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The FFXI Adventurers' Survey 2024 is here!
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By smii 2024-11-11 08:30:04
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Square has put out a survey on the official page for us. It asks lots of questions and has A LOT of space to type. People should participate when they get a chance. I hope this gets some traction and people fill it out with constructive suggestions and ideas. http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

I suggested they adjust SMN to get hastega3 and make ifrits warcry not ***. So SMN can compete for a slot in 6 man content.

I also suggested a new NPC with a new sigent like buff that lets players opt-in to bonus EP gain and Locus mobs having a chance to pop Ascended versions that have varied positional requirements and NM mechanics that are easy enough to deal with but would wipe a bot party. I feel this would bring partying back, not just for the point but the social aspect it once had. It would also be great to see the bot farms getting Spike Flailed.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-11-11 09:01:31
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They ask a lot about login and monthly campaigns, so expect that to be the majority of their focus.

I asked that they do something about the exclusivity of D path nyame. It's very clear that going pets means all the rest of your jobs suffer greatly and that is not a great feeling.

Mostly reiterated that we want more battle content that is ilvl so there is a reason to use a Prime Weapon.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-11-11 09:03:39
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I want to see the results for #4.
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By Kaffy 2024-11-11 09:16:21
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They are doing something, most recent ban wave went out not long ago. It might not be enough by your measure, but I'm sure they're aware of the extent of the problem and dealing with it as they see fit.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-11-11 09:21:11
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There are more bots right this minute on one server, than the entire amount of all bots banned across all servers each month.

That is 0/10 effectiveness.
(I know why, it's not a secret, it's still regoddamndiculous)
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By Dodik 2024-11-11 09:21:38
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I find it highly ironic that the biggest botters around are also the biggest complainer about botting.

Careful what you ask for, peeps.
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By Ovalidal 2024-11-11 10:00:53
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smii said: »
I suggested they adjust SMN to get hastega3 and make ifrits warcry not ***. So SMN can compete for a slot in 6 man content.

I also suggested a new NPC with a new sigent like buff that lets players opt-in to bonus EP gain and Locus mobs having a chance to pop Ascended versions that have varied positional requirements and NM mechanics that are easy enough to deal with but would wipe a bot party.

I think this is great feedback. I also asked for job balancing, particularly pet jobs. I'm curious to see how people answer when they discuss the results later this month.
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By Asura.Sechs 2024-11-11 10:01:37
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What we need in my opinion on the long run, not tomorrow, but sometimes in the next year(s)

1) New battle content (some small things like BCNMs, Princess Peach etc, but ideally even something big like Sortie)

2) Job Balancements (don't really need a lot imho)

3) QoL stuff to improve accessibility to content that is now old, and/or additional motivations for players who are already done with the content, to occasionally take part in it with players that are new to it.

4) Adjustments to sortie: Add conditions to compress the runs by making them shorter (30 mins?) but same galli. Make entry KI storable like Omen. Introduce an earring exchange system.

5) More EP camps, also give some QoL boons to EP (make the chains timers regular like old chains would be #1 prio change, but also stuff like reducing the amount of lost EP per kill as you level up, and introduce new means to slightly boost EP per kill, atm we only have Corsair Roll)
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By Ragnarok.Vargasfinio 2024-11-11 10:55:08
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Submitted. We will see if it falls on deaf ears or not. I tried to focus on current balance as I think that is generally "easier" for current development goals but I also stressed that enfranchised players are always seeking new things to do (even if they aren't grand additions). I would love to see a second weaponskill rebalancing pass take place. There is no reason to restrict skillchain / party composition based on using the same weaponskills over and over in 2024. Give players a reason to use more of them.

I think that there is a lot of low hanging fruit content that could be added for these players. Making the Mog Bonanza weaponskills be unlockable via some sort of process or even just making more "old school" gear be available at 119+ level via some new BCNMs would be easy enough to do.

While I would love to see another addition like TVR added to the game, I don't think that is very likely at this point. TVR felt like an actual adventure like old expansions did and gave tangible and usable rewards throughout.
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By Atrox78 2024-11-11 11:03:24
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Ragnarok.Vargasfinio said: »
Submitted. We will see if it falls on deaf ears or not. I tried to focus on current balance as I think that is generally "easier" for current development goals but I also stressed that enfranchised players are always seeking new things to do (even if they aren't grand additions). I would love to see a second weaponskill rebalancing pass take place. There is no reason to restrict skillchain / party composition based on using the same weaponskills over and over in 2024. Give players a reason to use more of them.

