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 Siren.Kimiko
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By Siren.Kimiko 2009-12-18 07:12:07
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According to a recent article on Develop's website. SE president Yoichi Wada has hinted that micro-transactions of some kind will exist within FFXIV. The extent of these micro-transactions is as of yet not known, however Wada hints this is akin to the system already in place on FFXI (think the rewards from the mini-scenarios, nexus cape, mog satchel, etc...).

Personally I hope they don't take this too far and start diving into the realm of SE sanctioned real money trade.

http://www.ffxivblog.com/hints-of-micro-transactions-in-ffxiv/
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By Kujata.Erim 2009-12-18 07:16:30
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I hate that word.... "Micro-Transactions"

As far as I'm concerned the only things we should have to pay for on top of the monthly charge are optional player support things, like changing servers, names, race, appearance, etc.

Oh, and expansions of course.

EDIT: I suppose if they consider the add-ons like ACP "micro-transactions", that doesn't bother me too much, those were pretty fun and the work they put into them deserved some form of payment imo, plus I liked the rewards.
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By Siren.Kimiko 2009-12-18 07:20:22
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I just pray that's what their referring to.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2009-12-18 07:27:15
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I like pina coladas too, but the rain is wet.

Back on topic, I have no idea what to 'get' from that. There's too many possibilities.
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By Kujata.Erim 2009-12-18 07:43:20
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Wada said:
"We soon learnt that there are a lot of people who want that kind of model, so we would like to introduce more pay-as-you-use items into the game."

A lot of people huh? If those people make up more than 1% of FFXI's population, that is *** embarrassing. Who wants to pay for a single item with real cash?

Add-Ons like ACP didn't just give me a reward at the end of the story, it also gave me a short story to play through with my friends and it was something I enjoyed. Dumping cash for straight items or Gil though is a horrible *** idea. Honestly if the game goes in that direction, then my interest in it will have been completely destroyed.
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By Ifrit.Maddi 2009-12-18 07:46:54
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well they could introduce mercenary npc´s, lol.

but seriously, if they introduce officially micro transactions, than its better something more senseful than "lolNexusCape"
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2009-12-18 07:48:11
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if i remmember theres another online game like that arion orion somethign like that.


btw out of curiosity what does the purple bar/title stuff stand for?
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By Leviathan.Veronika 2009-12-18 08:07:28
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Doesn't bother me if they add in micro-transactions so long as the items meet a certain few conditions:

1) They're untradable
2) They do not enhance your stats at all
3) They're only for looks (Costume-type items you can wear, and things for your FF14 equivalent of a mog house.)
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By Bahamut.Josseppi 2009-12-18 08:08:02
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As much as the game is for fun for us, its all about money making for them. With the decline in population in most worlds as people move on to other games, they are losing revenue. What better way for them to make up for that loss of profit then to allow players to spend 40 bucks on a few million gil. RMT happens anyways and they have to pay people to investigate it then terminate memberships of those commiting the acts. As much at that is nice for rule abiding players, its a double loss for them because they lose the revenue from the banned accounts and they shell out salaries to their employees. Since it happens anyways, why not make a profit on it while you can.

As much as I enjoy the challenge of earning items in the game, there are things like relic and mythic weapons that I know I'll never be able to earn playing. I simply don't have the time in my life to spend days gil making. Though I would never risk rmt now, if I could legitimately pay a few dollars to get excalibur, I would consider it.
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By Carbuncle.Sterling 2009-12-18 08:13:20
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$10 Kraken Club YES PLEASE.
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By Kujata.Erim 2009-12-18 08:18:10
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Bahamut.Josseppi said:
As much as the game is for fun for us, its all about money making for them. With the decline in population in most worlds as people move on to other games, they are losing revenue. What better way for them to make up for that loss of profit then to allow players to spend 40 bucks on a few million gil. RMT happens anyways and they have to pay people to investigate it then terminate memberships of those commiting the acts. As much at that is nice for rule abiding players, its a double loss for them because they lose the revenue from the banned accounts and they shell out salaries to their employees. Since it happens anyways, why not make a profit on it while you can.

As much as I enjoy the challenge of earning items in the game, there are things like relic and mythic weapons that I know I'll never be able to earn playing. I simply don't have the time in my life to spend days gil making. Though I would never risk rmt now, if I could legitimately pay a few dollars to get excalibur, I would consider it.

Something just occurred to me... Doesn't EVE Online or some current MMO allow players to purchase ISK (its currency) through official means? This actually doesn't sound like a bad idea since it would be a great way to try and eliminate RMT competition. Afterall, like Josseppi said, it's going to happen anyway.
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By Kujata.Akeda 2009-12-18 08:19:11
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EverQuest has 2 servers where you can buy and sell characters and gold.


Micro transactions wouldn't be too bad though depending on what it was they were offering. I don't want stuff that gives an advantage over other players just because they paid real money for them, it's totally unfair.
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By Lakshmi.Bshizzle 2009-12-18 08:28:19
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It could be similar to the way free MMOGs like Maple Story have an "Item Store" of some kind and you pay $$ for all kinds of stuff in the game.

This would be terrible and I don't think I could play a game like that, so hopefully it's not.
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By Gilgamesh.Kunimitsu 2009-12-18 08:38:55
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idc, as long as its items like in xi. Like tidal talisman, or a giant chocobo for your moghouse. As long as im not having to pay extra on top of the monthly fee to gear my job to its best.
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By Ramuh.Scarmiglione 2009-12-18 09:08:39
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I wonder if people would pay to get an item to pop a HNM like nidhogg. Might be what they are hinting at to eliminate the current HNM mess with bots dominating servers. Atleast other people would have a chance at the rare item, even if they have to pay some cash for it.
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By Sylph.Sindri 2009-12-18 09:18:50
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Have fun on 14 guys!! I love how everything about it is already causing so much conflict!! Ill stick with 11
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By Bahamut.Atrithk 2009-12-18 09:18:51
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They probably won't sell HNM tier items, or storyline complete items. It would completely ruin the game's dynamic if they did that, and I KNOW they see it.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2009-12-18 09:21:27
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It depends on the extent of micro-transactions, SE is a profit business after all and this could eliminate RMT also, so they're killing two birds with one stone so to speak.

