Vermeil Bhuj Vs Sumeru Steel Cyclone + 10%

His set is actually very nice. However, I wouldn't use Martial Bhuj for it. The DoT trade off is just too large to justify.

Also, +15 ATT is a fairly substantial damage increase for mobs like Dark Ixion. Including for Steel Cyclone, because its not quite as powerful as Tachi: Gekko as far as the attack boost is concerned.

I see that your war is 42 spicy, how is it you can give advice on a ws you don't have access to?

contrary to popular belief you don't have to level a job to do math

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So umm WAR/THF is no longer used on JoL?

Math is hard.
Given zerk you shouldn't need it to overcome JoL's defense (especially with reduced level correction), but it's been a while since I've played around with melee damage on JoL. If you're able to eat meat now that would help quite a bit. That is one case where I'd strongly consider SC.

"If you've never played foot ball a day in your life, how could you possibly know how to play!?"

You can watch other people (Via ESPN), and take notes.

A Footbal Coach didn't have to play foot ball to actually be a coach either.

And you ask how someone can give advice on something they've never actually done?

=P

But you wont know how it tastes!!!

Because Steel Cyclone sucks x_x

Except it doesn't.

Anywhere you'd use Great Katana over Polearm on Samurai, you'd use Steel Cyclone.

Anywhere you'd use Great Sword over Scythe on Dark Knight, you'd use Steel Cyclone.

Not true. WAR has ~50 more acc in a normal setup than a polearm SAM (regardless of food), therefore can get away with using RR/KJ on a lot more mobs that SAM can use polearm on.


This is closer to the truth and how often do you see a 'knowledgeable' person recommend a DRK uses GS? Virtually never...

Knowledgeable and those who assume everyone is buffed out the *** at all times are very different people.

I know... how dare they assume your mages cast dia, what elitist scum.

Dia II/III isn't going to drop DEF enough and you know damn well that's not what I'm talking about.

Also, if you only have 1 bard in the DD PT, they should be getting MarchX2. (unless you're not meleeing for TP for some reason...)

Minuets would be if you have a second BRD on the DD PT or BRD rotations etc.

Er, no. it provides much more consistent numbers, and will average higher than lucky damage spikes with either RR or KJ on mobs with rather large def and/or eva.

This is, of course, catering to the average (and majority!) player, and not the few people who find themselves in a party that looks like BRDx2 COR DNC DDx2 for each and every event/monster they do.

Ideal buff set for any DD party:

Double march
Haste Spell
Haste Samba
Chaos
SAM or WAR roll (situational)
(Double bards is actually less efficient, so no minuets for anyone... sorry)

Only 1 of those buffs affect your WS choice, and that's chaos roll, it is also the buff that does the least for your overall damage.

Dia III will actually do far more for your cratio that chaos will on any mob you are talking about. So yes I am talking about Dia II/III.

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Your crit rate will be floored to to hell. A WAR with the exact same gear and buffs using Steel Cyclone will tear the other WAR up.

I agree with your general sentiment, but crits just get 1 added to the cratio, not instantly max'ed.

This is correct, but they don't automatically hit that value. It's just the maximum pDIF they can reach. You'll see variations between min and max rolls and the possible values will also be reduced due to level correction against T+ targets.

I know this conversation has shifted all over the place, but regarding PLDs' abilities to tank and their "needing" SATA to cap their hate:

I don't really think as a PLD that it's necessary to have someone SATAing you to get hate off of a mob, the reason SATA helps so much is because thats ~1k DMG that ISN'T included in the DD's hate. It not only adds to the tank's hate (which isn't necessary, and is easily capped by a good PLD) but it detracts from the DD's hate, allowing him to do more WS before taking hate.

Also: those DD who think that they can easily co-tank a sky god, cerb, or DI or whatever just because they have seigan third eye, that's ridiculous. Wait till you get one-shadowed by TE and then have 28 seconds to get beat on while waiting for recast and you'll start regretting your rant on ffxiah about capping out your WS dmg and not subbing anything but SAM for HNM fights.

Remember: a dead DD deals 0dps. Manage your own hate, because once a PLD is capped out, there's not much (s)he can do to save you when TE doesn't last.

For those of you who want to bash: my WAR is 40, DRK80, PLD80, THF80.

Doesn't RR have an innate 10% critrate? 5% base, 4% merits, 10% innate, and given WAR gear you could fairly reasonably expect another 1-5% against even stronger targets, so you're looking at a minimum 20% crit rate. Doesn't seem that bad to me, all things considered.