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By Asura.Warpy 2026-05-10 02:34:06
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I'm still confused about this new ??? item. Is this a guaranteed Matter from the chest or a 'chance' of getting the Matter?
Am I still able to do a 5th climb for a 6th chest? The wording suggests not. Still, 10 chests in 8 climbs is welcome but with less people doing the 5th climb.. the Temenos ??? may become very rare without people actively hunting the NM just for a 'possible' 3k Units. I've only ever hunted the NM once which I did find and kill but the ??? didn't appear at the kill spot. It appeared long after I killed it on a different floor.
Release the Lv 145 mobs with direct drops!
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By Dodik 2026-05-10 04:31:54
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It's a chest pop without you having to do a climb.

There are no guaranteed matters from chests beyond the very first climb you do. So no, not guaranteed.

Just a regular chest opening without a climb. Similar to the points you get from the ??? without a climb or killing anything.
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By LightningHelix 2026-05-10 05:16:44
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Asura.Sechs said: »
They should boost the Units from climbs by 50% too; not the one inside chest, the one you get from mobs, which is ~6k units per run at 135, it's preposterous.
Making so you get 9k instead of 6k pre-chest would be another step in the right direction.
And then release 140 which gives even more EP and Units.
Honestly, it's such a slog even at 119 that this would not be my preferred direction. Just lower the weekly cap and raise the units per individual chest.

The content is bad and my preferred mitigation if they can't change it (which takes actual developer time and I know that, so I do not expect large changes) is just "multiply rewards by X > 1 and reduce the weekly cap correspondingly."

Strongly agree that a free chest a week is a step in the right direction, but the problem is that the content just sucks. And I don't know how you fix that! It's such a slog and there's zero fun points!
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-10 06:09:59
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You can just not do 10(8) a week. You don't have to do the maximum allowable amount.

It's the maximum not the minimum.
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By Althor 2026-05-10 06:36:29
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but the problem is that the content just sucks. And I don't know how you fix that!

The answer is obvious and simple but no one ever likes it.

Don't do it.
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By LightningHelix 2026-05-10 06:57:11
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
You can just not do 10(8) a week. You don't have to do the maximum allowable amount.

It's the maximum not the minimum.
I am aware. In fact...
Althor said: »
LightningHelix said: »
but the problem is that the content just sucks. And I don't know how you fix that!

The answer is obvious and simple but no one ever likes it.

Don't do it.
I don't! I literally just hit the ???s and nothing else most weeks. Some weeks I tag along with other human beings when they're doing it because I know I actively care about accumulating Matters, but it's so tedious that I am never going to do it solo. Literally never.

And therefore my rate of augmenting armor is glacially slow! That's cool! Until there's
1) some not-godawful way to grind Matters - which this temporary item change is great for!
2) some not-godawful way to grind Units - I could just set up EasyFarm in a corner of Temenos where nobody goes, but that's using "you can just bot it" to apologize for bad content, which is dumb as hell
I basically just ignore their flagship "new content of 2025" except for checking on ???s every two days or so. I'm not doing an entire climb for an expected 0.5 of a Matter. Once I get to the point on a set of armor where units are the bottleneck instead, I won't do an entire climb for 6k units + a chest either. The reward is nowhere near the investment.

This change is great for me personally! It means I put the same amount of time into Limbus (ten minutes a week) and get infinity percent more of the rewards I care about (some Matter rather than none Matter)... but that's only highlighting how low my opinion is of this entire flagship "new content of 2025" in the first place!

