ASA Pants Vs. Mahatma Slops

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ASA Pants Vs. Mahatma Slops
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2009-12-08 01:10:23
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I read people saying that ASA Pants with MAB/Macc +4 is better (only minimal differnce) than Mahatma Slops. My question is how much exactly? If I were to do 1500 with Thunder IV on lets say a Pudding in Mahatma, how much would that be with ASA pants?
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-12-08 02:08:34
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That is a hard question to answer, as it depends on your MAB before the ASA pants.

But here's a worked example:
Mahatma
105INT
32MAB (BLM Traits)
28MAB (Gear)
HQ Staff
Ebony Pudding
Thunder IV
1400 damage

ASA
99INT
32MAB (BLM Traits)
32MAB (Gear)
HQ Staff
Ebony Pudding
Thunder IV
1403 damage

So 3 damage over 1400 (0.2% increase).
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2009-12-08 02:19:24
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Ok, lets say with Mahatma you have 115INT (in Mahatma) and 28 MAB in gear (not including the +10 MAB in Thunder Merits too). Could you calc that? ^^
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-12-08 02:36:18
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It will be the same basic answer, with a little higher base damage, but ok.

Mahatma
115INT
32MAB (BLM Traits)
28MAB (Gear)
HQ Staff
Ebony Pudding
Thunder IV
1449 damage

ASA
99INT
32MAB (BLM Traits)
32MAB (Gear)
HQ Staff
Ebony Pudding
Thunder IV
1453 damage

4 damage, 0.2% increase.

Edit: To save me having to re-calc this for every conceivable combination; http://bash74.com/magic/
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-08 13:23:31
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Sorta depends on the Tier of magic. AM2aga3 ASA pants will really beat mahat and even beat morri unless you have a negative dint
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-12-08 13:32:30
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I know it's not directly on topic, but if anyone happens to see this thread in the future:

For SCH, ASA pants with M.ACC+4 MAB+4 will always beat Mahatma for nuking. Reason being, SCH has 0 base MAB so it all comes from /RDM (20) or /BLM (24). As such, adding MAB will have a much bigger effect than adding it on BLM.
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-12-08 13:42:30
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Siren.Enternius said:
I know it's not directly on topic,

No it is completely off topic.

Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sorta depends on the Tier of magic. AM2aga3 ASA pants will really beat mahat and even beat morri unless you have a negative dint

Yes, if you go to a higher base damage the ASA pants advantage increases, conversely for any thing lower than Aero or Fire IV Mahatama win always win.

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-08 13:49:23
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Kujata.Argettio said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sorta depends on the Tier of magic. AM2aga3 ASA pants will really beat mahat and even beat morri unless you have a negative dint
Yes, if you go to a higher base damage the ASA pants advantage increases, conversely for any thing lower than Aero or Fire IV Mahatama win always win.
Also depends on dint and your MAB. Remember you probably will lose 10MAB using aero or fire IV. At around 40 or so dint (can't remember the exact amount) and like 0MAB from gear I beleive ASA could even beat morrigan's on thunder/blizz IV assuming you merited there potency. These definitely beat mahat for pretty much anything your gunna do and sometimes beat morrigan's. Personally if I was doing missions I'd get them

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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-12-08 13:57:09
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Yes it all varies, as you change any stat the turning point moves.

But as a general (very rough) case for BLM:
ASA < Mahatma for T3
ASA = Mahatma for T4
ASA > Mahatma for AMII, GA III

Personally I would take the movement speed over nuking pants, but I don't want to open that can of worms again.
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