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Trial of the Magians: Samurai
Midgardsormr.Frobeus
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-04-23 17:54:45
1% haste is always > 0% Haste.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:55:27
In before 4 str > 1 haste
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:56:20
She WS' in haste gear, apparently it makes the WS pull off faster
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:57:25
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader. Merit with better players? And if we're not talking meriting, your acc should be capped anyways because you should be eating pizza. In which case turban is still better.
Suck less?
Not everything requires pizza? If I can cap acc and use Yellow Curry, my choice is better.
Try again?
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By Siren.Mcclane 2010-04-23 17:58:18
Not a math guru, but wouldn't haste out do the little attack and str you'd get from Yellow Curry?
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-04-23 17:58:20
Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader. Merit with better players? And if we're not talking meriting, your acc should be capped anyways because you should be eating pizza. In which case turban is still better.
Suck less?
Not everything requires pizza? If I can cap acc and use Yellow Curry, my choice is better.
Try again?
Suck less?
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:58:37
Shiva.Flionheart said: She WS' in haste gear, apparently it makes the WS pull off faster
I have a penis. I WS in STR, thanks though.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:58:41
Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader. Merit with better players? And if we're not talking meriting, your acc should be capped anyways because you should be eating pizza. In which case turban is still better.
Suck less?
Not everything requires pizza? If I can cap acc and use Yellow Curry, my choice is better.
Try again? If you're capping acc, why are you using ace's?
maybe you should suck less
Try again?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:59:28
Caitsith.Linear said: Shiva.Flionheart said: She WS' in haste gear, apparently it makes the WS pull off faster
I have a penis. I WS in STR, thanks though.
Sorry, I made assumptions from your inability to maths.
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:01:21
31 Attack and 9 STR doesn't lose to 1 haste.
EDIT: Except in extremely high haste situations.
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:02:11
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader. Merit with better players? And if we're not talking meriting, your acc should be capped anyways because you should be eating pizza. In which case turban is still better.
Suck less?
Not everything requires pizza? If I can cap acc and use Yellow Curry, my choice is better.
Try again? If you're capping acc, why are you using ace's?
maybe you should suck less
Try again?
I do WITH Ace's. I'm not going to use Pizza to cover 7 ACC.
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-04-23 18:02:53
Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader. Merit with better players? And if we're not talking meriting, your acc should be capped anyways because you should be eating pizza. In which case turban is still better.
Suck less?
Not everything requires pizza? If I can cap acc and use Yellow Curry, my choice is better.
Try again? If you're capping acc, why are you using ace's?
maybe you should suck less
Try again?
I do WITH Ace's. I'm not going to use Pizza to cover 7 ACC.
Suck less?
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By Siren.Mcclane 2010-04-23 18:03:32
Caitsith.Linear said: 31 Attack and 9 STR doesn't lose to 1 haste.
EDIT: Excpet in high haste situations.
Well, you mentioned you'd be at capped acc. But yet you say you don't really get buffs or a bard. Where's all this Acc coming from?
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:03:46
So.. use Askar Manopolas over Dusk Gloves? I'd rather not.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:04:02
Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader. Merit with better players? And if we're not talking meriting, your acc should be capped anyways because you should be eating pizza. In which case turban is still better.
Suck less?
Not everything requires pizza? If I can cap acc and use Yellow Curry, my choice is better.
Try again? If you're capping acc, why are you using ace's?
maybe you should suck less
Try again?
I do WITH Ace's. I'm not going to use Pizza to cover 7 ACC. Now if you had your haub+1 and swapped out that shitty smart grenade, for a least a tiphia, maybe you could cap in turban, too?
In before "I'm exactly at the point where I need all 7 points of acc, but 4-5 wouldn't cover it, so ace's wins in this situation"
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By Hades.Amnesia 2010-04-23 18:04:19
Out of curiosity's sake, as haste does play a big difference that would mean that sarutobi kyahan is better than usukane sune-ate. this is of course providing accuracy is capped.
Shiva.Gylfie
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-04-23 18:05:24
Hades.Amnesia said: Out of curiosity's sake, as haste does play a big difference that would mean that sarutobi kyahan is better than usukane sune-ate. this is of course providing accuracy is capped. Store TP and attack would like to have a word with you
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:05:48
Hades.Amnesia said: Out of curiosity's sake, as haste does play a big difference that would mean that sarutobi kyahan is better than usukane sune-ate. this is of course providing accuracy is capped. If your acc is capped AND you don't need the stp, then yes, Fuma > usu
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By Hades.Amnesia 2010-04-23 18:06:09
yes im aware of 6hit builds, the only neglect would be 2% DA. atk does not mean that much.
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:06:19
Gear and merits for GKT. Again, I don't do stuff that TP feed is an issue, so they're not particularly powerful monsters.
I'll use Pizza for Tomoe, but my Polearm build isn't the best, so I still need Ace's for some fights.
