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By Shichishito 2024-09-15 17:05:06
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Dhartok (basement boss E)

WAR ~5 minutes:SAM ~12 minutes:SCH ~12 minutes:BLU magic ~14 minutes:MNK ~20 minutes:DRG ~23 minutes:BLU melee ~26 minutes:

Triboulex (basement boss G)

SCH ~6 minutes:

These are all jobs I could find. Feel free to post examples if you find a solo on a job that isn't listed yet or of listed jobs that finished significantly faster or did a different strategy than shown.

I'm surprised RDM isn't among them. Does Dhartok have too high dark resist so frazzle and distract doesn't land or did simply no one bother to make a video?
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By Nariont 2024-09-15 18:46:24
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Frazzle is very difficult to land iirc, distract isnt usually an issue, id imagine its plenty doable, just as you said noones put a vid out for it
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By Asura.Shiraj 2024-09-15 18:53:18
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G is soloable by SCH
I think this guy does A/E/C/G solo runs?
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By Shichishito 2024-09-15 19:23:15
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Asura.Shiraj said: »
G is soloable by SCH
I think this guy does A/E/C/G solo runs?
So the BGwiki info about setting the stage dealing 30k divided by targets every 3 minutes is miss information?

Triboulex seems to do the move 3 minutes in but it only drops him and his trusts into yellow.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-09-15 19:51:35
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He's probably spamming light damage on it (looks like maybe cures?)

Every instance of light damage reduces the damage of setting the stage by some amount (500, or 1k). This resets when he uses it, so you need to do it again for the next STS.

Maybe the light helix damage tics count, though I would doubt it. He's probably just spamming a bunch of light elemental damage, through his spells and/or trusts.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2024-09-15 19:55:05
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He uses Rapture Cure 4 + Luminiohelix, does similar for C boss.

Edit: His 4 boss solo run - 26k~ Galli:
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By Shichishito 2024-09-15 20:23:26
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What I found noteworthy in the SCH solo was that he meleed him from behind but eventually got charmed at 29:45 when the Esurient Botulus HP was still well above 50%. Trusts disappeared and he consequently had to nuke rest of the way while botulus was facing him, he still got the chest and KI.

He also didn't seem to get any links on pull so that you could explain it with consumed flans that healed botulus back over 50% mark. The "Vanquish Esurient Botulus with a majority of damage coming from Weapon Skills performed from behind it." can't be the full full story.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-09-15 21:36:46
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I've never found the "majority of damage coming from behind" claim to be dubious. I think it has to do with the person tanking Botulus holding hate on it for a certain amount of time / % of his HP.

It's definitely not well-understood.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-09-15 22:31:47
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I think the Botulus is don't kill it super fast with significant SC damage. Or something else that qualifies while you're doing that.


RDM/dnc can solo E with Crocea by doing rlb > seraph blade > burning blade > shining blade to avoid WS wall and bursting earth and fire in between. You have to stymie frazzle if you want the extra magic evasion down for bursting. Bring extra antidotes and remedies in case.

I don't remember the clear time for the boss, but I would clear A, Botulus, and E with more than 30 minutes left. Do the Aurum up top and then leave since everything else didn't really add significant galli to the run. It's significantly easier if Cornelia is available since she can't die. I haven't done this solo run at all in 2024 so additional details with be vague.
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By Seun 2024-09-15 23:46:47
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I've done CAE and lesser NMs on SCH. Nets right around 20k galli, but can be +/- due to random amounts rewarded by lesser NMs. If you've got the freedom in your schedule, you can use day bonus to your advantage. Enter toward the end of Firesday for bonus vs Skomora, then kill Ghatjot and Dhartok on Earthsday.


Phoenix.Iocus said: »
Do the Aurum up top and then leave since everything else didn't really add significant galli to the run.


The group of fomor are probably the best use of the remainder of the time. Various chest, casket and coffer for defeating them in order with 4 step skillchains.

Could also go to C, reset the mobs, grab the chest from the entrance to G and kill the Bhoot again.
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By Shichishito 2024-09-16 08:31:24
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Asura.Shiraj said: »
He uses Rapture Cure 4 + Luminiohelix, does similar for C boss.

Edit: His 4 boss solo run - 26k~ Galli:
He even links a whole room of undead and whipes once but still recovers.

One odd thing I noticed is while he buffs for triboulex at 53:05 he antacids, uses what seems to be a angler stewpot but then antacids again and uses a marine stewpot.
They both provide HP so you can see the stats from AoE foods don't stack on trusts. The 90 extra HP might explain why he went for the marine stewpot right after but since he doesn't melee and considering setting the stage only drops both him and trusts to yellow it seems he could get away with just a tropical crepe.

Since light damage reduces setting the stage damage, do all sources count? Dia, enlight from /run, seraph and shining blade, BLU magic? Does the damage also matter or just the fact it was light damage?

