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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 12:51:45
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and it seems love torque isn't too bad for that honestly..it took 10 MAB in the neck slot to only beat your dmg by 100....crazy
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By Hades.Cheyne 2011-06-01 12:55:10
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My cw usually does anywhere from 5.4k-5.8k without set procs. I'll see what my consistent damage is when I'm actually home. My set isn't optimal yet either, missing af hands+2, morrigan's body.
I use blindinghorn/lion/ultimate.

But what I suggest is using Hecate's Cape for a back piece vs dex mantle. And maybe teal body(using until I get morrigans) vs loki.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 12:57:24
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didn't you guys say though, that lion only really gave the "thunder day/weather bonus"? Does that stack with the obi? and do you only do it when its thunderdays? Or does Lion also give thunder potency+? (Pretty sure I don't have that atma is why I ask lol)
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By Kerayu2 2011-06-01 19:19:14
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You're thinking of the other atma, Atma of the Lion is Thunder element attack Major.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-06-01 19:51:47
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Lakshmi.Galith said:
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
your numbers will probably be significantly lower without lightning atmas. blinding horn shouldn't be too hard to get, not sure about lion but i would guess the same.

If you swap any Atma, you'd want to swap Ultimate which contributes the least to your damage. Swapping it for MM you'd lose around 850 damage while using BA and swapping it for RR you'd lose around 500.

Here is a spreadsheet for the damage calculation that was posted by Tashan on BG. There is an error with the MAB section, A15 should read =C2/B4. If you copy it over to your own excel you can play around with it a bit.
i'm confused, what does this have to do with what i said?
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By Sylph.Bodhizapha 2011-06-04 07:41:43
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Bismarck.Helel Also, said:


i always use thermal pulse. since im in magical mode anyway from gear an atmas this spell does 2k+ per mob, and there is alot less gear swappage needed to make this pop.
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By Fenrir.Kaliyah 2011-06-04 23:25:13
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I use Atma of Lion, Atma of Blinding Horn, and Atma of the ultimate since time and time again it has proved to be most beneficial for my setup.

Without tonic and good Dom op/Resistance bonus I can easily do 5.7~5.9k, 6.1-6.6k with tonic and upwards of 9.6k with set proc. From the spreadsheet I have with CW equation if I take out Loki's +11 dex in exchange for 5mab 8int there isn't a huge difference. Projected dmg had a difference of ~7 in favor of Morrigan's robe. However, the additional 1mp/tic makes it nicer. Sadly I still need my 15 (easy) and 25 piece to finish it off.

However, if (and this is a big if) set-bonus activates Morrigan's becomes less beneficial to use over loki just because of how set-bonus affects spells (nearly 100 dmg difference in favor of loki). Though, I seriously doubt anyone will take possible e-penery over consistent dmg if given the choice.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-06-07 20:35:01
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Here's an SS from my latest CW burn.



Atmas: Lion, Blinding Horn, Ultimate.
Lightningsday, No weather/day gear, Waxing Gibbous (69%)
Ascetic's Tonic up, Enervation used.

And this is the exact Gear i used:


This is what the Demon's ring looked like:


**Edit**: Whenever i didnt have a tonic up/and or it wasnt lightningsday, i was pulling off a consistant 6k+ ALWAYS with just the normal Memento Mori/Enervation.
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By Asura.Maxwell 2011-06-07 21:13:52
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*Edited*


I was thinking along the lines of this. Granted obviously Atma of the Lion/Blinding Horn/Ultimate and the best demon's ring with Magic Attack Bonus you could get. I'm not sure what the proc rate for the augment of blue mage spells is but I'm sure that even if it's 10-30% full set that it still will make it worth it over time. I don't have all of this set but I think this would be near ideal. Thoughts?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-07 21:18:59
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indra staff can't be used by blu
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By Asura.Maxwell 2011-06-07 21:21:01
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Good call didn't catch that fixing.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2011-06-07 21:21:28
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Head youa re better off w/ Aias bonnet(BA up) or teal(BA down). Banking on the set bonus proc isn't that reliable.
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By Cerberus.Fiasko 2011-06-07 21:22:09
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Can't use indra's staff and I am not sure that the set will pay out in the end since you aren't spamming CW its just once and then waiting. You also should use a different belt for the same reason you don't really need the haste when you are one shoting the mobs.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2011-06-07 21:23:14
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Penitents or the 7 DEX sash for BA up is good for belt
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By Asura.Maxwell 2011-06-07 21:26:09
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Yeah can swap belt around I figured that was not the best option. 50% modifier for DEX/INT. Didn't know how the set would work out in the end if I was one shotting mobs it wouldn't be necessary but on the other-hand if not then having it there for recasts is nice. Not that it really matters much since Dream Flower keeps them slept for a nice amount of time.
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By Asura.Maxwell 2011-06-07 21:29:39
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Other thought has anyone confirmed if Magic Critical Hit factors in at all? Would defeat the purpose of a Wise strap even though there's really not much else that can be put there as of yet other than Lightning Grip which in Abyssea meh...
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2011-06-07 21:41:33
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If you are BA the Spear strap is wonderful, under BA it takes 2INT to equal the amount of damage 1 DEX will provide, so it would be like having a 6 INT grip.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-06-07 21:56:00
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Asura.Maxwell said:
*Edited*


I was thinking along the lines of this. Granted obviously Atma of the Lion/Blinding Horn/Ultimate and the best demon's ring with Magic Attack Bonus you could get. I'm not sure what the proc rate for the augment of blue mage spells is but I'm sure that even if it's 10-30% full set that it still will make it worth it over time. I don't have all of this set but I think this would be near ideal. Thoughts?

