Sad thing is we some how believe in this myth of our President actually runs the country is amazing. Every one well most every has bought into this american presidential BS. Obama does not control America in any shape or form and no american president has. Supprising as it may seem and actually most of you will refuse to believe it but a US president is only a liaison or better yet a figure head(puppet)for this country.
Predidents are used for scape goats Bush Obama Clinton Regan ect.... are all the same and take orders from Private Coperations and big buisness owners bankers ect.... ex. Rocafella's Kennedy's Morgan stanley
this list goes on. These people put the politicans in office who will push their personal adjendas. If you do a little reasearch or know anything about politics will understand this. Allowing the President to be seen as a leader and to give you the misconception that he actually make policies and has a tru say so as to who we war with send aid too ect... allows the people with "Old Money" to stay in power ( thats who actually runs america) and just switch up new faces(presidents) and run the "well i'll do better than the last guy" scam gimic all presidents run. Why because its their job to and thats why they are there to eat the ***when things go wrong. This is just a fact... This is just politics... reguardless of who you put in office... nothing will change
because... presidents do not have the power to change...... the country
only the people do....which a President is put in place to fool the people......
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
No worries, I don't do any of that either. While I said I don't care for Obama, it doesn't mean I cared for the other guy either. I don't care about politics in general.
Instead of crying about how he might have copied and pasted stuff from a wiki, you could do something that might help your argument, for example, going through and listing alternate viewpoints to the articles that he cited. Or some other evidence that further helps your viewpoint.
It's true, doesn't take much to copy and paste something. But all you bashing him for this are more or less saying "WTF you can't bring actual facts into this!?"
Instead you've just left the content of his post alone. Does this suggest you have no counterpoint? It certainly seems that way.
Rate-up! Even though it has no impact on anything! lol
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
I used to agree with this mentality, but seeing how U.S. politics is such smoke and mirrors now warms me up to the idea of uninformed citizens staying out of it altogether. Of course this will never work because all sides need their one-issue zombie voters to pack on the numbers, but still, in theory it'd be nice.
To be fair; true noticeable change of any kind through revamped policies takes years (note: plural) to come into light and complete effect. So far it's been about one.
and who gives a *** what matt damon thinks about politics, *** hollywood
But actors always tell the truth! We should listen to them! What they say matters!
Actors are supposed to have the popular opinion, if they disagreed with retards, who would see their movies. I mean really....
"I don't like so and so because they are pro bush, so not seeing that movie they are in."
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
I used to agree with this mentality, but seeing how U.S. politics is such smoke and mirrors now warms me up to the idea of uninformed citizens staying out of it altogether. Of course this will never work because all sides need their one-issue zombie voters to pack on the numbers, but still, in theory it'd be nice.
It just really gripes me, when you have these people who make out how bad the country is, and piss and moan about every decision made... then you ask them "So who did you vote for?" "I didn't vote..." "Then GTFO"
I had no choice but to vote for Obama. McCain was nothing more than George Bush Lite, and the idea of a...*shudder*...President Palin...was horrifying and nightmarish. Obama may not have been overly qualified, but she was nothing more than window dressing...as evidenced by the fact that she QUIT her governor job in the middle of her term because the big bad pwess people were being MEANIES. 8D
I had a general respect for McCain, but the whole Palin thing deterred me from voting that way. It was pretty insulting to bring her out and say she knows what she's doing. If you're going to lie to me in the normal political way, please do it well. lol
Same, it wasn't that I was in love with Obama or saw no faults with him, but the right just gave up such a crap-*** fight that it was, as with all politics as far as I'm concerned, just choosing the lesser of two evils. Palin was an insult to women voters by trying to rake in the on-and-off Hilary crowd and "break the ceiling in America." lol
and who gives a *** what matt damon thinks about politics, *** hollywood
He could quite easily say "who gives a *** about what these ffxiah people think about politics, *** FFXI" Everyone has a right to their own opinion, even Matt Damon even though I thought his last film was ***.
Lol, I just did I think..
Phoenix.Airbag said:
This thread is moot, going to eat dinner and smoke a fatty
It'd be nice if every persons opinion mattered (perhaps leading to a better informed population?), but alas it does not
I just wanted to say that Bart and Pikachu have made this thread very enjoyable, so thank you both for making my day at work funnier. Ok back to the flaming and such.
I just wanted to say that Bart and Pikachu have made this thread very enjoyable, so thank you both for making my day at work funnier. Ok back to the flaming and such.
Yes, I know many of you don't have business degrees, and are probably don't even have anything higher than a high school education. Some of you are pro-Obama, pro-Socialist, and probably anti-corporation for whatever reason you feel is true.
