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Charged Whisker
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17
By Asura.Darkestdream 2011-07-02 20:02:23
Ifrit.Herc said: I have blinding horn and lion...but not ultimate atm...so wht would be a respetcable atma? MM, beyond, baying moon, or RR?
I'm in the same predicament atma wise, and normally go between Baying Moon and Razed Ruin. I've been meaning to take note of the damage difference, but haven't really, so I'd love to know which would be the best choice!
Cerberus.Kaht
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-07-05 10:08:41
Asura.Darkestdream said: I'm in the same predicament atma wise, and normally go between Baying Moon and Razed Ruin. I've been meaning to take note of the damage difference, but haven't really, so I'd love to know which would be the best choice!
I wouldn't call this a predicament. Ultimate is not required for a good CW setup. As a matter of fact, I rarely use it anymore in favor of Minikin Monstrosity. Do I do less damage? Sure. Do I still kill all the mobs when I CW? Almost always. If not, it's not anything that a final whirl of rage won't clean up.
The reason I favor MM is because I don't have to bother with sifting through the boxes to find a restore chest to keep my MP up after each pull. Sure, I don't get big flashy epeen numbers that I'd get from using Ultimate, but I'm trading in the style points for efficiency.
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Cerberus.Sey
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By Cerberus.Sey 2011-07-06 16:25:56
Alot of changes have been made since my first post. I'm now hitting for 5.6K on my Charged Whisker.
This is my up to the minute gear. I know there some tweaks in there but it's the best I can do at the moment. I have spoken to that taru blu who's name is Lazybo and he can now reach 6K-7K damage.
Bismarck.Zagen
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By Bismarck.Zagen 2011-07-06 16:34:41
Cerberus.Sey said: Alot of changes have been made since my first post. I'm now hitting for 5.6K on my Charged Whisker.
This is my up to the minute gear. I know there some tweaks in there but it's the best I can do at the moment. I have spoken to that taru blu who's name is Lazybo and he can now reach 6K-7K damage. Do this quest: http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/An_Acrididaen_Anodyne
First time is a Jupiter's Ring sure its only +1 dex over your current set but the quest is fairly quick and easy to do :)
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Sylph.Kwate
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By Sylph.Kwate 2011-07-16 22:15:34
Any takes on Jupiter's staff vs. 2 INT/MAB swords? I been curious for a while.
Sylph.Krsone
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-07-16 22:17:44
Jupiters. MAB sword brew'd sanguine might be handy but ws dmg10% one would be better for that use too.
By Sakuhra 2011-07-19 10:36:05
mab trait and mab from /rdm dosnt stack right?
Cerberus.Saithorx
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By Cerberus.Saithorx 2011-07-19 10:48:58
correct
Bahamut.Dannyl
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2011-07-19 14:08:48
Lakshmi.Eyrhika said: If you are BA the Spear strap is wonderful, under BA it takes 2INT to equal the amount of damage 1 DEX will provide, so it would be like having a 6 INT grip.
How would "Magic Attack Bonus+" mix in with the math of all this.
I'm trying to decide if I should replace my rings with those Demon's Rings (so far the best augment I have on one of them is MagicAttack+2 with +1% critical)
I haven't tested it yet, but would it be wise to replace Raja's in this case?
New set: (got my +2 hands/feet recently :D)
Bismarck.Zagen
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By Bismarck.Zagen 2011-07-20 11:11:16
Bahamut.Dannyl said: How would "Magic Attack Bonus+" mix in with the math of all this. I don't know if this will be true for everyone but with my current build:
Loki is slightly better than my Mirke with MAB +4. In that situation 6 DEX > 4 MAB. Now I don't know if that applies to the ring slots or any other slot as I haven't played around with my gear options too much lately but hopefully it gives you an idea ^^.
Bahamut.Dannyl
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2011-07-20 11:25:49
Bismarck.Zagen said:
In that situation 6 DEX > 4 MAB.
Interesting. If this is mathematically (lol) true, then ring slots should always stay with the DEX+ mod.
By Sakuhra 2011-07-20 11:47:24
Bahamut.Dannyl said: Just another BA+CW set.
Using this one now:
I'm lacking a better grip (the +3 DEX is never on AH)
+2 Hands
+2 Feet
and Atma of Ultimate.. how much dmg+ would af feet+2 vs+1 be in that gear set (i dont have feet+2 yet) with mm, blinding horn and lion
+500dmg? less/more?
my dmg is much higher since i have af feet+1 so im wonder how good the +2 would be D:
Bahamut.Dannyl
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2011-07-20 11:56:38
I don't have test data to give you Sakuhra, also the Moon Phase can really alter my perception on my thinking as I don't always monitor its status. So you'll have to forgive me as I sometimes go off memory.
I believe i've seen an increase by 500-900 dmg for having both my hands/feet +2. I should really start to log some of the burns =0
Bismarck.Veruna
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By Bismarck.Veruna 2011-07-26 04:08:09
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, unless I completely missed it.. How would Mirke Wardecors with MAB and MAC augments compare to Loki's and Morrigans?
I have Loki's Kaftan, which I most likely will be using for this when I start, but may switch my Mirke augments if getting previously said stats would be more beneficial. I don't really have anyone to run Salvage with, so the Morrigan's Robe would be out of the question for me.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-26 04:09:36
Bismarck.Veruna said: I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, unless I completely missed it.. How would Mirke Wardecors with MAB and MAC augments compare to Loki's and Morrigans?
