Shared DynamisD MPK Problem

Every other run someone, usually a multi boxer, kills the wave 1 boss without warning in the middle of the run despite plenty of wave 1 statues being left.
I don't know if it's deliberate MPKing or just carelessness but it happens very frequently.

Afaik GMs used to punish for MPKing so I don't see why fujito, or who ever is in charge, thought it's a great idea to just spawn wave 2 statues on top of everyone without a warning while they are busy.

The most obvious solution would be a position reset after wave 1 boss dies, basically warping everyone to a save starting point for wave 2.

There's an HP bar in the upper left corner for the W1 boss isnt there? So you got your warning already, its just like in normal dyna once W1 boss is killed the W2 mobs are popped in, not sure what they could do aside from give a 10~15 second grace period before swapping waves.

I didn't know about the HP bar, I still believe it's not a elegant solution.

For instance I imagine a BiS 6 box will drop Wave 1 boss pretty quickly, most likely faster than a solo player can deal with one of the larger groups or a link, in particular if the link is the wrong color.

A low man group that barely meets the requirements on the other hand might need 15+ minutes to finish wave 1 boss.

The massive lag inside DynamisD makes crowd control hard enough and the monotony of the event makes it hard to pay attention for a full hour.
I don't think we should have to constantly monitor some HP bar of a mob we aren't even engaged to on top of it.

Another problem of the HP bar is you still need to know the wave 2 layout in order to know where the next safe spot to retreat to is located.


A grace window would help but as I mentioned, the most elegant solution imho would be to relocate players to a safe spot the moment wave 2 spawns, probably best where wave 1 boss dies. The mechanic is already in game, couldn't they simply trigger a draw in on wave 1 boss kill?

So to be clear here, the problem is...

1.) I don't pay attention
2.) I can't crowd control mobs
3.) I can't see the UI of the game
4.) I don't know where the mobs spawn

So...it's SE's design problem, right?

It's a shared instance.
some player just go there to kill the boss stat and get out.
it's not a mpk, it's the coin of a shared area with a mechanic like that.
The proper thing should be to warp everyone at entrance / safe spot once the boss is dead so you start the wave 2 with no aggro

You can't mpk me! You can't!!!

Let's pretend you are correct. Let's pretend you have valid ideas of how to fix this issue. Let's pretend it isn't a skill issue.

What is the point in advocating for these changes here, on a fan forum zero Square Enix employees EVER read? Why wouldn't you instead post on the official forums?

This thread is pointless.

Cant say mass porting 1-30 or whatever chars to a spot is very elegant either. If there had to be some kind of change a 10~15 second mobilization style buff like DI would be it. Cant aggro anything, cant attack anything so gives you a small window to get yourself out of danger inbetween waves.

That all said its a non-issue imo

Considering the circumstances I think I crowd control just fine and I wouldn't complain if I'd die due to a mistake on my part like a miscalculated link. However, I have zero influence over when someone else decides to engage wave 1 boss or how fast he's going to kill it so it shouldn't create a potential death trap for me or anyone else in that zone.

I'm not the only one with this problem either, I've observed multiple people die from a unfortunate wave 2 spawn when I was fortunate enough to stand in a place where the pops were manageable. I've also seen people in LS chat complain about it.


Also the shared DynamisD version is primarily targeting lower skilled players which is indicated by the absence of wave 3.

I know the usual suspects can't help it and need to drop the snarky remarks about it being a skill issue, it's patholigcal at this point, but in this case it's pretty redundant.

Haven't visited the official site in ages cause I'd always get a certificate warning from antivirus and browser.

It's common consensus that english speaking requests and suggestions get ignored by default. If I get ignored over there anyway I might as well post it here.