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Obama being stupid again
Lakshmi.Kitrah
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By Lakshmi.Kitrah 2010-01-14 17:06:22
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: Lakshmi.Kitrah said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find
Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant.
Research ftw! ^_^
Copypasting wiki is not reasearch.
No, but reading it, cross-referencing it, and finding the facts before committing it to a post is! To JUST copy and paste it without seeing if it backs up any points trying to be made would be something someone who thinks Obama was voted in only because he's black would do.
And, that's one to grow on!
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-01-14 17:06:27
Think I'll just leave... you know what they say about arguing on the internet
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-14 17:07:16
Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said: My bad, wrong forum. lol
My family guy link was probably the only important thing in here anyway. Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said: I hate myself for continuing to check these forums. It feels like middle school around this *** anymore. <3
You kinda nailed it there.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-14 17:07:18
Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-01-14 17:07:25
Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Bismarck.Altar said: Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Iraq isn't over oil Wrong. Sorry.
Source and facts or it didn't happen. Before you swear something is a thing, make sure it's not an opinion.
I could retort w/ the exact same thing really...
. Gilgamesh.Andras said: If it is over oil, who cares, war for resources Oh Noes! Moreso the denial that it's over oil that's annoying really.
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By Sylph.Megumii 2010-01-14 17:07:35
Gilgamesh.Andras said: Think I'll just leave... you know what they say about arguing on the internet
...it's a great way to pass the time?
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By Fenrir.Ktjrn 2010-01-14 17:07:52
I'm just reading off of the first post (because i know most of the last 2 pages are riddled w/ jokes and off-topic banter)....
Do I think Obama is a failure? No. He's been in office one year. He can't change everything with a magic wand like people expect. I think it's part of the reason why America is in the shithole it's in now. We are too absorbed with the "Gimmie this now now now, I don't care who suffers, I want my toy now" attitude. While pulling the wool over our eyes, and forcing our religion upon other countries, we have a lot of the world hating our beliefs, and our very existence.
We used to not be enemies with Afghanistan, or Iran, or Iraq. We were on good terms, until we stuck our nose where it didnt belong, and forced our beliefs upon others that chose not to accept. There are a lot of achievements that President Obama has done that has been overlooked. With broadcast companies like Fox News, and political radio pundits like O' Reily, Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck, they seem to make it their full-time duty to make sure he fails, and refuse to acknowledge any credit he has done.
America used to be a country where it could stand together. I refuse to side with a political party that wants to see a President fail because he's not catering to their every need hand and foot. There are a LOT of achievements he's done for education, particularly college. I'm getting more funding to continue my education. Under the Bush Administration, my tuition increased by 18,000 dollars in eight years.
It's not easy to end a war, and you can't just pull out troops and expect it to be over with. It's not a game, and people need to realize that it's not the President's fault we are in this predicament. If only we would have took the time to improve international relations, instead of pointing the finger and trying to get revenge from Desert Storm 1992 (where George Bush Sr. Started this ***to begin with!), we would not have all this paranoia.
In 2001 (I was a senior in high school), I remember 9/11. I remember all activities being cancelled, notices and radio alerts to stay inside. It was a horrible experience for our nation. And since then, people have been running on fear, living in fear. We're not thinking with our right mind, instead, we're just believing anything that radio or news say (liberal or conservative views). We need to wake up out of this brainwashed machine, or else America is going to crash and burn faster than Adam and Eve being cast out the garden of Eden.
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-01-14 17:08:36
Lakshmi.Kitrah said: Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: Lakshmi.Kitrah said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant. Research ftw! ^_^ Copypasting wiki is not reasearch. No, but reading it, cross-referencing it, and finding the facts before committing it to a post is! To JUST copy and paste it without seeing if it backs up any points trying to be made would be something someone who thinks Obama was voted in only because he's black would do. And, that's one to grow on!
for all of you bashing wiki just cause its wiki, I would bet that kitrah did more research right there than any of you have about the subject
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By Titan.Marzbarz 2010-01-14 17:09:32
Phoenix.Airbag said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Lakshmi.Kitrah said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant. Research ftw! ^_^ Yes because using FTW is the way to say I'm as intelligent as it gets
are you serious marz? get the *** out of here Oh I'm sorry. Is ftw you're favorite thing to say too?
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By Sylph.Megumii 2010-01-14 17:10:05
I don't find upgrading to pro offensive >_>
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-14 17:10:11
Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way.