Got to count how many light nukes he lands, maybe other jobs could solo him easier than dhartok.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-09-16 09:07:03
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Shichishito said: »
Since light damage reduces setting the stage damage, do all sources count? Dia, enlight from /run, seraph and shining blade, BLU magic? Does the damage also matter or just the fact it was light damage?

No. Yes, no, yes, yes, yes. No.

I checked some notes from back then, looks like -500 per instance. If you want it to do < 2k per character and you have 6 targets, that's 36 nukes within the 3 minute timer.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-09-16 09:09:55
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https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/60960
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It is possible to decrease the damage done by Setting the Stage by repeatedly dealing light-based damage. Note that autoattack-based damage does not count towards this amount.
He will use the ability at set intervals, but once his behavior changes he will also use it at certain HP thresholds, so be conscious of when you are bringing him down below those thresholds.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-09-16 09:19:01
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/60960
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Triboulex
It is possible to decrease the damage done by Setting the Stage by repeatedly dealing light-based damage. Note that autoattack-based damage does not count towards this amount.
He will use the ability at set intervals, but once his behavior changes he will also use it at certain HP thresholds, so be conscious of when you are bringing him down below those thresholds.

Note this part isn't true anymore, since HM Triboulex is no longer in the game.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-09-16 10:43:38
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I was citing the source of where knowledge of the light damage came from. That wasnt discovered by the players.
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By Shichishito 2024-09-16 11:49:16
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Assume he's using the 3 tanks august, valaineral and rughadjeen primarily for flash and rughadjeen maybe also for holy circle. Wonder if Ingrid would be a viable option to replace one of the tanks or if she'd get cought in a cursna loop in a attempt to cure haunted.

Since it's timed, has anyone attempted to divine emblem + holy for the amnesia effect to see if it prevents setting the stage from going off?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-09-16 12:16:03
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
I was citing the source of where knowledge of the light damage came from. That wasnt discovered by the players.

That's fine, I wasn't trying to imply you were wrong in any way, just pointing that out in case some blissfully unaware newb came in (now or in the future) and was questioning what the last clause was all about; I was trying to avoid confusion/further questions.

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Since it's timed, has anyone attempted to divine emblem + holy for the amnesia effect to see if it prevents setting the stage from going off?

It might prevent it for the duration of the amnesia (likely reduced by NM enfeebling duration reduction) but if it's anything like Vivisection, it will use it the first chance it gets after Amnesia wears off. Could buy you an extra ~10 seconds (maybe) but unlikely to significantly prolong the fight. Also interested to hear if anyone has a chance to experiment with this. Would require precise timing of your fight to know if it worked or not. Can you see the "amnesia effect wears off"?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-09-16 12:22:58
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
it will use it the first chance it gets after Amnesia wears off.

This would be my guess, if it were just coded to try at an exact time it'd also be interrupted if the mob were idle or in the middle of another TP. It seems more likely that it gets flagged/queued after 3 minutes, and it uses it as soon as possible after that.
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By Shichishito 2025-01-05 21:13:34
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I had a couple of screwed up runs and used the time for expermenting.

First run vs Esurient Botulus I did in melee range, positioned behind him with amchuchu tanking. Did maybe 1 or 2 SC + MB with chain and burst affinity, rest of the DMG consisted of some weaponskills but the majority was magic spell dmg, got the chest.

Second run I did same trust setup, also positioned behind the botulus, opened with 1 SC + MB then distanced myself at around max BLU spell range (~15) and did the rest of the DMG exclusively with magical BLU spells. I think I was still aligned behind him even after distancing but didn't get the chest.

BGwiki states you need to do majority of DMG with weaponskills form behind in order to get the Esurient Botulus chest.
This doesn't seem to be the case, at least not on BLU.

Wiki also mentioned the killing blow needs to be a WS from behind while I'm somewhat sure I've finished Botulus with a BLU spell befor (magic dmg) and still got chest.


I suspect distance does play a role simply because I believe SE finds it funny to troll players with charm. Maybe a single weaponskill, a number of weaponskills or a skillchain done with something other than SCH immanence is also part of the condition.

Amchuchu could have added to a weaponskill counter but I doubt he did many. Even if he did it can't be the deciding factor since he also tanked during second run.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-01-05 22:03:23
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If the wiki says it needs to be KILLED with a weaponskill, that's been long disproven. I hope someone corrects it.

Shichishito said: »
BGwiki states you need to do majority of DMG with weaponskills form behind in order to get the Esurient Botulus chest.
This doesn't seem to be the case, at least not on BLU.

If your meaning by this is the stipulation of Weaponskills, i'd agree. I think the majority of the community has come to the conclusion that it's simply "A majority of damage dealt to the Botulus must be from behind it" and that was simply most easily achieved through Leaden Salute so most groups replicated it that way. I have also seen BLU's get the chest through casting from behind.

