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Question about Thf
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-14 06:45:36
Fairy.Darkei said: THF is "God" in campaing if you know how use.
and 2~4k xp/battle/half hour Oh yeah I cap xp everytime on thf/dnc.
But on blu/dnc I overcap... by alot usually. And since I'm interested in notes and got tired of people pulling the mobs off of me... and it seems campaign has gotten popular again I'm doing blu. People tend not to take hate from my blu lol
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By Fairy.Darkei 2010-03-14 09:03:36
Ramuh.Tousou said:
Would a sam with noob gear be accepted into a party just because they`re a sam? i doubt it
sad answer: yes.
@true history: 2 month ago a guy make a ISNM jade sepulcher, 5/6 and need 1 DD, he say
(Leader) "lol a thf ask me, wtf lol lol"
(Darkei) who?
(Leader) name (I don't remember)
(the thf who say have mandau, X's, full hecatomb/homam)
(leader) ok, i got a sam 6/6
/examine sam
lolsam, w/o 6hits and nuevo: evasion+10 double attack
maybe the leader no know this, but "laugh and mock" because is a thf and no a SAM is a little....disgusting
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By Pandemonium.Liquidz 2010-03-14 09:18:17
Fairy.Darkei said: Ramuh.Tousou said:
Would a sam with noob gear be accepted into a party just because they`re a sam? i doubt it
sad answer: yes.
@true history: 2 month ago a guy make a ISNM jade sepulcher, 5/6 and need 1 DD, he say
(Leader) "lol a thf ask me, wtf lol lol"
(Darkei) who?
(Leader) name (I don't remember)
(the thf who say have mandau, X's, full hecatomb/homam)
(leader) ok, i got a sam 6/6
/examine sam
lolsam, w/o 6hits and nuevo: evasion 10 double attack
maybe the leader no know this, but "laugh and mock" because is a thf and no a SAM is a little....disgusting
That's exactly what I was talking about, happens all the freaking time.
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2010-03-14 09:31:52
Like any job, THF is capable of good DMG with proper gear swaps and playstyle.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2010-03-14 09:33:42
THF isn`t just a TH ***, its a DD in its own right, can get TP faster than a GA war and if geard properly can match them if not beat them for ws dmg.
Just because Sam`s can get tp on demand doesnt make then any better than anyone else.
Anyone and their gran can play sam, doesnt mean your any good at it.
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2010-03-14 09:36:40
Asura.Calatilla said: Anyone and their gran can play sam, doesnt mean your any good at it.
Anyone and their gran can play any job and be just as terrible.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-14 09:43:28
Cerberus.Watanabie said: Asura.Calatilla said: Anyone and their gran can play sam, doesnt mean your any good at it. Anyone and their gran can play any job and be just as terrible. True but people care less when sam does and do things that enable them to continue playing bad. Alot of other jobs you play bad have bad gear and people will just be like GTFO!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-14 09:51:20
Quote: can get TP faster than a GA war lol, maybe if they're riding seigan.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 09:53:58
My THF always raped. That said, I carry around SO MUCH gear for the thing... miss that job so much :(!
EDIT: What if the THF is using a KC with capped acc, huh Veg?! WHAT NOW?!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-14 09:55:37
Then you should get a new thf, lool
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-14 09:56:06
For a few seconds there I was like... "Wait, I didn't say that, did I?"
In response to Calatilla:
I've met plenty of people who say, and I quote, "THF isn't a DD, go switch to something more useful."
And you're correct, every DD has to invest in their gear... The amount invested has a tendency to differ, though. 6-Hit SAM is incredibly easy to get, Hasso's delay-reduction, ACC, and STR Bonus vs what? Headlong Belt/V-Belt(Speaking in a sense of new player without R/E gear)? Without all the extra ***, THF isn't going to be coming close. I stand by not recommending it to newer players.