Most wars don't concern the soldiers that are involved in it. Being a soldiers is following orders. Period.
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By Lakshmi.Kitrah 2010-01-14 17:11:06
Valefor.Mattyc said: Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: Lakshmi.Kitrah said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find
Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant.
Research ftw! ^_^
Copypasting wiki is not reasearch.
copy and pasting makes you look "more ignorant" because anyone can do it, reading and understanding is FTW.
To ASSUME makes an *** out of U, not ME. ^_^
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-01-14 17:11:42
Titan.Marzbarz said: Phoenix.Airbag said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Lakshmi.Kitrah said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant. Research ftw! ^_^ Yes because using FTW is the way to say I'm as intelligent as it gets are you serious marz? get the *** out of here Oh I'm sorry. Is ftw you're favorite thing to say too?
I like hurr and durr a little bit more
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By Fenrir.Ktjrn 2010-01-14 17:12:00
And yes voted for Obama. And no, not because he was African-American (and I'm part African-American).
Give the man a chance. If he's doing this horrible of a job, why don't you call your local/state congressman about the issues that's really concerning you.
Don't sit back and ***, let your voice be heard. Maybe you may have that niche or idea he may need to further push this country along recovery. You never know..
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By Titan.Marzbarz 2010-01-14 17:12:47
Phoenix.Airbag said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Phoenix.Airbag said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Lakshmi.Kitrah said: Titan.Marzbarz said: Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant. Research ftw! ^_^ Yes because using FTW is the way to say I'm as intelligent as it gets are you serious marz? get the *** out of here Oh I'm sorry. Is ftw you're favorite thing to say too?
I like hurr and durr a little bit more Oh good. So do I
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-14 17:13:09
Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way.
Most wars don't concern the soldiers that are involved in it. Being a soldiers is following orders. Period.
Which is why I would never "fight for my country" draft included
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2010-01-14 17:14:07
i dont think people knew what they signed up for, i think alot of people wanted to look tough only to get killed,people in high school who got picked on n such are the ones usually, like my little brother, none of the u.s problems were ours, there all created between our presidents and there "defense" of our country, that our "freedom of speech" was silenced.*** war shouldnt even have to use guns for diplomacy thats why we all have a mouth to speak out of.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-14 17:15:41
Fenrir.Ktjrn said: And yes voted for Obama. And no, not because he was African-American (and I'm part African-American).
Give the man a chance. If he's doing this horrible of a job, why don't you call your local/state congressman about the issues that's really concerning you.
Don't sit back and ***, let your voice be heard. Maybe you may have that niche or idea he may need to further push this country along recovery. You never know.. What's the point your voice doesn't mean ***. My voice doesn't mean ***. Show me an election where 1 vote made the difference. It's the reason I'm not registered.
And before the "if everyone who thought like you voted there would be enough to make a difference." Guess what? Even if I did vote doesn't mean those others who didn't vote before are going to vote as well.
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-01-14 17:15:58
Valefor.Mattyc said: i dont think people knew what they signed up for, i think alot of people wanted to look tough only to get killed,people in high school who got picked on n such are the ones usually, like my little brother, none of the u.s problems were ours, there all created between our presidents and there "defense" of our country, that our "freedom of speech" was silenced.*** war shouldnt even have to use guns for diplomacy thats why we all have a mouth to speak out of.
Lol, u got me in again, if you join the military you should know, if you didn't then why did you join... And peace is the person with the bigger stick, thats why guns are needed for diplomacy. If talking it out fails then you duke it out
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-01-14 17:16:20
Fairy.Vegetto said: Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way. Most wars don't concern the soldiers that are involved in it. Being a soldiers is following orders. Period. Which is why I would never "fight for my country" draft included
there are ligitimate wars too you know, not just this shitstorm in the middleeast thats been happening since the creation of israel
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By Lakshmi.Kitrah 2010-01-14 17:17:53
Valefor.Mattyc said: i dont think people knew what they signed up for, i think alot of people wanted to look tough only to get killed,people in high school who got picked on n such are the ones usually, like my little brother, none of the u.s problems were ours, there all created between our presidents and there "defense" of our country, that our "freedom of speech" was silenced.*** war shouldnt even have to use guns for diplomacy thats why we all have a mouth to speak out of.
I agree with you 110%. It annoys me that the gov't jumps to every other country's cause, and we have so many problems of our own.