I think that there is a lot of low hanging fruit content that could be added for these players. Making the Mog Bonanza weaponskills be unlockable via some sort of process or even just making more "old school" gear be available at 119+ level via some new BCNMs would be easy enough to do.

While I would love to see another addition like TVR added to the game, I don't think that is very likely at this point. TVR felt like an actual adventure like old expansions did and gave tangible and usable rewards throughout.

Mogbonanza ws is a total of one and no one really cares about it. Would rather the make the weapons obtainable through other means and just make rank 1 the rema of your choosing like back in the day. None of those weapons are first or even 3rd best in a y category. Honestly the only one worth.two shits is the katana for nin tanks (maybe onion too. No ideal what that can do).

The ws wall is in place to make people skillchain more. If it wasn't there it would just be savage blade 24/7 more then ut is now. Not sure what point you're trying to get across honestly unless you're saying people should be able to torcleaver > torcleaver = light (as an example) and the wall prevents that.
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By Asura.Hya 2024-11-11 11:10:59
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Unfortunately they're probably going to get inundated with garbage feedback. It'll be a bunch of people who haven't played in 10+ years requesting a remake, an offline version, console port, or some other unreasonable and out of touch desire. Like Iocus pointed out, there's an emphasis on Login rewards and Adventurer Campaigns, to which I expressed a desire to see rewards that are relevant to veterans in the former, and revamp of dead/useless events in the latter. I don't have high hopes.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-11-11 11:15:54
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Dodik said: »
I find it highly ironic that the biggest botters around are also the biggest complainer about botting.

Careful what you ask for, peeps.
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By Bosworth 2024-11-11 12:08:07
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I filled it out in the hopes we get more battle content. Hell, I'd be happy even with just getting more HTMBs and more battles like Peach Power. Just...something
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-11-11 12:08:24
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Yeah they have a Q where you get to pick 3 of what you'd like to see them work on but it's after both monthly questions.

I assume thay if they weighted them equally, then we'll see as much development in that category as we assume it takes effort to do monthly logins and campaigns each. Which is to say not a terribly large amount.

It's nice to be asked. It's nice to have 2 different freeform response sections. It will be interesting what makes it into the video correspondence they'll do later this month about the next years road map.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-11-11 12:21:06
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I just hope everyone's remembering to mention how disconnected the English community seems to be from the developers. I was honestly kind of surprised to see the survey even mentioned on our side of the FFXI official site, and half-assed translations and weird issues with only the English version have become an expected part of the update cycle. We've just grown to accept that we might get a scrap of information in the middle of a two hour content everybody was bored with when they did it livestream, or we might hear somebody show up with a little bit of information they translated themselves while watching a Freshly Picked Vana'diel video. JP forum's got a forever-long Q&A thread that's seen engagement from a community rep this actual calendar month, while we've seen non-crisis comments maybe three times this decade.
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By GetHelpNerd 2024-11-11 12:25:23
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SE ticking a box with these
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2024-11-11 12:34:31
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I just completed the survey, and based on the flow of the questions, I feel like this is completely in bad faith, and they already have an idea of what they already plan to do, but want to give players a "chance" to express their opinions on things (which totally does not matter to them), while including things about Login Points/campaigns etc. So that when any number of players select those options as what they want to see implemented, they can say "SEE, WE ARE ACTING ON WHAT YOU REQUESTED". I have no belief that they did this to actually solicit good feedback and act on it, more of a show of transparency. meh

Said a few days ago:

Felgarr said: »
Kaffy said: »
Just hope the survey has some good questions

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I think the history of SE's surveys has always been the same:

"Here's a bunch of options to give you, the players, the illusion of choice, but in reality, the outcome has already been decided. In fact, we've already implemented and tested these changes, so your input will have no impact whatsoever. In the most basic sense, we provide this survey as merely a placebo effect, to reinforce your desire to keep giving us money. Please enjoy it."
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2024-11-11 12:49:07
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I know it's just wishful thinking but I suggested adding the following KIs to large gold Pyxis in abyssea

"Torn Khimaira Wing",
"Steaming cerberus tongue",
"Venomous hydra fang",
"Bloodstained bugard fang"
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By Odin.Odessyus 2024-11-11 12:52:45
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Fenrir.Zenion said: »
JP forum's got a forever-long Q&A thread that's seen engagement from a community rep this actual calendar month, while we've seen non-crisis comments maybe three times this decade.

