Soloing HTMB Shinryu

I've been studying this thread, with particular interest for RDM/NIN. (Didn't want to necro bump it)

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/57887/shinryu-vd-solo-w-trusts/

I'm trying to work out what the TP sets used are here, looking at the videos posted by Wizardstick and Speedmaster. (They are in HD 1440p so the graphics are very clear.)

I'm trying to work out where they are getting Dual Wield +11 from. Assuming they are getting +11.

Both sets are slightly different, but I see Eabani earring in both, which gives DW +4. Then there could be DW + on the cape or DW +7 from the Reiki Yotai in waist slot. But that shares the same icon as O-Sash, which I thought would be used here. Even though it's a bit of a luxury item.

Neck pieces are different, but I'm guessing they are Anu's torque and Warder's Charm +1 respectively?

I see Aurgelmir orb +1, but I aint dropping 55M gil for that :p
I do have Coiste Bodhar R25 maxed though.

Anyone got any suggestions for the TP set on this fight? I seen the all gear thread where it does list O-Sash in waist, but keeps one earring and ring slot free I assume for DW + ?

EDIT: I'm thinking (for the gears I have) this set:

Crocea Mors / Bunzi's Rod (R15)
5/5 Malignance
Null Loop
Sherida / Eabani earrings
2x Chirich +1 rings
Reiki Yotai
RDM cape with either STP or DA.

This set gets DW +11 with -41 Damage taken.

No O-Sash here. And now would be the perfect time to get one, with the AH full of AMAN spoils and prices dropping.

First of all you need to decide if you wanna go for the magic route or the physical route. I found the magical is better but the physical (with Naegling) is so close I wouldn't say it's a big difference in the end.

Then you said "solo", you need to decide if it's really solo or if you have a mule providing buffs.
I'm asking this for the sake of capping haste/attack delay.
At the moment Cornelia is out, so you can do it easily with just her and Haste2. When Cornelia is not up you can't realistically do that without mules (and even with mules it's not exactly easy...)

Personally I have 2 sets:
One to use when Cornelia is available (just 10% DW from cape)
One to use when Cornelia isn't available (10% DW from cape and Suppa+Eabani for another 9%, this is to "compensate" for the lack my magic haste won't be capped)

The set I use is the following. Probably not BiS but worked good for me, I rarely ever failed a Shinryu VD run after my initial (and long) training made of failure. Granted that it's more a matter of Holy Waters I'd say, rather than TP set alone lol

ItemSet 396793

Now, as I said before swap the earrings if Cornelia isn't available, and that's it.
If you don't have Duelist+2 earring, I'd probably use Crepuscular Earring in there.

Either way, I mostly use Seraph Blade, keep all debuffs on the *** (can pull with sleep, then place all debuffs at start at your pleasure).

Bio3 vs Dia3:
If you're using magic setup, Dia3 won't offer a lot of benefits over Bio3, but most Shinryu's moves are magical so reducing his attack won't be a big benefit either.
Bio3 is more damage over time but lasts way less than Dia3, so I guess it's basically about that.
If you're going for Naegling and Savage Blade spam, of course you need to use Dia3 unquestionably.

The key to success imho is making sure you have lotsa DT/Meva in your WS set in case you get caught during that (but Nyame mostly solves that) and last but not least your Holy Water set.
Don't have to go crazy on it, I only Nicander's Necklace, Blenmot's Ring +1 and Purity Ring and the success rate is very high.

Make sure you have a macro/spell/something to apply TH4 on Shinryu, supposing it even works.


I gave up after ~500 fights on Shinryu, wish you good luck though!

I solo it everyday with killtime between 9 to 12 minutes depending on how many times he uses MG and wings up/down for half dmg.
Sanguine Blade + Crocea/Bunzi method is prob the most braindead, you just remain engaged and Sanguine Blade it to death, otherise Red Lotus Blade whenever u don't need heals it's stronger, specially at higher tp, but the fastest SOLO (no alts) kill i've seen was by Buukki, i'd ask him if you wanna get your cleartime lower than 9 minutes, he has a video on YT showcasing Red Lotus > Seraph SC + Stone V MBs and Seraph + Red Lotus + Fire V MB, when wings DT is not up, your bursts will do 25k dmg which adds up pretty quickly, but compared to other strats there are more variables to consider (you might end up interrupting SC sometimes to heal urself etc)
One thing i noticed which drastically reduced my Holy Water usage (like 4-6 used per run usually) was adding subtle blow with chirich rings+1 and bathy choker. I've also tried many times with or without Silence on it, since with Addle II without Silence he'll spend also more time casting rather than using TP moves, finally make sure to Dispel the regain after each Mighty Guard.
Many times with high m.eva you can just resist doom/impact etc tbh.