Provided I'm on Samurai at all.
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-04-23 18:07:28
Hades.Amnesia said: Out of curiosity's sake, as haste does play a big difference that would mean that sarutobi kyahan is better than usukane sune-ate. this is of course providing accuracy is capped.
Usu feet allow you to use Dusk hands, so you're technically gaining 2-3% haste. Unless you have Usu body, in which case I refer you to Tiger/Veg
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:07:40
Caitsith.Linear said: Gear and merits for GKT. Again, I don't do stuff that TP feed is an issue, so they're not particularly powerful monsters.
I'll use Pizza for Tomoe, but my Polearm build isn't the best, so I still need Ace's for some fights.
Provided I'm on Samurai at all. This is where that better gear you don't believe in buying comes in. Upgrade and need for lulzaces goes away. Ace's is VERY situational, turban is better the majority of the time unless you're already capping haste.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:09:15
2-3 ACC is a 1-1.5% improvement. 4 STR and 3 ATT are an improvement too. At that point, they're probably even. I have Ace's, it looks cooler. If they're even, I'm going to use it. There's no reason not to when they're even.
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By Hades.Amnesia 2010-04-23 18:10:32
rose strap borealis.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:11:19
So what are you fighting that with polearm merits and pizza, you're still not capping acc? I'm curious. 4 str 3 attack are not going to ammount to much when you're looking at 30-40% DoT and 60-70% ws frequency.
Turban is better
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-04-23 18:11:44
Why do all your dream sets include *** helm? If your dream sets don't have capped acc, then they are pretty shitty dream sets :|
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By Hades.Amnesia 2010-04-23 18:13:16
i have aces helm but its mainly town gear for the obvious reasons. i still rock it sometimes as it has sentimental value to me as it used to be the king.
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-04-23 18:14:46
Hades.Amnesia said: i have aces helm but its mainly town gear for the obvious reasons. i still rock it sometimes as it has sentimental value to me as it used to be the king. Its pretty good for town gear, I mean it does look kinda cool but its in his dream TP sets.
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:14:46
EInharjar/Limbus mobs? I said my build wasn't the best. I know it needs improvements.
I've also never said I WASN'T going to make the upgrades like you all assumed. But the most cost effective ones are first.
I'm not dropping 1.8 mil into a zerg weapon or 3 mil into slightly better body armor when I've got other gear flaws.
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-04-23 18:15:32
Hades.Amnesia said: rose strap borealis.
I always forget about that thing.
644>645>646>647>648>649>650>651 (focus: NMs)
Radennotachi DMG:89 Delay:450
644>645>646>652>653>654 (10 krabkatoa shells)
Kurodachi DMG:68 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
644>645>646>652>653>655>656>657 (Simple monster killing)
Kurodachi DMG:40 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
658>659>660>661>662>663 (Fire weather kills, flan x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 STR+4 Attack+15
658>659>660>661>664>665 (Fire additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Weakens attack +10
658>659>666>667>668>669 (Wind weather kills, morbol x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 AGI+4 Evasion+15
658>659>666>667>670>671 (Wind additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Impairs evasion +10
658>659>672>673>674>675 (Thunder weather kills, qutrub x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 DEX+4 Accuracy+12
658>659>672>673>676>677 (Thunder additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers accuracy +10
658>659>678>679>680>681 (Light weather kills, aern x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 CHR+4 Magic Evasion +12
658>659>678>679>682>683 (Light additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic evasion +10
658>684>685>686>687>688 (Ice weather kills, worm x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 INT+4 Magic Attack Bonus +7
658>684>685>686>689>690 (Ice additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic attack +10
658>684>691>692>693>694 (Earth weather kills, sabotender x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 VIT+4 Physical damage taken -7%
658>684>691>692>695>696 (Earth additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Weakens defense +10
658>684>697>698>699>700 (Water weather kills, goobbue x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 MND+4 Magic Defense Bonus +7
658>684>697>698>701>702 (Water additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic defense +10
658>684>703>704>705>706 (Dark weather kills, ahriman x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 MP+50 Magic Accuracy +12
658>684>703>704>707>708 (Dark additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic accuracy +10
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what will be your choice and why?
The ones i like:
Radennotachi DMG:89 Delay:450
Straight up damage, seems decent especially for a meikyo gk
644>645>646>652>653>654 (10 krabkatoa shells)
Kurodachi DMG:68 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
sweet a higher damage multi-attack gk, however its only twice, instead of 2~3x such as soboro, hard to tell but i might just go for it, i happen to love this model of GK also
658>659>672>673>674>675 (Thunder weather kills, qutrub x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 DEX+4 Accuracy+12
i think this would be badass... dex and acc, totalling to 15 accuracy on a sword, i think it would be a very valid weapon for askar sams... i might just get one of these for hi-eva mobs.. but still omg.. the only downside is 81 damage :/
anyways list what you think would be cool/badass
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