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 Pandemonium.Scrumpet
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By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2013-05-28 18:30:27
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Guiz, y'all aren't having inspiring conversations about the amazingness of being gaymers in the world of Final Fantasy anymore. :c

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New page. -_-;
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2013-05-28 18:58:28
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ohai again gaiz, I thought this had died lol
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-28 19:04:00
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2013-05-28 19:04:54
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Get outta dem bushes. D:
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2013-05-28 19:08:06
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Should let it die.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-28 19:09:52
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It's already undead!
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2013-05-28 19:11:15
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You win this round Pleebo.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2013-05-28 20:35:22
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Well for a long time now it hasn't been the same as it once was in here, but giving the thread a death sentence seems harsh. :< Don't worry, poor thread. I still remember the good times we had.
 
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2013-05-28 20:42:55
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I have to use a VPN to post here because China and ffxiah aren't friends for some reason. I do the best I can. D:<
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By Asura.Ina 2013-05-29 03:40:49
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Pandemonium.Scrumpet said: »
Guiz, y'all aren't having inspiring conversations about the amazingness of being gaymers in the world of Final Fantasy anymore. :c

Edit:
New page. -_-;
I've been playing neverwinter instead so don't have any FF stuff to talk about really : (

Apparently the npc AI in this game believes there is never a bad time for suprise butt sex though
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By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2013-05-29 15:45:59
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Asura.Ina said: »
I've been playing neverwinter instead so don't have any FF stuff to talk about really : (
Apparently the npc AI in this game believes there is never a bad time for suprise butt sex though

Oh, you. :c
Tell your NPC that it needs to make sure you are ready!

Anyone have any interesting summer plans? :3
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2013-05-30 07:35:07
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Pandemonium.Scrumpet said: »
Anyone have any interesting summer plans? :3
2 months in 'Murrica, one of which will be spent tutoring (read: babysitting) the son of a Chinese millionaire. I anticipate a particularly weird summer this year.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-06-01 01:42:40
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Hello everyone!

Really good read if anyone is interested:

15 Things Gay Men Need To Stop Doing
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-06-01 01:47:24
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A lot of those can be applied to people in general.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-06-01 01:49:53
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Reread #9 multiple times and I'm still not seeing his point.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2013-06-01 01:53:21
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Pandemonium.Scrumpet said: »
Anyone have any interesting summer plans? :3

Wishing summer was over, too hot for work.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-06-01 01:57:15
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Reread #9 multiple times and I'm still not seeing his point.
I've met many gay men who don't care for marriage, and kinda try to rain on those that want it. Particularly those who perfectly content going to bars every night for a different ***, or going to bathouses/spa's regularly.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-06-01 02:17:16
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Oh ok, so naysayers then. That's less confusing.

#3 is kinda funny in the context of the whole page. "I'm gonna speak out against the image of idealized male beauty but I'm gonna preface my article with an image of idealized male beauty."
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-06-01 02:43:34
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Oh ok, so naysayers then. That's less confusing.

#3 is kinda funny in the context of the whole page. "I'm gonna speak out against the image of idealized male beauty but I'm gonna preface my article with an image of idealized male beauty."

It's a pretty serious issue that extends beyond clothing. The meth/steroid diet is pretty popular with gay men. Many are just oblivious to the consequences of meth, and only care about fitting in and achieving this perfect gay figure.
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-06-01 02:50:39
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Lots of great ideas, lots of bad ideas- seems to have arrived at all of them in the same terrible way

The bit about having an aesthetic preference being racist was embarrassing
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-06-01 03:19:23
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
The bit about having an aesthetic preference being racist was embarrassing

I agree in some cases it's an issue of tact, in others however, it's straight-up racism. The author is talking about people who verbalize it blatantly. If you go onto SCRUFF/GRINDR adam4adam etc... You see NO BLKs, NO AZN, NO LTN, NO WHT etc. I've even over-heard "sorry I'm not into blacks" at bars.

The best line I heard was when a guy told me "I'm not into latin men but you look white so I'll make an exception."
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-06-01 03:25:54
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
"I'm not into latin men but you look white so I'll make an exception."
lol! "Oh, I must have you now!"
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-06-01 03:42:58
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
The best line I heard was when a guy told me "I'm not into latin men but you look white so I'll make an exception."

Delivery is atrocious, but this is hardly racist

I never have and likely never will find a black man attractive. That doesn't mean I think they're inferior, it means they possess a particular aesthetic quality that I don't find attractive. Would I childishly parade it around as a conversation piece? Of course not, because I'm not an idiot. That doesn't make the person a racist
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-06-01 03:48:24
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
I never have and likely never will find a black man attractive. That doesn't mean I think they're inferior, it means they possess a particular aesthetic quality that I don't find attractive. Would I childishly parade it around as a conversation piece? Of course not, because I'm not an idiot. That doesn't make the person a racist

That's why I said:

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I agree in some cases it's an issue of tact, in others however, it's straight-up racism.

I've literally seen people with the same online profiles that say "not into BLKs" make comments at me for having black friends. So yes some gay men do use it as a tool for discrimination.

These are some pretty common gay lines you'll hear in West Hollywood:

"Ugh why are you going to Rage on Saturday it's Asian night"

"We don't do Factory on Thursday that's all black people"

"Oh I won't go to Circus it's ghetto, it's nothing but Mexicans"

The same people who usually blatantly list it in their m4m profiles are usually the ones who I've heard say such phrases.

Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
Delivery is atrocious, but this is hardly racist
I'm not going to comment on whether this is racist or not. To each their own.
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-06-01 03:53:20
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In all fairness, a lot of people need to be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to commonplace, seemingly racist remarks like that

It takes an extraordinary degree of consideration/clarity of thought to realize that most of the things you consider to be racial prejudices are simply highly correlative

Black people not tipping as well as white people, etc.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-06-01 03:55:58
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
In all fairness, a lot of people need to be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to commonplace, seemingly racist remarks like that
No comment.
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-06-01 03:57:17
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
I'm not going to comment on whether this is racist or not. To each their own.

The fact that they allegedly made an exception because of the way you look is a pretty blatant if unintentional representation of an aesthetic preference, not a racial one
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2013-06-01 03:58:58
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
The fact that they allegedly made an exception because of the way you look is a pretty blatant if unintentional representation of an aesthetic preference, not a racial one

Have you ever read The Autobiography of an Ex-colored Man? If not I'd highly suggest you do.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-06-01 04:01:57
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I think I'm mostly confused because I didn't realize it was possible to find Latinos unattractive.

My world is *** rocked, going somewhere to cry in a pillow.
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