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By RadialArcana 2025-02-27 06:01:39
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The western video game industry pushed progressive politics so hard onto gamers and it has become so obnoxious and blatant, that they have created a zero tolerance pushback against them. Now things that used to be ok, are not.

Also Square Enix need to stop pandering to western values and get back to making great games for their audiences, China gonna eat their lunch and steal their fanbase away.

I haven't been excited for a FF game for a long time, and this Chinese game is hitting the perfect FF aesthetic and looks like it has really good gameplay too.

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By Afania 2025-02-27 06:53:12
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RadialArcana said: »
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games from other countries with less censorship than China

Mecha Break, made in China has so many players that Xbox just dropped all their previous moralizing and paid cash money for exclusive console rights to keep it off ps5 for a year.

Here is a scene from Mecha Break, if you hit the Ejection seat from the mech. If they bounced any harder they would break the monitor.

You are satisfied way too easily if boob physics covered clothes is good enough for you.

Here is real Chinese censorship on boobs:
https://censorship.fandom.com/wiki/Genshin_Impact

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Rosaria's breast size was reduced in patch 1.4.

In the patch 2.4 the new censored alternate Jean costume was introduced, where her cleavage was covered up.

In the patch 2.4 the new censored alternate Amber costume was introduced, where her cleavage was slightly covered up.

In patch 2.4 the new censored alternate Rosaria costume was introduced, the breast size was reduced further, and her pants now cover her tights covering all of her legs.

Chinese server censorship:
All international censorship applies.

When gliding, if the camera angle is adjusted to look up a character's skirt, the model will fade out so that panties are no longer visible.

Chinese isn't your friend if you like ***.

At least western government doesn't ban naked woman in games, see Witcher series or cyberpunk 2077 etc. No boobs are censored in those games.

You are being double standard here.
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By Afania 2025-02-27 07:27:15
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
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If you tell me people can't write female scientists, tomboys, white male villain, innocent orcs or bad religions in their story because that is "woke", you deserve an iron fist.
I don't think anyone would care if people write about any of these if there wasn't a clear trend that western writers had started to exclusively write about these that coincided with the same shift in every other mass media and a massive culture war. Like you said, nobody had any complaints about white male villains in the 80s, and there were plenty of them. Same goes for female scientists.

Obviously there's a degree of preperception involved. You can't look at any one of these games and decide it's bad because of the race/gender choices. Instead, people have observed that western games use these design choices to signal their ideology. Developers with that ideology baked into their product tend to use shitty writing to further underscore the ideology. I would argue that the
issue isn't the female poc lead or the young white male villain, it's that when I see a few of these design choices in the same game I expect the game to be a dumpster fire trying to preach at me[and it usually is].

Nobody cares about anime games using white female scientists, because the issue isn't the scientist and there's a reasonable assumption that as an anime game it's not full of woke ***. Anime/eastern media have used powerful females for decades. On the other hand, an anime that put a POC front and center in a setting that didn't call for it would be setting off the same flags because it is not part of their typical culture/design.



What I meant is, although I agree that there are a few "woke" entertainment story that's entering the territory of being
ridiculous (some example includes Netflix's Cleopatra controversy), I think both sides has entered the territory of being hypersensitive on how a story should be done due to politics, to the point that it's hurting freedom of creativity.

Every meaningful story will have some kind of ideology as part of the theme. As long as it doesn't hurt the overall story quality it should be fine. If it really hurts the quality than critism should focus on the actual problem of a story: such as unnatural dialogues, or wrong race in that particular setting etc.

Popular story trend isn't necessarily political nor specific design choices like female scientists or male villains. If you focus your critism on those, you already lose your chance to convince other people in your argument.
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By Pantafernando 2025-02-27 07:33:34
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Ugh

Stop lusting for virtual girl, you pervy nerds

Those arent more than 0s and 1s passing the illusion of a woman.

Also stop objectifying a woman body, and stop the lust all together.

Thats a capital sin.