This is mostly a failing on the Wiki, since most active editors have stepped away at this point.
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By Shichishito 2025-01-06 12:50:22
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Did another run today, unfortunately amchuchu died to botulus so ate dirt on purpose for hate reset but botulus went back to spawn which unfortunately was behind the gate that eventually closes.
Left basement and went back in a little later cause I figured I could farm KI for next run. Did pretty much the same as last time where I got chest, only difference is I switched tank trust to AAEV. Didn't get chest.

Is gate closing and returning to basement a known criteria to lose chest pop?
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By Veydal1 2025-01-06 13:01:43
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I'm glad this topic is being brought up again as it could helpful for soloers to understand how to get this chest.

I'm in the boat with others that have mentioned enmity playing a role in some way. In the times I've pulled hate from tank, even after doing over 50% of dmg from behind with weaponskills, I do not get the chest. It was Savage Blade spam, so no SCs. No other people WSing, etc. Anyone else experience this? Without fail, if I pull hate, I do not get chest. And it's not like I'm doing 51%, I'm talking 60%+ from behind with no SCs. Maybe at least 1 SC is required?

Would love to hear other people's feedback. Understanding this metal requirement would certainly help with solo efforts.
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By Shichishito 2025-01-06 13:26:39
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I'm not 100% sure on this but I think I've pulled hate befor, made sure trust tank got time to regain it and ended up still getting chest.
However, if tank dies or if I have hate during killing blow I never see chest. Take my statements with a grain of salt though, I don't have that many solo E basement runs on my record yet.

*Edit*
I also mostly avoid physical WS like savage or expiacion outside of gaining aftermath and chain affinity skillchains. I either do sanguine blade or flash nova cause of the reduced hate gain of magical WS.
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By Shichishito 2025-01-06 14:56:08
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Found a video of marutai doing esurient botulus. He goes to town with savage blade and eventually pulls hate of AAEV, then he proceeds to stun him a couple of times with sudden lunge in order to run behind him and unload WS. at around 7 minutes he finishes botulus off with a savage blade -> chain affinity thrashing assault = light while having hate and WS from the front, he still gets the chest.

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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-01-06 17:52:23
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Veydal1 said: »
I'm glad this topic is being brought up again as it could helpful for soloers to understand how to get this chest.

I'm in the boat with others that have mentioned enmity playing a role in some way. In the times I've pulled hate from tank, even after doing over 50% of dmg from behind with weaponskills, I do not get the chest. It was Savage Blade spam, so no SCs. No other people WSing, etc. Anyone else experience this? Without fail, if I pull hate, I do not get chest. And it's not like I'm doing 51%, I'm talking 60%+ from behind with no SCs. Maybe at least 1 SC is required?

Would love to hear other people's feedback. Understanding this metal requirement would certainly help with solo efforts.

We've definitely had the tank lose hate and still get the chest.

I've also done runs without a tank (8 boss) and had it bounce between players. If the player pulled hate they simply stopped WSing while it was facing them. Still got the chest.

I'd question if you're CERTAIN you did 50%+ from behind, because it can get hairy/confusing at times. Theres plenty of times where he is not facing a player, but is aggroed to that player due to animation lock/casting and I'm not sure how exactly that plays out with the chest mechanic.
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By Asura.Chaostaru 2025-01-06 18:58:43
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magic ws are so nice on that red blob. can pop off 99k into 99k SC and it'll still be on the trust tank.
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By Veydal1 2025-01-06 21:10:26
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Veydal1 said: »
I'm glad this topic is being brought up again as it could helpful for soloers to understand how to get this chest.

I'm in the boat with others that have mentioned enmity playing a role in some way. In the times I've pulled hate from tank, even after doing over 50% of dmg from behind with weaponskills, I do not get the chest. It was Savage Blade spam, so no SCs. No other people WSing, etc. Anyone else experience this? Without fail, if I pull hate, I do not get chest. And it's not like I'm doing 51%, I'm talking 60%+ from behind with no SCs. Maybe at least 1 SC is required?

Would love to hear other people's feedback. Understanding this metal requirement would certainly help with solo efforts.

We've definitely had the tank lose hate and still get the chest.

I've also done runs without a tank (8 boss) and had it bounce between players. If the player pulled hate they simply stopped WSing while it was facing them. Still got the chest.

I'd question if you're CERTAIN you did 50%+ from behind, because it can get hairy/confusing at times. Theres plenty of times where he is not facing a player, but is aggroed to that player due to animation lock/casting and I'm not sure how exactly that plays out with the chest mechanic.

I can confirm with 100% certainty. There's definitely something more to it than just doing the majority of damage from behind. In my scenario it was a solo run with a tank trust and me on WAR. It didn't turn until well past 50% mark. I purposefully avoided SCs.

I've also done runs in groups where someone would take hate, but the chest still drops. So maybe it isn't enmity related, but just a matter of doing the majority of damage from behind AND doing at least one skillchain? Can anyone confirm if they've gotten chest without doing a skillchain? I think next time I give it a shot, I will take the same approach but perform at least one SC.
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