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 Leviathan.Marzanna
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By Leviathan.Marzanna 2009-12-01 23:13:41
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That's what my cat looks like when shes happy =/

Edit: lol @ Ludo
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:13:48
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Don't you dare try and derail my march tiers. I worked hard to derail this thread into march tiers, and I won't stand by and let blue birds of happiness steal that away from me.
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-12-01 23:15:40
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Pandemonium.Nususu said:
What's your march percentage? If you don't know I'll be very sad.

fff I don't know off the top of my head, I'm not really into FFXI math, I only know how to do my job right. :s. I have the tier under G-horn.



No he tried to steal my March instead of do his Mins because he's a 2boxing mule and forgot. D:
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-12-01 23:16:09
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Pandemonium.Nususu said:
What's your march percentage? If you don't know I'll be very sad.


How can you determine your march percentage? I just got bard to 75 about a week ago. I macro full skill gear into my marches because i'm pretty sure that increses the tier of the buff. I'm not sure how i can see my haste percentage though...

It seems like there are at least 2 good bards in this thread. Can i salvage this formerly useless thread by begging for bard info?
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By Leviathan.Marzanna 2009-12-01 23:16:10
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My bad, I'm just missing cape. Really should go and do something about that, but medical issues have somewhat limited my FF activities lately sadly.. Hopefully not for long ^^;

Edit, its either listed on wiki if not then BG, don't have the actual link on me but if you search around those you'll find the info.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-12-01 23:17:03
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Pandemonium.Nususu said:
Don't you dare try and derail my march tiers. I worked hard to derail this thread into march tiers, and I won't stand by and let blue birds of happiness steal that away from me.





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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:17:34
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Add your singing and wind skill together. Check with the chart at the bottom of this page.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Victory_March
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-12-01 23:18:53
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Pandemonium.Nususu said:
Add your singing and wind skill together. Check with the chart at the bottom of this page.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Victory_March

Holyshit Wiki has useful information. I'll let you know in a second, gearing up BRD for salv anyway. And yes ask away BRD questions if you wish Sev~
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By Diabolos.Sovereign 2009-12-01 23:19:37
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I'm more amused by the fact that the #5 player on the server isn't cared enough about to be looked at without creating a bunch of drama on the forum.

Somehow, my profile tends to sit on the front page of Diabolos's most viewed more days than not during the week. I can assure you it's not because of my achievement rank lol. Maybe it has something to do with the fact my linkshell does respectable in-game content. Or maybe because I continually outcamp and outclaim other linkshells on my server on ToAU Kings and dual box hold them with nothing more than a PLD and a WHM and two separate keyboards until the rest of my LS arrives. I cant tell you how many other linkshells I've upset by doing this lol

But hey, if I wasnt doing worthwhile endgame content I could have spent all of my time on exp too... ***maybe I could be #5 on my server with no relic, too.
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:20:14
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Bard is the only job I play. I know Bard pretty well, or so I've been told.
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By Leviathan.Marzanna 2009-12-01 23:21:16
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Pandemonium.Nususu said:
Add your singing and wind skill together. Check with the chart at the bottom of this page.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Victory_March

I would hope people with the job at 75 would be aware that you need to add the two numbers together to calculate min/mad/march tiers lol >_> Though having said that, I can remember at least half a dozen BRD's I've had to explain all this to...
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:22:43
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Min and mad cap out on attack or acc after a certain amount of skill, which is why i sing those in haste and skill.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-12-01 23:23:46
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Thanks! That is a lot of help to me...

look, i've got one more question that you are likely going to lol at but it's worth a shot.

I know to macro skill gear into buffs and CHR gear/HQ ele stave into debuffs. I also know that skill gear still helps with debuffs. Do you know how much more wind/singing skill than CHR it takes before it's better to use the skill gear for debuffs?

Example: Noble's ribbon is +3 CHR. Demon Helm +1 is +6 wind skill. I know CHR is better for debuffs, but would 6 skill be better than 3 CHR?