I don't like the Physical version cause I don't have Nitric Baselard to apply 18% extra def down and even if i had it I just feel the magicWS way is just easier since Sanguine Blade deals decent dmg and works so well. Magic burst on top of MagicWS is top imo, but prone to more risks.

Thanks for the advice guys.

When I said solo I meant using trusts. I don't have another account. I would use Cornelia (when available, like now) and other trusts that can't die like Brygid and that kitty kid etc.

I would follow the method in the videos. I'm thinking they are using Reiki Yotai (DW +7) when TPing and switching to O-Sash for the WSs? Can't see though, as same icon for each. I'm assuming that as they wouldn't need the Eabani earring if they went with DW +10 on cape?

Could try just using DW +10 from cape and TP in O-Sash, freeing up the earrings.

I'm not fussed about the fast time. Just need to be on right track with a win. This is the last HTMB I need to clear.

imho i prefer to use reiki+eabani vs dw+10 cape, reason being Null Cape 50 m.eva, accuracy, macc etc are very very good to help resist dooom/impact/para etc. I value that higher than gaining few extra marginal stats which could easily be invalidated by the need to use panaceas/remedy/holy waters more often.. but that's just me, I really like that I don't use nearly as many medicines anymore.

Yes btw O.Sash for WS and reiki, full malignance gives 26% haste but if you use ayanmo hands for tp (and Adamantite Armor if you put subtle blow in rings/neck) you'll need Alabaster Earring haste to cap XD tbh i tried so many diff sets, they're all kinda similar in terms of results more or less.. just choose one and while you keep killing it, you'll naturally lean towards one according to your playstyle preference

Also yeah trusts all passives: cornelia/moogle/brygid/star sybil/kuyin

Having max duration or close to max debuffs also helps a ton, you can open the fight with Sabo Sleep II and apply everything u want before engaging. I suggest applying Frazzle III first, as rarely without it some debuffs might get half duration resist,
I usually end up only needing to cast DIstract III, Addle ii few others once within 10-11 minutes, while Gravity/Para/slow tend to fall off 2 minutes before i kill it roughly. Remember that empyrean set bonus also increases debuff duration through Composure, and there's also merit category if really needed

My Comments from 2024 on this:

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/56102/new-htbf-shinryu-20/40/#3721707


In addition, I have found that dispelling Shinryu's Regain from Mighty Guard is meaningless, because he can use TP moves without TP. If you don't believe me, go in as /NIN and spam shadows while he's silenced. He'll use a TP move every 2-3 attack cycles, which isn't enough attacks to generate TP. Also, because of this, Subtle Blow doesn't do anything on Shinryu.

As far as him not using Doom move as frequently with Subtle Blow set; its completely random. I have had him use nothing but Doom 8 times in a row, daring me to remove the last one so he can use it again. I've seen runs where he's in wings up mode for the entire fight, which makes him die faster, and runs where he does nothing but MG spam and you can't hit him for anything but Enspell damage. What I mean to say is, his behavior is totally random and none of that subtle blow gear you use does anything, I'm almost positive.

I can't speak on resisting the stat down from Impact, because I silence Shinryu, so maybe that is resistable. (Actually, I can't see how you can resist the stat down from Impact either, it lands 100% of the time even on Sortie bosses that have resistance/immunity to Darkness element, but the stat down effects just is subject to duration resist tiers). I still don't see an advantage. You definitely can't resist the stat down from Atomic Ray.

I have two sets, one for with Cornelia, one without.

Pretty standard STP focused set, 4/5 Malignance, Bunzi Hat. I use DW earrings for +9% (Eabani+Suppa) and use a STP Cape. I use Orpheus's Sash + Ayanmo Gloves +2 with Crocea Mors-C, because for the majority of the fight, your main source of damage will be magical. Also, after Shinryu uses Mighty Guard, he will occasionally take 0 physical damage for upwards of a minute, so the additional enspell damage gear helps. I also TP in JSE Neck +2 for the additional Magic Accuracy I presume helps Enspell damage (maybe it doesn't, Anu might be better)

When Cornelia is down, I use a DW cape and also Carmine Legs +1 to cap attack delay. The fight is significantly slower when you only have 30% Haste.

Anyways, I don't think your TP set is far off from what I use, and it matters only a little. The bread and butter I have found for killspeed is to SC+MB Fire MB, but sometimes I am lazy and don't feel like SCing and I just spam Sanguine the entire time when Wings are down, and spam Red Lotus Blade when they are open. Fight is relatively easy, just stand behind him the entire fight, enfeeble, remove enfeebles on yourself, and spam sanguine. Dies in 10+min with low effort.