Proc rate is awful on set, around 5%. Get a better head, body, Belt (seriously df), and Ammo.
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By Fenrir.Kaliyah 2011-06-08 08:52:37
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Asura.Maxwell said:
*Edited*


I was thinking along the lines of this. Granted obviously Atma of the Lion/Blinding Horn/Ultimate and the best demon's ring with Magic Attack Bonus you could get. I'm not sure what the proc rate for the augment of blue mage spells is but I'm sure that even if it's 10-30% full set that it still will make it worth it over time. I don't have all of this set but I think this would be near ideal. Thoughts?

Like others have said, proc rate on set bonus is very very low percent. Over time you would do more damage putting in dex pieces such as Loki's and Aias bonnet, or Morrigans robe and Maats cap to get the most out of Charged whisker. Took me weeks of doing TE burns twice a week to even see a proc out of set bonus using hands/feet/legs in my set.
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By Shiva.Jeffreyjelly 2011-06-08 09:12:46
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My current set, needs some upgrades like ammo piece and hands. This usually gets the job done with a one hit kill with SoundBlast + Ascetic'sTonic/MementoMori + Enervation. (Lion|BlindingHorn|Ultimate)



Hope this helps anyone looking for alternate gear possibilities!
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-06-08 13:42:15
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Shiva.Jeffreyjelly said:
My current set, needs some upgrades like ammo piece and hands. This usually gets the job done with a one hit kill with SoundBlast + Ascetic'sTonic/MementoMori + Enervation. (Lion|BlindingHorn|Ultimate)



Hope this helps anyone looking for alternate gear possibilities!

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By Shiva.Jeffreyjelly 2011-06-08 16:05:48
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Shiva.Kollosis said:
I love you.
Lolll y u no plus wan my post?! Jk

Though I should let you know Enervation wears off too fast sometimes when using MementoMori after (MementoMori lasts 30 sec iirc). Try to stick with Soundblast > MementoMori > Enervation. MementoMori is basically the same as Ascetic'sTonic, but without magic accuracy. For all the new people also, don't forgot to equip AF3 feet before using BA D:!!! and don't change feet gear until the ability is used or you lose the bonus :(
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-08 16:07:50
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you'd be crazy to cast in other feet anyways..those things are beastly for magical dmg blu lol
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-06-08 20:22:23
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Shiva.Jeffreyjelly said:
Shiva.Kollosis said:
I love you.
Lolll y u no plus wan my post?! Jk

Though I should let you know Enervation wears off too fast sometimes when using MementoMori after (MementoMori lasts 30 sec iirc). Try to stick with Soundblast > MementoMori > Enervation. MementoMori is basically the same as Ascetic'sTonic, but without magic accuracy. For all the new people also, don't forgot to equip AF3 feet before using BA D:!!! and don't change feet gear until the ability is used or you lose the bonus :(

This is true but as long as youre not buffing like a grandpa you should be fine. I fit in memento > enervation > 1-2 fantods
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2011-06-09 00:33:16
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So why has no one been using Morgana's Cotehardie? It seems to do a lot better than Teal body imo. Finally got my hands on one today, camping ah for the past 2 weeks. >.>;
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-06-09 01:05:15
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Quetzalcoatl.Seveth said:
So why has no one been using Morgana's Cotehardie? It seems to do a lot better than Teal body imo. Finally got my hands on one today, camping ah for the past 2 weeks. >.>;

Because Loki's/Morrigan's is better
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-09 01:25:28
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(m.acc not being an issue)... really? that dex boost beats that mass MAB?
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-06-09 04:05:29
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
(m.acc not being an issue)... really? that dex boost beats that mass MAB?

The way i see it is, When gearing for CW you need to gear for DEX since you arent running a DEX atma.. or rather, you shouldnt be. There are some pieces that are obviously meant for MAB in said spot (novio, hecates). The atmas you use make up the MAB while your actual gear should be focused on DEX.

I don't mean to discourage the idea of trying it though, if you manage to produce some nice numbers while using the cotehardie please post an SS ^^
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2011-06-30 11:20:19
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Just another BA+CW set.

Using this one now:


I'm lacking a better grip (the +3 DEX is never on AH)
+2 Hands
+2 Feet
and Atma of Ultimate..


With Atma's of Lion/Blinding Horn/ and RR I was topping near 5200 damage from the Monitors in Abys-Grau. I haven't tested this on chigoe's and I was actually 1-shotting them before I got my Thundersoul ring and Hecates earring using the same atma's.
(I wonder if Atma of Beyond or the other Magic Attack+ atma's replacing RR would be better, haven't tested yet)
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By Ifrit.Herc 2011-07-02 14:12:27
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I have blinding horn and lion...but not ultimate atm...so wht would be a respetcable atma? MM, beyond, baying moon, or RR?
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