edit: You know what, I'll be constructive too. Some examples of changes they could theoretically make, in no particular order:
-Levels 136-150+
-Like I already said, let you "use" 2+ clears at once. X times units, X times contents of final chest, X depletions of your weekly credits.
-Units/chest contents multiplier when wearing a full set of the Limbus armor or a ring with no stats or something equally dumb.
-Rewards from killing NMs that aren't just "another chest"
-Weekly/monthly RoEs to reward more on first chest opening/first bar fill on each floor/something else. They did this with Vagary, so it's already something they know exists.
-Matters in AMAN Trove. Doesn't solve Units, but at least it's a more useful piece of trash than half the trash they added in the last big change. This is disproportionately helpful to casual scum like me (but before you complain about gil, your AH slots are full anyway and you're tossing the trash footshards or whatever, be real, you're just chasing Crep Cloak like me)
-Random objectives like Omen.
-Fixed objectives like Sortie. (I think this is inferior to the Omen system and I wish Sortie had randomized objectives too. I am deranged.)
-Units/bar progress/chest contents multiplier when killing with the Limbus crafted weapons they said are coming soon (haha)
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By Felgarr 2026-05-10 07:15:28
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LightningHelix said: »
edit: You know what, I'll be constructive too. Some examples of changes they could theoretically make, in no particular order:
-Levels 136-150+
-Like I already said, let you "use" 2+ clears at once. X times units, X times contents of final chest, X depletions of your weekly credits.
This is a great idea. But, I think it would conflict with SE's ceiling for how your units cap increases everytime you open a chet.

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-Units/chest contents multiplier when wearing a full set of the Limbus armor or a ring with no stats or something equally dumb.
You are on the right track. Interacting with a Sortie Bitzer is more engaging than staring at Limbus progress bars or it's stupid long menus.

LightningHelix said: »
-Rewards from killing NMs that aren't just "another chest"
-Weekly/monthly RoEs to reward more on first chest opening/first bar fill on each floor/something else. They did this with Vagary, so it's already something they know exists.
I won't be doing Limbus for a long time at this rate. I think the entire Limbus climb should FEEL as fast as Nyzule and require as much thinking as Omen. That's it. Anything else in terms of gameplay just gets in the way.

LightningHelix said: »
-Matters in AMAN Trove. Doesn't solve Units, but at least it's a more useful piece of trash than half the trash they added in the last big change. This is disproportionately helpful to casual scum like me (but before you complain about gil, your AH slots are full anyway and you're tossing the trash footshards or whatever, be real, you're just chasing Crep Cloak like me)
-Random objectives like Omen.
I wouldn't mind a new orb, maybe a Jupiter Orb?

LightningHelix said: »
-Fixed objectives like Sortie. (I think this is inferior to the Omen system and I wish Sortie had randomized objectives too. I am deranged.)
Let's be real. I would take Nyzule's objectives or even Skirmish objectives placed onto Limbus, then what we currently have now.

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-Units/bar progress/chest contents multiplier when killing with the Limbus crafted weapons they said are coming soon (haha)
I just hate the progress bar, period. It's so frustrating to track, over so many floors. I think some folks even go so far as to ALMOST fill 2 bars per floor so they can piggyback 2 runs. I like the idea, but I imagine that SE would be surprised players have restored to that method. (Even if it's not actually faster, it "feels" like faster or less Limbus, and that's a win for everyone). :/
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By LightningHelix 2026-05-10 08:28:19
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Felgarr said: »
I think some folks even go so far as to ALMOST fill 2 bars per floor so they can piggyback 2 runs. I like the idea, but I imagine that SE would be surprised players have restored to that method. (Even if it's not actually faster, it "feels" like faster or less Limbus, and that's a win for everyone). :/
I can't decide what's worse, actually putting in the effort to do this or the fact that when I read it I was like "hmm, this is actually a really good idea because the longer grind is miserable either way and 50% of the time it'll be a lot shorter"

somebody translate this and send it in next time the devs take questions and just... let them read it
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By Althor 2026-05-10 09:27:08
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There's only one language these businesses speak, and it isn't English or Japanese.
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By Dodik 2026-05-10 09:36:07
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XI subscribers are down ~20% or so since this time in 2024 so..
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-10 09:40:41
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No it isn't. Nearly exactly the same. 74,837

https://web.archive.org/web/20250503054358/https://www.ffxiah.com/database 68,850 <2025
https://web.archive.org/web/20240407050942/https://www.ffxiah.com/database 68,870 <2024
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By Dodik 2026-05-10 09:47:10
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https://mmo-population.com/game/final-fantasy-xi

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Metric Value
Latest change May 2026 (post-seam) · +21.9%
Average change -2.6%
12-month high +29.4% (Aug 2025)
12-month low -65.2% (Jul 2025)
Months of data 12

May 2025 was kupon anniversary day. Highest of highs.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-10 09:50:08
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May 16th is during free login.

