Does "Vs. Birds" Included Colibri?
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Does "Vs. Birds" Included Colibri?
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By Carbuncle.Rebwolf 2010-01-08 15:09:08
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Wiki has Colibri in it's own family and not the birds family. So will colibri be affected by synergy of "Vs. Birds?"

Also. If I get the Ginhaku Togi (White) I should be able to put vs. birds att on the first slot, and vs. birds acc on the second right?

Does anyone know how much of a critical hit damage bonus the shikkoku/Ginhaku/Shinku Bodies/Hands give?


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By Siren.Enternius 2010-01-08 15:10:13
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"Colibri" isn't the family, but rather the species. Birds is the family.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2010-01-08 15:17:33
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Yea, Vs. Birds would include:

Amphipteres
Apkallu
Bat Trios
Birds
Cockatrices
Colibri
Giant Bats
Hippogryphs
Rocs

Although, not sure why amphipteres are birds and not dragons lol. It says in the description of them "Demonic Dragons".
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By Carbuncle.Dameshi 2010-01-08 15:17:56
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If you ask they bird family, they'd say Colibri are not a part of them. They're lying. They're just ashamed of the Colibri. Who can blame them?

I don't know the answer to your other 2 questions.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-08 15:20:34
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Wiki said:
Colibri

Family Information
Type: Birds
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Colibri

Can't answer the other questions, I haven't been following Synergy at all.
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By Ramuh.Citag 2010-01-08 15:44:08
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I never understood why bats were in the bird family.
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-01-08 16:27:56
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Ramuh.Citag said:
I never understood why bats were in the bird family.
Because they fly and there aren't any other winged mammals in game that I can think of.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-08 16:37:38
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Fairy.Usua said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
I never understood why bats were in the bird family.
Because they fly and there aren't any other winged mammals in game that I can think of.
It would make more sense for them to be Beasts, no?
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2010-01-08 16:39:12
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
It would make more sense for them to be Vermin or Beasts, no?

Beasts, yes; Vermin, no. And... your post only goes up to "for them to be in Vermin." o.O Weird.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-08 16:41:05
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Fairy.Azulmagia said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
It would make more sense for them to be Vermin or Beasts, no?

Beasts, yes; Vermin, no. And... your post only goes up to "for them to be in Vermin." o.O Weird.
Lol O_o Weird. I looked back at the Vermin list... thought there were a couple mobs in there that were close to Vermin but they're all Beasts so I don't see Vermin at this point either.
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By Ramuh.Citag 2010-01-08 16:41:27
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Fairy.Usua said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
I never understood why bats were in the bird family.
Because they fly and there aren't any other winged mammals in game that I can think of.

Penguins dont fly and they are considred birds.
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By Ramuh.Lilbusta 2010-01-08 16:44:27
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Ramuh.Citag said:
Fairy.Usua said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
I never understood why bats were in the bird family.
Because they fly and there aren't any other winged mammals in game that I can think of.
Penguins dont fly and they are considred birds.

Either do Ostrich, Emu, Chicken or Turkey.
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2010-01-08 16:44:47
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Lol O_o Weird. I looked back at the Vermin list... thought there were a couple mobs in there that were close to Vermin but they're all Beasts so I don't see Vermin at this point either.

Well, I figure Beasts to be the best group for them as the majority (all?) of mammals are in Beasts, and bats are mammals.
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-01-08 16:54:08
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Fairy.Usua said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
I never understood why bats were in the bird family.
Because they fly and there aren't any other winged mammals in game that I can think of.
It would make more sense for them to be Beasts, no?
meh I'm just guessing that they threw them into an airborne category.
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-01-08 16:55:00
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Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Fairy.Usua said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
I never understood why bats were in the bird family.
Because they fly and there aren't any other winged mammals in game that I can think of.
Penguins dont fly and they are considred birds.

Either do Ostrich, Emu, Chicken or Turkey.
At one point in their evolution they probably did, though.
Edit: And turkeys can fly, wild ones any way.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-01-08 17:26:17
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So can chickens, haven't you played Zelda?
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By Ramuh.Lilbusta 2010-01-08 17:26:49
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I don't count turkeys because they can't fly for long periods of time. Mainly just enough to get into a tree out of danger.
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-01-08 18:10:40
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Ramuh.Lilbusta said:
I don't count turkeys because they can't fly for long periods of time. Mainly just enough to get into a tree out of dangeri .
I've seen turkeys fly for a long distance plenty of times while I was hunting.
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By Fairy.Usua 2010-01-08 18:11:22
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Odin.Blazza said:
So can chickens, haven't you played Zelda?
lol never have actually.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-08 18:32:07
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Unfortunately outside of the new ebon stuff you wont be able to get enough vs birds stats on anything so far that can be synergized to make up for it's total lack of other useful stats.

Sad part is most these ebon peices are only good or sometimes really good against 1 certain family you pick but nothing that exciting even on that family and mostly crap otherwise
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By Alexander.Neph 2010-01-08 18:47:34
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I think I've seen a synergized Hellfire+1 with vs Birds: Ratt+whatever. About as useful as non-ebon synergy gets though.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-08 19:08:40
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Alexander.Neph said:
I think I've seen a synergized Hellfire 1 with vs Birds: Ratt whatever. About as useful as non-ebon synergy gets though.
Hellfire+1 fits +ws att/ratt. Can get up to 12 marksminship... however you have to kill the Dune boots nm well and have a bit of scylds and it ranges from 8-12 and you have to HQ your synergy on hellfire+1 to fit the 12. Trying to get people together to kill it. Damn you racist door

There are some weird ones like +scythe ws skillchain dmg that only fits on xbows... which makes think that maybe these weapon type specific ones will activate on other slots. If so you can put those +12 marksminship ws ratts on a couple of mid lvl axes too lol.
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