Sorry, for the nubbishness but i've searched forums unsuccessfully trying to figure this out and would really like to know.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-12-01 23:23:54
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Diabolos.Sovereign said:
I'm more amused by the fact that the #5 player on the server isn't cared enough about to be looked at without creating a bunch of drama on the forum.

Somehow, my profile tends to sit on the front page of Diabolos's most viewed more days than not during the week. I can assure you it's not because of my achievement rank lol. Maybe it has something to do with the fact my linkshell does respectable in-game content. Or maybe because I continually outcamp and outclaim other linkshells on my server on ToAU Kings and dual box hold them with nothing more than a PLD and a WHM and two separate keyboards until the rest of my LS arrives. I cant tell you how many other linkshells I've upset by doing this lol

But hey, if I wasnt doing worthwhile endgame content I could have spent all of my time on exp too... ***maybe I could be #5 on my server with no relic, too.
Or possibly cause you post and that makes people want to clicky on you.
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By Leviathan.Marzanna 2009-12-01 23:25:14
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I know this, I also do the same... I'm just saying, if people aren't aware how to calculate march tiers, it makes me think they didn't know how to calculate min/mad either....

Edit: CHR to skill is similar to INT to skill and so on. its about 2 CHR to 1 skill approx. For most slots it will really be obvious, as best I can remember.

Anyways, as long as you have the 110-130ish CHR I wouldn't worry. Sorry if that's not exact, not logged in and couldn't be assed.

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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:25:40
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Both CHR and singing/wind affect magic accuracy. Every two points of CHR gives you 1 magic accuracy, and every one point of singing or wind skill gives you 1 magic accuracy.
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-12-01 23:26:35
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545 skill, so 11.72% haste.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-12-01 23:27:03
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Pandemonium.Nususu said:
Both CHR and singing/wind affect magic accuracy. Every two points of CHR gives you 1 magic accuracy, and every one point of singing or wind skill gives you 1 magic accuracy.
Some of them math nerds say that 1chr can = 1macc depending on what you are singing on...kinda like int for mages.
but screw them
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-12-01 23:27:21
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so does that mean i'm better off macroing in skill gear than CHR for debuffs?
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-12-01 23:28:27
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
so does that mean i'm better off macroing in skill gear than CHR for debuffs?

Depends on which slot really, but most of the time yes.

Also IDK MATH THINGS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, you need some CHR to beat out the foe's CHR otherwise stuff won't stick? But most of the time your CHR will be *should be...* higher anyway.
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:28:40
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You generally want a mix of both CHR and skill. The accepted number to shoot for is to have 110 total chr, and then fill the rest with skill.
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-12-01 23:28:50
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So should I move this to the Bard forum >.>?
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:29:40
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That would be appropriate.
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By Remora.Ninian 2009-12-01 23:30:38
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Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
So should I move this to the Bard forum >.>?

DO IT
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-12-01 23:31:00
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Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
So should I move this to the Bard forum >.>?
most spoony bards are dirty commies naturally.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-12-01 23:31:28
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Remora.Ninian said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
so does that mean i'm better off macroing in skill gear than CHR for debuffs?
Depends on which slot really, but most of the time yes. Also IDK MATH THINGS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, you need some CHR to beat out the foe's CHR otherwise stuff won't stick? But most of the time your CHR will be *should be...* higher anyway.
Pandemonium.Nususu said:
Both CHR and singing/wind affect magic accuracy. Every two points of CHR gives you 1 magic accuracy, and every one point of singing or wind skill gives you 1 magic accuracy.


Wow. That's pretty enlightening...

BRB rewriting Spellcast XML...
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-12-01 23:32:06
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lolBrd
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:33:04
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Ninian, nice merits. I need to finish mine.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-12-01 23:34:05
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
lolBrd


you're so right dude better be sure to kick those xp leeches the next time they worm their way into your meritpo
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-01 23:35:18
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Oh and I was pretty excited the other day because I put together a set to force yellow hp for minstrel's ring, and i only spent 150k on all the gear for it.
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