RMT is a multi-billion dollar industry now? I'm sure as a business owner all that potential profit is too hard not to have.
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By Kujata.Erim 2009-12-18 09:26:10
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Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
It depends on the extent of micro-transactions, SE is a profit business after all and this could eliminate RMT also, so they're killing two birds with one stone so to speak.

RMT is a multi-billion dollar industry now? I'm sure as a business owner all that potential profit is too hard not to have.

Hey, as long as its done in a manner where I won't feel FORCED to trade in real money for virtual goods, I won't complain... too much.
Crossing the line is in what Bshizzle said. You have to pay real cash to obtain virtual goods from an Item Store, no other way of obtaining them.

Sylph.Sindri said:
Have fun on 14 guys!! I love how everything about it is already causing so much conflict!! Ill stick with 11

This is the only announcement thats bothered me about the game thus far. I could name a number of things in FF11 that currently bother me. Don't judge a game too harshly before you've even had a chance to try or at least observe it.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-12-18 09:37:52
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Ya know.... I don't really mind the micro-transactions / cash shop in MMO's. I play PWI which also has it (but is a F2P) and anything you buy in the cash shop can be traded for gold or other items as well. Plus, people with more money irl and less time to play can get the same level of enjoyment with buying something that can be farmed up without spending the hours and hours to farm it.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2009-12-18 09:44:12
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As long as the items can be earned in game as well, I wouldn't mind as much.

I will admit that I would've paid for the mog satchel even without the token being involved.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2009-12-18 09:49:01
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All SE is doing is trying to squeeze as much money out of a dying game as possible. That's it. They don't give a crap about the players just the bottom line like any other corporation. The sooner people except that the better lol
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By Siren.Ashkente 2009-12-18 09:49:30
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If anything, all this does is make me want to start a LS/guild/whatevertheyendupcallingthem, called "HardMode".

Simple rules:
1) If there is any form of RMT for improved stats, and you use it, you're booted.
2) If you're a PC player and you harp on about how everything's so much better with WindowerXIV, you're booted.
3) If you put together events that state 'we need at least 6blm's or this will take too long/have a chance of failure etc.' you're gone.
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By Kujata.Erim 2009-12-18 09:52:55
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Siren.Ashkente said:
If anything, all this does is make me want to start a LS/guild/whatevertheyendupcallingthem, called "HardMode".

Simple rules:
1) If there is any form of RMT for improved stats, and you use it, you're booted.
2) If you're a PC player and you harp on about how everything's so much better with WindowerXIV, you're booted.
3) If you put together events that state 'we need at least 6blm's or this will take too long/have a chance of failure etc.' you're gone.


But but but... Windower IS so much better! I DO hope they've improved the interface to allow some customization though seriously, and a built in (pseudo)window mode.
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By Fairy.Blackmist 2009-12-18 09:53:47
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Kujata.Erim said:
Bahamut.Josseppi said:
As much as the game is for fun for us, its all about money making for them. With the decline in population in most worlds as people move on to other games, they are losing revenue. What better way for them to make up for that loss of profit then to allow players to spend 40 bucks on a few million gil. RMT happens anyways and they have to pay people to investigate it then terminate memberships of those commiting the acts. As much at that is nice for rule abiding players, its a double loss for them because they lose the revenue from the banned accounts and they shell out salaries to their employees. Since it happens anyways, why not make a profit on it while you can.

As much as I enjoy the challenge of earning items in the game, there are things like relic and mythic weapons that I know I'll never be able to earn playing. I simply don't have the time in my life to spend days gil making. Though I would never risk rmt now, if I could legitimately pay a few dollars to get excalibur, I would consider it.

Something just occurred to me... Doesn't EVE Online or some current MMO allow players to purchase ISK (its currency) through official means? This actually doesn't sound like a bad idea since it would be a great way to try and eliminate RMT competition. Afterall, like Josseppi said, it's going to happen anyway.

no they dont let you buy ISK with real money, allthough there are "RMT's" all over that game, What they do, is let you trade ISK for Membership subscription, it's about 260 mill ISK for 1 free month of play =P
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By Bahamut.Nomadikhan 2009-12-18 10:20:02
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all i know is the subscription fee each month better be less than 12.95 USd else what's to stop me from enjoying a cheaper game?
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By Kujata.Erim 2009-12-18 10:23:00
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Bahamut.Nomadikhan said:
all i know is the subscription fee each month better be less than 12.95 USd else what's to stop me from enjoying a cheaper game?

I guess the fact that the cheaper game might be worse? Who's to say?

I do agree though, 12 or 13 USD is a good price and paying for additional characters was pretty *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Fairy.Winterlight 2009-12-18 10:47:38
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what if the game didn't have a subscription fee and we could do microtransactions?

I might actually buy stuff...
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By Cerberus.Phyrefly 2009-12-18 11:19:09
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Sylph.Sindri said:
Have fun on 14 guys!! I love how everything about it is already causing so much conflict!! Ill stick with 11


Agreed.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-12-18 11:22:55
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Bahamut.Nomadikhan said:
all i know is the subscription fee each month better be less than 12.95 USd else what's to stop me from enjoying a cheaper game?
lol, if you want to play a cheaper game, go ahead. SE isn't going to stop you. :P
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