Happy 23rd Vana'versary! Return Home to Vana'diel and Discount Campaigns start today! (05/16/2025)

You cannot compare free login to not free login. (and obviously Mog-B doesn't *** count)
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By LightningHelix 2026-05-10 10:05:14
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Althor said: »
There's only one language these businesses speak, and it isn't English or Japanese.
I agree with this, but I do think each individual human being who actually works on FFXI cares about the FFXI experience.

Not like they care about each individual player, obviously. But to still work on FFXI in 2026 when you could instead be working on FFXIV at the same company... you have to care at least a little.
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By AegParm 2026-05-10 10:16:27
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Lol people giving solutions to content they dont play.

Units are not the problem. More units per chest and less chests is the wrong direction. Matters are a problem, shards are a problem (because no one plays the content to sell the shards). Decreasing the amount of chests you open is going to make that worse.

Units are basically free. I know 90% of you easyfarm mlvls, just do it in limbus.
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By Dodik 2026-05-10 10:32:10
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Average change -2.6%

That's month on month. ~-25% a year, cumulative, on average.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-10 10:35:03
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It doesn't account for free play starting next week. Youre not this stupid.

Remove the may free play/mog-B spikes the august freeplay and the december free play.
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By Dodik 2026-05-10 10:36:02
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Bro, do you know what average means?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-10 10:39:16
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I guess you are, I'll change the last post
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-05-10 10:45:41
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Don't forget that the website he linked is just using some garbage algorithm to estimate based on reddit posts or something. It says there were 4.5mil active players on May 28 last year. There's absolutely no basis for trusting it.
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By Asura.Mrbrightsighed 2026-05-11 10:52:23
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The new items "Apollyon Code" and "Temenos Code" are a 6th chest, not a part of the previous 5 weekly limit
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-11 11:17:18
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Funny, not how it was worded;
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We are adding a temporary item that enables you to open the treasure chests, thereby reducing the number of times needed to participate in the content in order to open them.
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By Asura.Toralin 2026-05-11 11:20:55
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friend reporting he did 5x climbs, then got the temp ki and was unable to open another chest
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-05-11 11:21:03
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"No, we just read what they wrote incorrectly. They "never said" they were reducing the number of climbs you needed to do!"

- which of you simps is gonna roll up in here with this^
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-05-11 11:23:46
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Asura.Toralin said: »
friend reporting he did 5x climbs, then got the temp ki and was unable to open another chest

So then it can't be both?

Asura.Mrbrightsighed said: »
The new items "Apollyon Code" and "Temenos Code" are a 6th chest, not a part of the previous 5 weekly limit

Unless they coded it in a weird way in that you have to use the KI before doing all your climbs. But from Mrb's comment, it would be an additional chest, so how does that work? (doesn't matter for me, i never complete 5+5 weekly)
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-11 11:27:45
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It would be on brand that you can get the KI and open a chest before getting your weekly 5, but be blocked from opening it if you already did your 5.

Thus the statement you get to open 4+1 freebie means you got to do 1 less, but you could also do freebie+5 if you do it in the right order.
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By Asura.Mrbrightsighed 2026-05-11 11:46:03
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I completed 4 runs yesterday, collected the ??? Apollyon Code today, used it and received this message implying I can still open one more chest. It's possible it's just a bug and won't let me open a chest, I'll follow up later after I complete a 5th run
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-05-11 11:47:20
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Damn, so then they covered all bases like 2001 Bonds at bat:(maybe, we will see)
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-05-11 11:58:51
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Are the runs still the monotous slogs of running up every single tower and killing a few enemies at each?
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By Dodik 2026-05-11 12:22:55
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Are the runs still the monotous slogs of running up every single tower and killing a few enemies at each?

Yes.
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