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Trial of the Magians: Samurai
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:38:32
Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly signifigant improvement over Haub 1. Only relevant when you have the 35 feet. Other than that you can get haub+1 and sell it when you do have the mats for usu.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:39:09
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly signifigant improvement over Haub 1. Only relevant when you have the 35 feet. Other than that you can get haub 1 and sell it when you do have the mats for usu.
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-04-23 17:39:13
Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly signifigant improvement over Haub 1.
Items that require drops and AH items are not comparable.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:40:28
Sure they are, when you need AH mats for them.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:41:24
Caitsith.Linear said: Sure they are, when you need AH mats for them. Again, you could get a haub+1 and if you can't afford usu by the time you get the drops can sell it.
"zomg I may get usu to drop 1 day" doesn't justify not buying a haub+1, sorry.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:41:33
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly signifigant improvement over Haub 1. Only relevant when you have the 35 feet. Other than that you can get haub 1 and sell it when you do have the mats for usu.
Why would I do that? I lose gil in the exchange when I put it back on AH.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:42:42
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By Heavyblade504 2010-04-23 17:42:44
Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly significant improvement over Haub 1.
Edit: About as "significant" as most upgrades are in the game, anyway. Invalid. Different gear slot, stick to same slot. A more reasonable argument is Askar body vs. Haub+1 since both are using the same slot.
P.S. yes I know some of my gear is "garbage".
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-04-23 17:42:55
Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly signifigant improvement over Haub 1. Only relevant when you have the 35 feet. Other than that you can get haub 1 and sell it when you do have the mats for usu.
Why would I do that? I lose gil in the exchange when I put it back on AH.
Like what? 10k?
Stupid *** argument is stupid.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:43:21
Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly signifigant improvement over Haub 1. Only relevant when you have the 35 feet. Other than that you can get haub 1 and sell it when you do have the mats for usu.
Why would I do that? I lose gil in the exchange when I put it back on AH. Try harder, shout to sell, rolanmart (or w/e your place loses), ect.
You can be gimp, we don't care. Trying to justify it though on the other hand, sorry. Just admit you are and go from there.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:43:54
Gil is gil, doesn't matter what slot you're spending it on.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:44:47
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Caitsith.Linear said: Not when there other upgrades to be made.
Usukane Sune-Ate are.. uhh... 100k(?) coins and they're a fairly signifigant improvement over Haub 1. Only relevant when you have the 35 feet. Other than that you can get haub 1 and sell it when you do have the mats for usu.
Why would I do that? I lose gil in the exchange when I put it back on AH. Try harder, shout to sell, rolanmart (or w/e your place loses), ect.
You can be gimp, we don't care. Trying to justify it though on the other hand, sorry. Just admit you are and go from there.
That's what I do!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:45:11
ITT: Gimps try to justify their decisions. If you don't think it's worth it, fine. Does that make it a less gimp choice? No it does not.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:45:25
Trying to be gimp? No. But I can't stand farming, and I'm not going to kill Goobbues for a few weeks saving up gil for 2-3 acc, 2-3 att, 1 STR and 1 DEX.
Besides: I've got Soboro and I don't lowman, nor fight NMs where TP feed is an issue where I can't use Tomoe. Or DRG, which is my better geared job.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:46:16
(Psst; I think Final Fantasy XI isn't the game for you)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:46:42
Caitsith.Linear said: Trying to be gimp? No. But I can't stand farming, and I'm not going to kill Goobbues for a few weeks saving up gil for 2-3 acc, 2-3 att, 1 STR and 1 DEX. When did i say trying to be gimp. I'm just saying your trying to justify it. You can do what you want, that's fine, but "Minimal increase" as your reason plain doesn't cut it.
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-04-23 17:46:44
Caitsith.Linear said: Trying to be gimp? No. But I can't stand farming, and I'm not going to kill Goobbues for a few weeks saving up gil for 2-3 acc, 2-3 att, 1 STR and 1 DEX.
