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Yigit vs Sha'ir Manteel
Unicorn.Mordekai
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By Unicorn.Mordekai 2010-05-01 22:08:22
Siren.Enternius said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Mordekai said: Siren.Enternius said: You have to rank up to do Ryaaf, yes, but every assault mission (I repeat, EVERY mission) before Captain rank is doable with a DD Mage BRD trio. I used DRK/SAM or SAM/NIN for most of them, but Assaults are inherently easy. Even Nyzul is doable with just three (With some of the higher level bosses being difficult but still doable to a zerging Mkris DRK).
Quit talking out of your *** ***. You made it to Sergeant Major and your SAM and DRK are fail so I now you are lying. Some Assaults need more than 3 due to time constraints.
As for Nyzul BS, My zerg drk is good but still I wouldn't do higher floors with less than 5.
Btw:
Manteel is awesome, we give them out to our brds.
You're unnecessarily angry :o He spam checks my forum posts because he gets off on insulting me.
Just jealous I was a better PLD than him and PLD is his only good job.
^^ lol @ this. Reminds me of when he thought he was good at rng. Didn't you use Royal cloak on pld? Also pretty sure I'm just doing this to get laughs seeing as how my drk, pld, rdm, and even lolsmn are better than any job you have
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-01 22:19:44
Unicorn.Mordekai said: Siren.Enternius said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Mordekai said: Siren.Enternius said: You have to rank up to do Ryaaf, yes, but every assault mission (I repeat, EVERY mission) before Captain rank is doable with a DD Mage BRD trio. I used DRK/SAM or SAM/NIN for most of them, but Assaults are inherently easy. Even Nyzul is doable with just three (With some of the higher level bosses being difficult but still doable to a zerging Mkris DRK).
Quit talking out of your *** ***. You made it to Sergeant Major and your SAM and DRK are fail so I now you are lying. Some Assaults need more than 3 due to time constraints.
As for Nyzul BS, My zerg drk is good but still I wouldn't do higher floors with less than 5.
Btw:
Manteel is awesome, we give them out to our brds.
You're unnecessarily angry :o He spam checks my forum posts because he gets off on insulting me.
Just jealous I was a better PLD than him and PLD is his only good job.
^^ lol @ this. Reminds me of when he thought he was good at rng. Didn't you use Royal cloak on pld? Also pretty sure I'm just doing this to get laughs seeing as how my drk, pld, rdm, and even lolsmn are better than any job you have
You must have a tiny penis.
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By Siren.Mordekai 2010-05-01 22:28:30
Yea It's a chode.. looks like a can of tuna. I have a weird penis.
^^ I like to just read for ent's lies then call him out on it so he doesn't post anymore in that thread.. It happens a lot. This is a laugh we have from time to time in ls.
Tbh, When ent says anything it is a lie. Same way he said RDM should only have a mnd setup. Apparently his *** has never solo'd none the less low manned ***. I know his skill level and the level of all his friends. At most they could trio, ungur? lol.
Also Flionheart, Sup :) you look like a real straight shooter that couldnt tell the difference from a clit and a penis.
Manteel is better than yigit. If you are going to get yigit because of low gil, Thats fine, but stop posting scrubby ***like "it's over priced" Do some *** Bv2 and get it.
Chr +7 and the haste... plus 2 more % in casting... Don't ask stupid questions
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-05-01 22:31:59
Quote: Didn't you use Royal cloak on pld?
What's wrong with this, assuming correct usage and no Ares Cuirass?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-01 22:35:27
Dohohoho
I see, you are the "Alpha male" are you? You come off slightly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE here seeing as its a forum for final fantasy XI, but I'm sure the amount of E-pussy you score is phenomenal.
From what I've seen I'd prefer ent's 'Lies' than the verbal diarrhoea that simply spouts out of you.
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By Siren.Mordekai 2010-05-01 22:40:26
@Raen
Vermy is a good resting macro or a campaign idle. As an active tank, no....
@Failion w/e
Pretty sure I'm just telling you straight up. Either way, Enjoy the scrubbiness within. Nice pic, keep trolling the inter webs.. My glasses are a bit larger, I have a mullet and that cigarette needs to be replaced with a crack pipe. Get it right scrub.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-01 22:41:56
Siren.Mordekai said: @Raen
Vermy is a good resting macro or a campaign idle. As an active tank, no....
@Failion w/e
Pretty sure I'm just telling you straight up. Either way, Enjoy the scrubbiness within. Nice pic, keep trolling the inter webs.. My glasses are a bit larger, I have a mullet and that cigarette needs to be replaced with a crack pipe. Get it right scrub.
I think the statement still stands. You're a *** irl, so you project yourself as an alpha male on the internet @ great lollability to us all.
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By Siren.Mordekai 2010-05-01 22:46:20
well said^^ I should really get some level sync gear for my jobs.... Thanks Flion
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-01 22:50:16
Siren.Mordekai said: well said^^ I should really get some level sync gear for my jobs.... Thanks Flion
You sir, are a disgrace to the great country of Antarctica.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-05-01 22:53:45
What's wrong with Vermillion Cloak when you're either
a. /nin (shadows up), do not need TP; or
b. are kiting?
