Unsolved Mysteries Of Vana'diel

haha, he was just chililng in the sky! I totally forgot that part of 5-3.

After asking the question, I realized that I might have just misinterpreted the ine I'm quoting. He could literally have meant "he showed up, unleashed terrifying power on the Yagudo, and then everyone was glad that he left instead of also flattening Windurst" - like they were glad to stop seeing him because he was not about to kill them all...

...but yeah, actually, that dialog from Grav'iton makes it pretty clear that Fenrir was specifically prevented from running wild (possibly Abyssea-style where there are just the roaming Avatars?) by the Horutoto Ruins

Fenrir is best boi and you'd be upset either if they locked you down in a well to turn your energy into mana to use in their city

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This brings to mind that both the Kuluu and Zilart were versed in containing god-like beings via different methods.

The Kuluu did Horutoto and Pso'Xja, while The Zilart made the Protocrystals.

Pso'Xja even used to have level restriction in most of it. A nod to nullification of power of what resides inside.

Unsolved Mysteries of Vana’diel, would Robert Stack to 12 or 99?

I don't know why, but this kinda reminds me that Bahamut (seemed to have) reverted to his original animal form while he and Selh'teus were stuck in Al'Taieu. I don't know what animal he was before being Bahamut, but the idea of Bahamut as a random lizard, stuck in an an Al'Taieu terrarium is kinda funny.

Legitimate question, does the game ever tell us where the Star of Tavnazia came from? IIRC, it's a piece of Emptiness magicite that was found in the Baptismal Box in the northlands. But do we know anything else about it?

Cavity searches all around.

Sometimes he just has the zoomies!

Iirc, Prishe refers to it as being partially responsible for what lead The Shadowlord to Odin. And Shikaree Z knows it's what drove The Northlands Expedition to insanity.

I don't think there's an exact origin given to it in game, but if I had to hazard a guess, I'd imagine that it is magicite born from when the Kuluu destroyed The Ark of Vahzl, after all, all other magicite shown in game forms in the pools beneath fractured pipes of The Crystal Line.

So an entire Ark blown to kingdom come. Whatever remained of the energy it was funneling, soaked in that viscous black ooze, that tar of the mother crystals... That coalesced into the black magicite that is The Star of Tavnazia.

What do you think it says that all GM can only be human, from a lore perspective.

Are they supposed to be Zilart?

I must have missed this. When was Bahamut ever trapped anywhere?

Wasn't the Star of Tavnazia a part of the one we found in the Snoll mission of CoP? Im also pretty sure that it was explained that it was Odin's Proto-Crystal like the other Celestrial Avatars.

They were trapped in Al'Taieu between the meltdown and the beginning of CoP.


While it was found in the northlands, it wasn't part of Odin's protocrystal. The beastmen did carry it to where Odin's protocrystal was destroyed though.

Where did it say either of these things?

Bahamut and Selh'teus were trapped in Al'Taieu
CoP 8-2: Selh'teus was talking about how he and Yve'noile essentially both took the Emptiness and died with it to keep Promathia from reaching it. Nag'molada also states in a previous cutscene that the Terrestrials revert to their original form as beasts if they were to enter Al'Taieu. There are about a thousand disclaimers here because this is CoP after all, but this is the crux of it.


The Star of Tavnazia and Odin's protocrystal
For this, there is a lot of dialogue in the cutscene, so here is the link if you're wanting to dig into the topic a bit more. The notable scene starts at the 14:30 mark. You also get to see Odin's protocrystal in CoP 6-1, and it's a whole lot bigger than the icicle Prishe carries around.

Yeah it's not explicit exactly why, but you need to be able to sing both, "Memoria de S^tona" as well as having the Star of Tavanazia magicite in order to wake a sleeping god. (at least I don't remember an explicit rationale)

You find it after the Snoll fight, because after the beastmen succeeded in waking Odin, destroying his protocrystal, they just left it there where it sank under the ice.

I know this has been a closed case for quite some time, but while looking for a Radial Arcana post, I saw this and wanted to chime in.

The Moblins are searching for the Iron Colossus (Alexander's old body). Probably the weirdest conflict in the game is between the Moblins and the Kindred. A certain moblin wanting to spread the religion of Promathia to the other beastmen can't, because the Kindred rule over them. The Kindred worship Odin, and so, they don't like that a moblin missionary is trying to get the Orcs, Qudav, and Yagudo to worship Promathia instead.

The conflict between Moblins and Demons is over one race worshiping Promathia and the other worshiping Odin, two deities one would assume to be somewhat similar. The Moblins learn that Odin "fears/hates" the Iron Giant. Because the Moblin military is nothing compared to the Kindred forces, the Moblins continue their search for the Iron Giant in the hope that it will destroy the Kindred's "false god (Odin)". This would free the Moblins to spread the religion of Promathia to the other beastmen races.