We must live without those flesh desire and focus only in our spiritual growth.
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By Afania 2025-02-27 07:37:31
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Pantafernando said: »
Ugh

Stop lusting for virtual girl, you pervy nerds

Those arent more than 0s and 1s passing the illusion of a woman.

Also stop objectifying a woman body, and stop the lust all together.

Thats a capital sin.

We must live without those flesh desire and focus only in our spiritual growth.

It's already hard enough to be a villain, it's even harder with Panta preaching light side.

Back to my cave and my villain training, before I lost too much exp here.....
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By Viciouss 2025-02-27 07:53:20
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Yes, do tell me all of the problems that Rockstar North has had in the past decade. And how these problems are going to end up dooming GTA 6.

Complaining about Rockstar's problems is a long-standing tradition, even among people who play their games frequently. GTA 6 will sell like wildfire and people will still complain about it nonstop. It's the GTA way.

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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-27 08:10:09
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Pantafernando said: »
Stop lusting for virtual girl, you pervy nerds
1-Most people arent lusting for virtual girl. They just want virtual girl to actually look like a girl.
2-The primary subset of people who would lust for virtual girl are the people with brainrot due to porn.
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By Pantafernando 2025-02-27 08:18:11
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Sophistry
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By Viciouss 2025-02-27 08:22:06
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Seems to be all RA cares about. Mecha Break looks like just another F2P gacha game. Western studios need not be worried. Certainly in no danger of having their fanbase stolen away.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-27 08:26:54
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Viciouss said: »
Mecha Break looks like just another F2P gacha game.
I agree

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Western studios need not be worried.
Then why would microsoft splurge for exclusivity if its "a generic F2P gacha game that western studios shouldnt worry about"?
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By Viciouss 2025-02-27 08:38:39
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If I'm Sony, I'm not paying for that game. You have the mecha genre covered with the Gundam games and other stuff. As a bonus, you get to avoid the monetization controversy. Whereas if I'm Microsoft, you don't have much of anything in that genre. How much did they actually pay? How long is the exclusivity? A few months? What playerbase is it really going to cut into? A third person mech game that's heavily monetized? Who is it threatening?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-27 08:44:30
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That would indeed be a very poor business decision, because the mecha genre is covered with Gundam games, and all that other stuff you said. Sony would never be careless with their money.

Who burned four hundred million dollars ($400,000,000) on Concord again? A generic hero shooter filled to the vrim with woke elements that no one wanted. And no, thats not a conspiracy theory.
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By RadialArcana 2025-02-27 09:21:05
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Pantafernando said: »
Those arent more than 0s and 1s passing the illusion of a woman.

Mens brains evolved to be rewarded for looking at a nice looking woman and their curves (and the younger the men are, the stronger this is), in real life, a statue, a painting, a movie or in a video game. You still get that dopamine release for looking at it and it makes you feel happier than if it's not there, this is a system that took thousands of years of evolution to hardwired into men.

If you're playing a game with a nice looking woman in it, you're gonna get a little more enjoyment from it and give it a little longer to grow on you whether you like it or not. That's just how it works, you can pretend you're above it if you like but you're not.

The game still has to be good, this is a sprinkles type deal ontop but still adds to the enjoyment of the thing in the same way a nice meal presented well increases your enjoyment of that. No game has ever been made worse by having a pretty girl in it, and if most of your customers are men (which they overwhelming will be) you're out of your mind not to use this "simple trick" cause it works.

Ultimately though, it's not actually so much about that itself as much as it shows the mindset of the developers. If a game has pretty girls in it and a little fan service in it, then it's a massive signpost on the product that you know it's being made to cater to the customer far more and there is going to be far less or none of the other obnoxious crap in it people are sick and tired of.

This is why even though BG3 can be said to be woke in some ways, they have very pretty characters in it and lots of fan service so you can see they are massively catering to fans over anything else.