So a company makes a product. The product is reasonably good. Along comes someone with a business degree. They propose that if they remove feature X, it will save them 10 cents per unit, and roughly $400,000 over the course of the year as they produce and sell many of these products.
The person with the business degree estimates the impact of the removal of the feature, showing that it isn't used very often, and shouldn't change the overall quality of the product.
The business major is given corporate high-fives all around, and a fat bonus paycheck, as profit margins increase as expected.
The feature in question is a self-diagnostic that can be used to determine specific failures with the complex product, making resolving issues with the product faster and more accurate. Problems with the product naturally occur over the lifetime, and so support calls are made - inaccurate diagnostics result, higher costs of replacing various parts and extended troubleshooting ensue, and the customer is left feeling like their product is garbage. Because it is.
The diagnostic indicator in question was used quite frequently - but proving something that's common sense as that was difficult at best, and in the case of Mr. Executive (we'll call him), not only did this not matter, but this would impede his plan to get paid fat sacks of cash. Quality impact? Not accurately measurable, so we're going to just say it's zero. Oh, and fire the engineers who argued that removing the diagnostics would cause increased support cost and decreased customer satisfaction.
Eventually, this grievous error in design change is regarded internally as a major failure, and setback for the company. Satisfaction dropped, support costs outweighed the savings from originally removing it, and the decision had to be reversed, all at cost to the company. Other business majors had to plot out the math, and demonstrate completely why this plan had failed so miserably, costing the company more money and man hours.
Mr. Executive isn't at the company, but that's not because he was fired for making bad decisions - he left the company as it was reporting increased revenue and sales from the cheaper products, hopping to a new company to start the process anew. As far as his resume and future are concerned, he had a successful profit-increasing project, and was an executive at a large company while it was doing well. In fact, he left and now they're doing worse! Surely he is an excellent employee.
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Honestly, it's not the corporations that really create problems for consumers, employees, and the economy. It's the shitheads with buisness degrees that sit around thinking of ways to use *** statistics to try and justify their bonuses, performance-related pay, or job advancements with complete disregard for whether or not the process changes they're putting in place are going to be good for the business and the customers in the long run.
Maybe you'd run a business well - maybe you'd put your foot down on someone like that in your organization. Either way, your business degree doesn't means ***to me.
Also, yay Obama.
This was supurb, and is EXACTLY what is happening to the Royal Mail in the UK. Managers are obliterating offices by doin EXACTLY the above and moving on. I applaud you.
I just wanted to say that Bart and Pikachu have made this thread very enjoyable, so thank you both for making my day at work funnier. Ok back to the flaming and such.
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
This.
So a young child who had their parent(s) K.I.A has no right to an opinion on it?
A person who was left disabled as a War veteran (and as such, cannot leave the house) has no right to an opinion?
Everyone has equal opinions when it comes to the wellbeing of their country. Admittedly, only a select few are listened to.
I believe it is implied that obviously you wouldn't hold not voting against someone who isn't able to vote. I read his sentence saying "If don't vote (ie, you choose not to vote), then you have no reason to complain." And I still stand by that statement. What you are arguing over is semantics. But I will still apologize for anyone who might've been offended by the comment, although I believe it was misinterpreted based on the reply.
Yes, I know many of you don't have business degrees, and are probably don't even have anything higher than a high school education. Some of you are pro-Obama, pro-Socialist, and probably anti-corporation for whatever reason you feel is true.
So I'm going to dumb it down for you.
Obama is going to toss a tax to banks for repaying the TARP (thats the bailout money that Bush started, and he doubled as soon as he came into office) even though most of them already paid back their loans in full, or have not taken out a loan in the first place.
Its pretty much Robin Hood tactics, steal from the rich (or in this case, tax them) and give it to the poor (or in this case, the government, and I seriously doubt anyone would consider the government poor, even with the worlds biggest $1,000,000,000,000+ debt it owes). Except this won't be like the story, you aren't going to see one cent of this money.
What you will see, however, is more businesses going out in business thanks to the following: Higher fees to businesses for making loans, higher fees to the customers for monthly business (i.e. checking fees and all that) and more taxes to come when this looks to be "sucessful" in the short term.
Less businesses out there means less jobs for people to have, which also means higher unemployment.
Our major problem is not the national debt, but the unemployment rate, which is just under 10%.
We need to stop punishing the rich, it is not working. Has things really improved at all since Mr. Obama taken office? According to the most recent economic factors, it hasn't. The "improvements" that the media is showing lately is because of the year-by-year analysis from last year. We have slowed down our recession, but thats because of the huge dip it took right after Mr. Obama was elected, and it "improved" because we didn't take such a big dip as last year....
...I don't know about you, but downward is not improvement...
Taxing banks to recover "unrecoverable" money even though they had absolutly nothing to do with it is not the right solution.