I have no doubt that a THF can DD, which is why I put quotes around the phrases. I've actually merited with a THF with the "Best of the Best" gear. Even so, I would still invite a Samurai, Dragoon, Warrior, Dancer, Ranger, etc etc before inviting a Thief to DD. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Unless of course, there were "extenuating" circumstances. ie: Being with friends, the THF was pimp, or not finding anyone else.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 09:56:20
Won't argue with that!
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-03-14 09:57:18
Asura.Calatilla said: Anyone and their gran can play sam, doesnt mean your any good at it.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 09:57:55
Well, I adore my THF but I don't have any illusions about my DD capabilities. It shouldn't beat any 2handers but it can come close depending on situation. Ranger it should be able to beat if Haste buffs are high enough (unless said RNG is KC, in which case good luck)... and Dancer I hope you mean for the buffs rather than the DD. In fact, often it would be better to invite a DNC over any other DD...
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-14 10:01:46
Bahamut.Raenryong said: and Dancer I hope you mean for the buffs rather than the DD. In fact, often it would be better to invite a DNC over any other DD...
If that was to me, it was more toward general usefulness, as opposed to straight DD capabilities.
Edit: The list, that is...
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 10:05:13
Oh yeah, in high haste situations a DNC > any other DD. I didn't mean that sentence to sound as contemptuous as it did :p
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-14 10:10:36
Oh Raen, you're just intimidated by Lugia's badassery :3
Anywho, have fun arguing about DD THF! Absolutely love when threads veer off to something wonderful!
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 10:12:50
Quote: Oh Raen, you're just intimidated by Lugia's badassery :3
He was a complete monster in Crystal :(
Quote: Absolutely love when threads veer off to something wonderful!
Do they ever not?!
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2010-03-14 10:14:37
We aren't arguing, we're conversing there is a small difference.
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-14 10:16:50
Cerberus.Watanabie said: We aren't arguing, we're conversing there is a small difference. Quote: Argue: To debate, disagree, or discuss opposing or differing viewpoints
See ya'll later.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2010-03-14 10:20:43
Fairy.Vegetto said: Quote: can get TP faster than a GA war lol, maybe if they're riding seigan.
your assuming war/sam, meaning the war needs /sam to be to be of any use
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-14 10:22:47
rly shoots down your claim though.
Yes, I can get tp faster than a war who isn't using their damage sub! I can get tp faster than a mnk using staff!!!!, ect
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2010-03-14 10:25:50
Ramuh.Tousou said: Cerberus.Watanabie said: We aren't arguing, we're conversing there is a small difference. Quote: Argue: To debate, disagree, or discuss opposing or differing viewpoints See ya'll later. Curse you and your definitions! Gonna go study my thesaurus now.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-14 10:31:44
Fairy.Vegetto said: rly shoots down your claim though.
Yes, I can get tp faster than a war who isn't using their damage sub! I can get tp faster than a mnk using staff!!!!, ect Not if the mnk is riding hasso and using a haste staff!!!
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By Odin.Aramina 2010-03-14 11:15:37
Off-topic but related to easy exp on THF:
If you don't mind gimping your skill and catching it up later, just volunteer to be puller for manaburns in Sauromugue (S). As long as one of the BLMs or the COR is the level Sync, you can get EXP fast there.
On top of that, THF is a natural for pulling that camp for both pets because you can use Flee and/or Hide if you link/agro a Goblin, which saves the wasted time of Sleep and mass logout.
Also, THF-burn is fun as hell at Bird camp, but you pretty much will need to set it up yourself. I've had them 4xTHF +RDM + BRD and with 3xTHF + DRG/BLU + BRD + COR. Both ways were super fun. You won't out-do a party full of crazy SAM and WAR, but you'll kill birds plenty fast and get to do it on THF.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2010-03-14 18:18:36
So your basically saying any job that isnt a sam or /sam isnt a DD
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 18:20:03
You're still a DD, just a weaker one. Hasso is very overpowered.
My thf is only lvl 18 and I know the whole deal with THF being good for farming and such, but before I put time into lvling this job I want to know on average just how much more profitable is this job than others?
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