This is a pretty universal rule in gaming, cause it's very rare you'll get a game with all the other crap in it if it has pretty female characters in it. The intentionally bland / ugly female characters is the tip of the spear for progressive game devs.
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By Viciouss 2025-02-27 09:27:28
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RadialArcana said: »
This is a pretty universal rule in gaming.

No it's not. It's just your unsubstantiated opinion.
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By Kaffy 2025-02-27 11:02:54
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how many intentionally ugly male characters are in video games?

this one doesn't count
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By Godfry 2025-02-27 11:19:27
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No it's not. It's just your unsubstantiated opinion.
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By Kaffy 2025-02-28 01:47:38
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got a kick out of this, game is gonna be great I think but slow start

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By Viciouss 2025-03-01 13:23:28
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MH: Wilds is so good, but damn does it have poor optimization. All of my PC friends spent all day yesterday updating their drivers and trying to make everything work. I'm even having muddying issues on PS5. Still, it's an amazing game. Could easily be the best online multiplayer of the year.
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By Kaffy 2025-03-01 13:42:49
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which weapon did you pick?
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By Asura.Toeknee 2025-03-01 14:36:33
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Been reading a lot of the optimization woes - my PC is probably not good enough to play it then :(
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By Viciouss 2025-03-01 15:14:13
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Kaffy said: »
which weapon did you pick?

Charge blade
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By Zehira 2025-03-01 15:32:38
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That's why reviews are important. They will update their reviews after the company fixes their game.

(Monster Hunter Wilds got mixed ones on steam.)
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-03-01 19:28:04
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Kaffy said: »
how many intentionally ugly male characters are in video games?

this one doesn't count

All male protagonists have to be over 180cm, ripped, extremely athletic, wear suits, expensive watches or otherwise part of some royal family.
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By Draylo 2025-03-01 19:35:11
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Godfry said: »
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No it's not. It's just your unsubstantiated opinion.

stunning and brave
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2025-03-01 20:30:21
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Draylo said: »
Godfry said: »
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No it's not. It's just your unsubstantiated opinion.

stunning and brave

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By RadialArcana 2025-03-05 05:59:05
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Square Enix interview with Naoki Hamaguchi (co-director of ff7r)

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"We now create with a global audience in mind from the very start. In that sense, we are in a completely different era."

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There are so many elements that go into game development. From the story to every little detail in the game's presentation, we conduct thorough ethical reviews tailored to different regions. Taking the time and resources to ensure our work doesn't become a source of negativity for anyone is essential in today's world.

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Back when the original "FINAL FANTASY VII" was released, it was primarily created for the Japanese market, and its global reach expanded as it gained recognition. But today, rather than first prioritizing the Japanese market and letting the game's reach grow organically, we now create with a global audience in mind from the very start. In that sense, we are in a completely different era.

https://www.sony.com/en/brand/createthebeyond/voicesofcreativity/pspa1/

Square Enix don't seem to understand that nobody wants them to sterilize their games and become a clone of ubisoft, if they keep going this way they will be utterly irrelevant in 10 years. If not for remakes and remasters of games people actually loved, and booby models of Tifa and 2b they sell for £1200 they already would be.

They are like a sushi restaurant, that gets super popular and then someone comes in and tells them steak is actually where it's at and they change their entire business model for that, then are confused when they go out of business.

They seem to think their future is in dropping everything that made them popular in the first place, and just become a clone of western studios. Pushing out more bland, safe modern slop everyone is sick of.

This is like Anime publishers deciding they need to be more like Disney, or Manga producers deciding it's time to copy Marvel.
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By Lynxblade 2025-03-05 06:18:53
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Its just you.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-03-05 06:58:34
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Found the only person who preorder AC: Shadows.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-03-05 13:07:09
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Asura.Saevel said: »
All male protagonists have to be over 180cm, ripped, extremely athletic, wear suits, expensive watches or otherwise part of some royal family.
You forgot the angst part.

Also they don't have to know they are otherwise part of some royal family.
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