From homelessness, to low education, to obesity. We sure as heck can find something to work on on our own soil.
"*** war shouldnt even have to use guns for diplomacy thats why we all have a mouth to speak out of."
Preach on, brother. I have a quote I like to use: "Fighting for peace is like f*ck*ng for celibacy."
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-14 17:17:54
Phoenix.Airbag said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way. Most wars don't concern the soldiers that are involved in it. Being a soldiers is following orders. Period. Which is why I would never "fight for my country" draft included
there are ligitimate wars too you know, not just this shitstorm in the middleeast thats been happening since the creation of israel Like I said, I wouldn't mind fighting in a war I deemed worthy of risking my own life. Other than that, they can *** off, lol.
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-01-14 17:18:21
Phoenix.Airbag said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way. Most wars don't concern the soldiers that are involved in it. Being a soldiers is following orders. Period. Which is why I would never "fight for my country" draft included
there are ligitimate wars too you know, not just this shitstorm in the middleeast thats been happening since the creation of israel
wars are always over something. shitstorm in the middleeast is over religion.
Honestly I only agree with going to war over land and resources.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-14 17:19:18
Fairy.Vegetto said: Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way.
Most wars don't concern the soldiers that are involved in it. Being a soldiers is following orders. Period.
Which is why I would never "fight for my country" draft included
I thought drafting was cancelled in the states. Isn't the army an all volunteers occasion now?
EDIT: Yeah, it's a pretty sad day when a soldier gets to pick its choice of war to fight. That won't ever happen.
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2010-01-14 17:19:45
Gilgamesh.Andras said: Valefor.Mattyc said: i dont think people knew what they signed up for, i think alot of people wanted to look tough only to get killed,people in high school who got picked on n such are the ones usually, like my little brother, none of the u.s problems were ours, there all created between our presidents and there "defense" of our country, that our "freedom of speech" was silenced.*** war shouldnt even have to use guns for diplomacy thats why we all have a mouth to speak out of.
Lol, u got me in again, if you join the military you should know, if you didn't then why did you join... And peace is the person with the bigger stick, thats why guns are needed for diplomacy. If talking it out fails then you duke it out
true but my point is theres no need for death over stupid ***, id have to agree with Veg not my problem,just upset still that people die for problems that they didnt create.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-14 17:20:10
Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol, I wouldn't go to war even if they had another draft. If I personally have a problem w/ w/e it is the war is about, sure, but if it's a matter of which does not concern me, no *** way.
Most wars don't concern the soldiers that are involved in it. Being a soldiers is following orders. Period.
Which is why I would never "fight for my country" draft included
I thought drafting was cancelled in the states. Isn't the army an all volunteers occasion now? Yea it's inactive, was mainly a "if they brought it back" type deal.
Yes, I know many of you don't have business degrees, and are probably don't even have anything higher than a high school education. Some of you are pro-Obama, pro-Socialist, and probably anti-corporation for whatever reason you feel is true.
So I'm going to dumb it down for you.
Obama is going to toss a tax to banks for repaying the TARP (thats the bailout money that Bush started, and he doubled as soon as he came into office) even though most of them already paid back their loans in full, or have not taken out a loan in the first place.
Its pretty much Robin Hood tactics, steal from the rich (or in this case, tax them) and give it to the poor (or in this case, the government, and I seriously doubt anyone would consider the government poor, even with the worlds biggest $1,000,000,000,000+ debt it owes). Except this won't be like the story, you aren't going to see one cent of this money.
What you will see, however, is more businesses going out in business thanks to the following: Higher fees to businesses for making loans, higher fees to the customers for monthly business (i.e. checking fees and all that) and more taxes to come when this looks to be "sucessful" in the short term.
Less businesses out there means less jobs for people to have, which also means higher unemployment.
Our major problem is not the national debt, but the unemployment rate, which is just under 10%.
We need to stop punishing the rich, it is not working. Has things really improved at all since Mr. Obama taken office? According to the most recent economic factors, it hasn't. The "improvements" that the media is showing lately is because of the year-by-year analysis from last year. We have slowed down our recession, but thats because of the huge dip it took right after Mr. Obama was elected, and it "improved" because we didn't take such a big dip as last year....
...I don't know about you, but downward is not improvement...
Taxing banks to recover "unrecoverable" money even though they had absolutly nothing to do with it is not the right solution.
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