me doing that dmg to a mob outside of abyssea? What proof are you asking for, that is common dmg for a BLU and low balling too because they can be spiked much higher.

Go for it.

Even better, record a video and parse yourself for a while.
 
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