Did you notice anything notable said in the Q&A thread? If you have it handy, do you mind sharing the link to it?
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By Asura.Iamaman 2024-11-11 12:52:59
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Asura.Hya said: »
It'll be a bunch of people who haven't played in 10+ years requesting a remake, an offline version, console port, or some other unreasonable and out of touch desire.

This is exactly what will happen and it's done by people who don't understand why it won't happen or that would actually play it if it was done. The subreddit is full of this type of suggestion and anyone with a level head trying to explain that we should focus on achievable goals gets downvoted into oblivion by the lvl75-iz-best thumpers
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By Kaffy 2024-11-11 13:15:04
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I choose to be somewhat optimistic while keeping expectations in line with what we know about the resources available to Fujito right now. I'm sure there are several ideas for a wide range of things they'd like to work on, but simply don't have the time or money to do so. Hopefully the survey will help guide some of these choices.

I do wonder who is responsible for collecting and translating all the comments, though. I can't imagine that process is very robust on FFXI's budget.
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By smii 2024-11-11 13:18:29
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I'm sure they'll get plenty of pipe dream ideas from people, but if enough people ask for enough of the same~ish thing maybe something happens. Everyone should ask for some QoL or copypasta'd to 119 content, anything. We all know we want ***, we all talk about the same topics in discord.

They opened a line of communication, they're asking. I say throw ***at the wall and see what, if anything sticks. Because nobody saw race changes due to political climate in America in their magic 8 balls.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2024-11-11 13:22:13
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smii said: »
but if enough people ask for enough of the same~ish thing maybe something happens.


inb4 flood of people asking for Cheese Sandwich PLUS TWO because internet
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By smii 2024-11-11 13:33:34
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Fenrir.Richybear said: »
inb4 flood of people asking for Cheese Sandwich PLUS TWO because internet

For what it's worth, we have hog and pig monsters in the game but no bacon.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-11-11 13:34:51
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Odin.Odessyus said: »
Fenrir.Zenion said: »
JP forum's got a forever-long Q&A thread that's seen engagement from a community rep this actual calendar month, while we've seen non-crisis comments maybe three times this decade.

Did you notice anything notable said in the Q&A thread? If you have it handy, do you mind sharing the link to it?

The last big question answered was just "does the new Ambuscade campaign stack with Abdhaljs Seal" since there was apparently some contradictory messaging there, but even that is more than we'd ever see answered.

Take a look via Google Translate
if you're interested in digging around for other tidbits though.
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By Shichishito 2024-11-11 13:59:35
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The most reasonable thing we should collectively do is to finally demand the overdue chigoe mount.
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By Taint 2024-11-11 14:25:05
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These would be a fun addition and let people work on their sets/SCs etc.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Striking_Dummy
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By Bahamut.Zedoma 2024-11-11 14:33:49
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My wishlist.

Login points:
Odin's Sleipnir as a mount.
Club used by Uran-Mafran in TVR.
Red Ragnarok used by Gloom Phantom in TVR.

Job adjustment:
Reduce the recast time of all ten minute merit abilities to five.
Allow for Accession Haste.

Future changes:
Campaign battles to 99
119 Sagasinger
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-11-11 14:34:01
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Shichishito said: »
The most reasonable thing we should collectively do is to finally demand the overdue chigoe mount.

With race changes supposedly in the works I think it's high time we push for a race-exclusive mounts. Three-Tarutaru-In-A-Trenchcoat is pretty obvious. Mithra race-exclusive mount just rotates their model 90 degrees forward and creates a rainbow particle effect over their legs. Elvaan don't get a mount, they just float around in a mounted pose clapping coconut shells together. Humes get carried around by a Galka. Galka get a stick extending in front of their head with some jerky tied to it, and just run at mount speed while ignored by mobs.

(Sad part is this might be one of the least ridiculous ridiculous things to ask for because this sounds like something they'd actually do for an April Fools' faux update.)
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By Lili 2024-11-11 14:58:34
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smii said: »
Fenrir.Richybear said: »
inb4 flood of people asking for Cheese Sandwich PLUS TWO because internet

For what it's worth, we have hog and pig monsters in the game but no bacon.

What are you on about, we totally have cut of porxie pork.

Fenrir.Zenion said: »
Elvaan don't get a mount, they just float around in a mounted pose clapping coconut shells together. Humes get carried around by a Galka. Galka get a stick extending in front of their head with some jerky tied to it, and just run at mount speed while ignored by mobs.

I laughed out loud
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