I have Loki's Kaftan, which I most likely will be using for this when I start, but may switch my Mirke augments if getting previously said stats would be more beneficial. I don't really have anyone to run Salvage with, so the Morrigan's Robe would be out of the question for me. Should be using burst affinity, so loki's would win. And teal saio would be better than the mirke by the way, save your augments.
Edit: Forgot the DEX on mirke, but still, save your augments.
Bismarck.Veruna
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By Bismarck.Veruna 2011-07-26 04:30:41
Mirke serves me no purpose anymore, that's why I was interested in this.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-26 04:33:04
Still a good fast cast piece. That's what I'd use it on before that if it was me. It'd only beat the teal barely without BA up and with BA loki's is the way to go. And most whisker burns BA is up before you finish pulling anyways.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-07-26 04:33:17
make an EVA+Fast Cast body, then. better than SH+1 for eva, and on par with maxed out mederi.
Cerberus.Sey
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By Cerberus.Sey 2011-07-27 10:59:20
Can someone post a spellcast rule for wearing Artemis' Medal while during moonphase 25%-100% and Kubira Beads 0%-24%?
I have a thought in mind by I'm sure it'll be fail.
Quetzalcoatl.Seveth
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2011-07-27 12:00:12
/clock
*check moon phase* *change xml accordingly* D:
All joking aside i'd like to see this as well. (if it's possible)
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-27 12:06:27
It's possible, and mine uses it for noetic and artemis'. One sec I'll copy paste.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-27 12:08:59
<if advanced='"%MoonPCT"<="75"'>
Just change the 75 to whatever you need it to be according to the wiki page for m.attack. I use it for m.acc, that's why mine is set like that.
Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos
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By Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos 2011-07-27 19:32:31
This is my current set
I know a lot of people say that Loki > Teal but from my recent experience that's not true, at least for me.
My set up is Dream Flower > Sound Blast > Evervation > Memento > BA > CW.
With Loki's on my CW was doing 5996 to surveyors in abby altep. Decided to switch to Teal to see if there was a big difference (expecting teal to do less) but Teal managed to do 6001 to beat out Loki by lol 5 points but still beat it nonetheless.
I also notice some people having Pixie earring instead of Moldavite, why is that? for me Moldavite does almost 100 more points of damage.
I remember reading that there are factors that that will make numbers vary among players but I didn't really get it.
Just thought I'd give my input. If I have time, I will try to switch some gears around to see what I get.
edit
atmas are Ultimate, Blinding Horn, and Lion
Cerberus.Sey
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By Cerberus.Sey 2011-07-28 09:07:57
Enervation wears fast so it's better to Sound Blast > Memento Mori > Envervation > BA > CW.
Also since Ascestic Tonic is better than Mori I marco....
/item "Ascestic Tonic" <me> <wait 1>
/ma "Memento Mori" <me>
This way I'll use a Tonic if I have and Mori if I don't.
If you have a SCH in party or a dualbox SCH I highly recommend Rairin Obi and Twilight Cape. Doing 7.3K on detectors and about 6.7Kish on other mobs.
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By Shiva.Jeffreyjelly 2011-07-28 09:28:54
upgraded some pieces since my last post.
Also, for pulling buy these feet ASAP! Lol
Sorry for the short post, I'm on my phone.
Lakshmi.Galith
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By Lakshmi.Galith 2011-08-04 04:20:43
Shiva.Jeffreyjelly said: upgraded some pieces since my last post.
Also, for pulling buy these feet ASAP! Lol
Sorry for the short post, I'm on my phone.
How often do those boots proc?
Also do you use whirl prior to sleeping? I just use a terra's when pulling since I've some bad experiences with aqua wearing if i whirl first.
That's what I've been using. I've forgone the Darksteel set mainly due to storage limitations and not needing them with the lion atma. If those boots proc once a 15 mob pull I'll take 10.
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By Phoenix.Endiirine 2011-08-04 07:12:46
I'd say the boots proc about once every 2-3 pulls for me. Obv, more you pull at a time = higher proc rate. They are nice, but I was a bit disappointed after camping that crappy ladybug for them.
I am flipping to sword and Whirling before Flower. My nuke set still needs some work though. No Lokis or Aias or Hecates.
Any thoughts or recommendations appreciated.
And for the record, on Xbox so can't do full gear swaps. I am firing 2 separate swap macros while mobs sleeping, so I know I am not fully optimizing.
Lakshmi.Eyrhika
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2011-08-04 07:23:24
If you have an Aias bonnet, thats really good fro the head, and its also a good piece all around for BLU. I would really recommend trying to get one if you can. Same goes for kaftan. I use that in both Vorpal Blade and Whisker farming. If you really want to fully optimize, you can get a Nifty Mantle for your back (+1 DEX), a Thiazi's belt for your waist(+2 DEX), and a Thunder Satchet for your ammo. I got my thunder satchet after I was done brewing a Rani, I had my group pull Cuijatender to me and killed him with Sanguine Blade. Quick and painless, no ??? needles got off (Which will kill you even if brewed, it can go up to 64k damage split among all targets IIRC).
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-08-04 07:40:16
Morrigans robe (int +8, mab +5) or loki's kaftan (DEX +11) for charged whisker under BA?
Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-08-04 07:42:48
nifty has the same dex as vigilance +1 i think, loki's is probably pretty close to teal for cw (but i agree, it's nice for other things).
So there's a taru BLU on my server that is hitting a group of detectors in Abyssea Altepa for 6K+ damage. He shots most of the group tho. However when I try it I can't get over 2.6K with my Charged Whisker. I can only use Beyond, Kirin & MM as my magic atmas so I don't know where I'm going wrong.
Here's my current Charged Whisker set
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