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By Siren.Mordekai 2010-05-01 23:40:37
Well I know you tried to exclude it, but you wouldn't tp well in it and if you are tanking /nin. You are almost always tping. Kiting wise I guess it would work but i kite in enmity or damage -
Ifrit.Jurai
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By Ifrit.Jurai 2010-05-01 23:56:57
I like my Ixion Cloak on brd :) I don't merit or anything though that needs super fastcasting of songs.. Have Yigit/Loq/Rostrum/rdm though for zerg rounds... that's plenty fast than spending millions for -2% more.
Ragnarok.Inga
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By Ragnarok.Inga 2010-05-02 04:42:10
Personally, I never gave two shits about bard, but I went and got a Sha'ir cause gil is pathetically easy to get on Ragnarok, the 7CHR help out a lot with sleeps if you merit a lot, prior to getting shadow coat, its 'okay' to use for debuffs, although Mahatma Houppelande / Kirin's Osode would be better because it has slightly more CHR, but you should really aim for about 120~125CHR then focus on M.acc/Sing/Wind skill for debuffs, which is easy to get with Sha'ir Manteel full time, the only real time it comes in handy to use something else is for HNMS but still.
also, 2% casting speed, helps out more then you could ever imagine, especially with rotations, if you can cap that out while /whm in events, your golden.
edit: also forgot, HASTE!
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Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-05-02 04:58:32
@ Mordekai: When not engaged, if no Ares, should be idling in either V/R Cloak or a Dmg Down body - depending on the mob's moves and your MP situation.
On topic though, I agree. Sha'ir > Yigit, there's no arguing the point. Is it ~3-4M better? That's up to the player. is Hauby+1 ~2-3M better than an nq? etc etc.
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Ragnarok.Roudidou
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By Ragnarok.Roudidou 2010-05-02 21:36:10
patheticly easy? O.o how you make your gil?
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By Ragnarok.Roudidou 2010-05-02 21:54:50
lol... dint notice it was you that posed inga :D
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By Sylph.Belmonth 2010-05-02 22:15:06
Shair is better hands down, if you can afford it go for it, I used to have one and the difference wasn't that big really, so I just sold it in the end and went for Minstrel's, since all shair is really good for is merit.
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Ragnarok.Roudidou
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By Ragnarok.Roudidou 2010-05-02 22:18:05
Sylph.Belmonth said: Shair is better hands down, if you can afford it go for it, I used to have one and the difference wasn't that big really, so I just sold it in the end and went for Minstrel's, since all shair is really good for is merit. k.. Minstrel it is :)
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-02 22:19:00
God, don't get me started on that Minstrel's coat NM >.>
Ramuh.Yarly
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2010-05-02 22:19:26
Why not just pick up a full set of Marduk and call it a day?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-02 22:21:53
Ramuh.Yarly said: Why not just pick up a full set of Marduk and call it a day?
Full time Full marduk on brd you say? >.>
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2010-05-02 22:22:30
BUT YOU FAST CASTER!!!!!!!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-02 22:23:31
Ramuh.Yarly said: BUT YOU FAST CASTER!!!!!!!
Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-02 22:26:21
Ragnarok.Roudidou said: Sylph.Belmonth said: Shair is better hands down, if you can afford it go for it, I used to have one and the difference wasn't that big really, so I just sold it in the end and went for Minstrel's, since all shair is really good for is merit. k.. Minstrel it is :)
so you only listen to the person who says that it's the best, and not worth it at the same time?
minstrel's good if it breaks a tier for songs. yigit is good if minstrel's won't break a tier. if you're filthy rich and feel like blowing several mil on a manteel, go for it. odds are you won't notice the difference between 10% and 12% casting time, but you will notice the difference between 0% and 10%.
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2010-05-02 22:27:07
I'm sure your brain is full of ***. After being *** in the brain, I'm sure anyone's brain would be full of it.
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By Sylph.Belmonth 2010-05-02 22:30:44
Ragnarok.Roudidou said: Sylph.Belmonth said: Shair is better hands down, if you can afford it go for it, I used to have one and the difference wasn't that big really, so I just sold it in the end and went for Minstrel's, since all shair is really good for is merit. k.. Minstrel it is :)
I meant Minstrel's ring and Yigit, sorry
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2010-05-02 22:32:51
1. get yigit body
2. get merits
3. ???
4. profit
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-02 22:36:03
Should farm the Minstrels coat anyway, it's a nice piece.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-02 22:40:21
Shiva.Flionheart said: Should farm the Minstrels coat anyway, it's a nice piece.
if it breaks a tier
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-02 22:41:06
Ramuh.Lorzy said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Should farm the Minstrels coat anyway, it's a nice piece.
if it breaks a tier
You should have it though, seeing as it could potentially break a tier.
I've been a lv 75 BRD for a while now and i was wondering what would be a better/quicker choice: Doing assault for Yigit body or farming for Sha'ir Manteel. (If there's any other body piece that i don't know about and that has stats near those two pieces, suggestions are welcome!).
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