ITT: Goobbue are the only source of gil in FFXI
You heard it guyz
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:48:14
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said: Caitsith.Linear said: Trying to be gimp? No. But I can't stand farming, and I'm not going to kill Goobbues for a few weeks saving up gil for 2-3 acc, 2-3 att, 1 STR and 1 DEX.
ITT: Goobbue are the only source of gil in FFXI
You heard it guyz
Did I say that? I don't think I did, but I don't have a magic seal tree in my mog house either.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:48:51
Also, why are you using ace's?
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:49:35
Because I'm not being hasted up the *** like you constantly are.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:50:05
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:50:35
Caitsith.Linear said: Because I'm not being hasted up the *** like you constantly are. Suck less?
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-04-23 17:50:54
Caitsith.Linear said: Because I'm not being hasted up the *** like you constantly are.
ITT: If you don't get hasted "up the ***" then you should wear even less haste.
You heard it here guyz.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:51:13
I can't force people to level bard.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:51:50
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said: Caitsith.Linear said: Because I'm not being hasted up the *** like you constantly are.
ITT: If you don't get hasted "up the ***" then you should wear even less haste.
You heard it here guyz.
You need like.. 34% haste from magic for it to win. Or was it 33?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:52:07
Caitsith.Linear said: I can't force people to level bard. There are plenty of people who already have bard leveled.
Suck less?
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 17:53:01
How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader.
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-04-23 17:53:38
The word 'spastic' comes to mind.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 17:53:47
Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader.
They probably put you in the derp party after /check.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 17:53:55
Caitsith.Linear said: How does not having a bard put in my party involve my incompetence? I'm not the LS leader. Merit with better players? And if we're not talking meriting, your acc should be capped anyways because you should be eating pizza. In which case turban is still better.
Suck less?
644>645>646>647>648>649>650>651 (focus: NMs)
Radennotachi DMG:89 Delay:450
644>645>646>652>653>654 (10 krabkatoa shells)
Kurodachi DMG:68 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
644>645>646>652>653>655>656>657 (Simple monster killing)
Kurodachi DMG:40 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
658>659>660>661>662>663 (Fire weather kills, flan x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 STR+4 Attack+15
658>659>660>661>664>665 (Fire additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Weakens attack +10
658>659>666>667>668>669 (Wind weather kills, morbol x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 AGI+4 Evasion+15
658>659>666>667>670>671 (Wind additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Impairs evasion +10
658>659>672>673>674>675 (Thunder weather kills, qutrub x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 DEX+4 Accuracy+12
658>659>672>673>676>677 (Thunder additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers accuracy +10
658>659>678>679>680>681 (Light weather kills, aern x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 CHR+4 Magic Evasion +12
658>659>678>679>682>683 (Light additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic evasion +10
658>684>685>686>687>688 (Ice weather kills, worm x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 INT+4 Magic Attack Bonus +7
658>684>685>686>689>690 (Ice additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic attack +10
658>684>691>692>693>694 (Earth weather kills, sabotender x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 VIT+4 Physical damage taken -7%
658>684>691>692>695>696 (Earth additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Weakens defense +10
658>684>697>698>699>700 (Water weather kills, goobbue x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 MND+4 Magic Defense Bonus +7
658>684>697>698>701>702 (Water additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic defense +10
658>684>703>704>705>706 (Dark weather kills, ahriman x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 MP+50 Magic Accuracy +12
658>684>703>704>707>708 (Dark additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic accuracy +10
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what will be your choice and why?
The ones i like:
Radennotachi DMG:89 Delay:450
Straight up damage, seems decent especially for a meikyo gk
644>645>646>652>653>654 (10 krabkatoa shells)
Kurodachi DMG:68 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
sweet a higher damage multi-attack gk, however its only twice, instead of 2~3x such as soboro, hard to tell but i might just go for it, i happen to love this model of GK also
658>659>672>673>674>675 (Thunder weather kills, qutrub x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 DEX+4 Accuracy+12
i think this would be badass... dex and acc, totalling to 15 accuracy on a sword, i think it would be a very valid weapon for askar sams... i might just get one of these for hi-eva mobs.. but still omg.. the only downside is 81 damage :/
anyways list what you think would be cool/badass
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