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Ixion Lore and Proc Attempts
Valefor.Prothescar said: » That's the main thing I think, everyone doing this so far has been solo yes? If it's about # of WS/Frequency/Random chance to break adding more people will make it faster. Yea, gonna have all the mages set up accuracy sets to spam shattersoul in tp sets or w/e lol Bismarck.Leneth said: »  towards the end of Watersday upon defeat. Job BLU/WAR trusts: Moogle, Brygid, Sakura, Sylvie, Ygnas Fight: AM3 was up, brought it to under 15% with Savage Blade => Expiacion skillchains. from here on out: Vorpal Blade: 4619 Acheron Kick Vorpal Blade: 5625 Wrath of Zeus From this point on I WSed in TP gear to bring Vorpal Blade damage below 5k. Vorpal Blade: 2953 Rampant Stance Vorpal Blade: 1940 Acheron Kick Vorpal Blade: 2683 Rampant Stance Vorpal Blade: 3285 Vorpal Blade: 2998 Acheron Kick Savage Blade: 2994 << Horn Broke Fighting time was a little less than 10 Minutes, Diffusion was about to come back, which I used before pulling. Were you WSing during it's TP animation? Got Ixion chest this evening, Spammed Blade: Kamu until 50%, then switched to Blade: Rin doing sub 5k dmg. horn broke around 10% hp remaining
 
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Has the horn ever broken when it's HP is > 10% or is HP < 10% a requirement for the horn to break? (maybe 10% is not the number, could be 20 or 25%?)
Some type of HP threshold for the horn to break would explain why groups did not find this sooner. If people were using big ws trying to kill it fast, and not focusing on timing their weaponskills to the Ixion TP animation cycle to break the horn, it would explain why it took so long for the chest to be found.
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kinda have to eyeball it but this break looks in the 20-25% range https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prs8n5RwduY
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klayy said: » kinda have to eyeball it but this break looks in the 20-25% range https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prs8n5RwduY 25% in that video. Drop HP to 25% as fast as possible - proc it - then kill as fast as possible perhaps. I may waste another KI trying to proc it from 100% and see if the horn only breaks under 25%. I also have doubts about the low ws requirement - did this work with low ws because we slowed down enough to get a proc? Will this work with high damage ws too as long as HP is under 25% and we time our ws appropriately? yeah I guess blast it to 25% and then maybe low WS at first and if that consistently provides the desired results maybe try time bigger ones.
I guess what is it we specifically are trying to time to? I took the day off from horsing around today but I should have time to poke it tomorrow. klayy said: » I guess what is it we specifically are trying to time to? I take back my comment about low ws not being required - with high ws damage it just dies too fast so there is really no way to prove it - 3-4 ws and its dead under 25%. So you really must use low ws in order to have enough chances to proc it. I tried another run on blu/war - took 11 minutes - just spammed vorpal blade - horn broke at 5% HP. I have yet to see the horn break at high HP%.
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JP post on twitter claimed it broke at 30%
I saw something in all three videos that might help you...
Every horn broke Between 2 ws 9 hit and hit number 10 ws then horn broke Maybe the horn need special hit number before do ws and broke horn I notic that It could very well fall into that 50% category like the other NM's and that under 50% it has a chance to break, I have yet to test myself but I somehow feel that high multi hit weapon skills like Asuran Fists, Realmazr, Hexa Strike are likely to have a greater chance at breaking the horn. Just a hunch anyhow. Perhaps I'll use a charge this evening and punchga Ixion a couple times myself for some science lol.
Shiva.Myamoto said: » It could very well fall into that 50% category like the other NM's and that under 50% it has a chance to break, I have yet to test myself but I somehow feel that high multi hit weapon skills like Asuran Fists, Realmazr, Hexa Strike are likely to have a greater chance at breaking the horn. Just a hunch anyhow. Perhaps I'll use a charge this evening and punchga Ixion a couple times myself for some science lol. This is exactly what I think is the case, 50 ws hits. Temper ii would be why we were getting it with Savage Blade on rdm. Should be easy to test with Evisceration or Requiescat, 6+ hits per WS and use it with locked gear for low damage.
I have just seen stream where guy pushed it below 10% first with 12x Origin and then broke the horn on 8th WS with 1dmg great sword. I think GS WS was Hard or Power Slash. Total time from pull to broken horn was below 3min.
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Funny how we went from “none has ever seem this chest” to like “gonna record my fight with whatever random setup/goal and it will work”
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Not funny persay, just actual effort.
Very easy thing to figure out, but everyone was stuck in the mindset of "zerg the *** out if it 5 rows of buffs" and saying it's broken.
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Pantafernando said: » Funny how we went from “none has ever seem this chest” to like “gonna record my fight with whatever random setup/goal and it will work” I'm fairly sure it was bugged and "unbugged" last update, plenty of people soloed and we would of seen this coffer accidentally if it was something as simple as hitting X number of WSs or under 50% HP. Remember this testing group was getting into esoteric stuff because every other "easy" thing had already been tried.
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Asura.Saevel said: » Pantafernando said: » Funny how we went from “none has ever seem this chest” to like “gonna record my fight with whatever random setup/goal and it will work” I'm fairly sure it was bugged and "unbugged" last update, plenty of people soloed and we would of seen this coffer accidentally if it was something as simple as hitting X number of WSs or under 50% HP. Remember this testing group was getting into esoteric stuff because every other "easy" thing had already been tried. Agreed, it was almost certainly fixed recently. When this first came out people tried pretty much every ws in an effort to break the horn, and tons of solo/low man mnks and rdms etc would have been using multihit ws on it again and again, with no reports of the chest for almost a year.
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How low can you get asuran fists damage to on MNK?
I spammed it with Vorpal Blade to see what happened but they were doing 15-18k dmg on WAR. If high dmg is the threshold it resulted in no drop. Mnk with no weapon and a plethora of acc gear sounds like a very good way to keep asuran damage low.
Of course avoid fotia gear, try to avoid att gear in ws and also if you're /WAR you can keep up defender for a bonus to def and a penalty to attack, which sounds just perfect for the purpose of this test if you ask me.
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Asura.Saevel said: » Pantafernando said: » Funny how we went from “none has ever seem this chest” to like “gonna record my fight with whatever random setup/goal and it will work” I'm fairly sure it was bugged and "unbugged" last update, plenty of people soloed and we would of seen this coffer accidentally if it was something as simple as hitting X number of WSs or under 50% HP. Remember this testing group was getting into esoteric stuff because every other "easy" thing had already been tried. No it wasn't fixed. SE is very transparent in fixing stuff. You are just trying to save your face after spamming every thread that Ixion was broken. Even people who soloed it haven't tried to actually go for low damage WSs Asura.Sechs said: » Mnk with no weapon and a plethora of acc gear sounds like a very good way to keep asuran damage low. Of course avoid fotia gear, try to avoid att gear in ws and also if you're /WAR you can keep up defender for a bonus to def and a penalty to attack, which sounds just perfect for the purpose of this test if you ask me. MNK will be still doing quite a lot of white damage, because of base damage of h2h from skill. This can result in killing it before you can proc. You really want 1dmg weapons for this (or kraken club ideally). I personally think the horn can be broken at higher HP% too (maybe below 30%) but with extremely low chance. The chance to break the horn probably goes up with HP% dropping, so you really want to go under 10% HP and spam 2k DMG WSs with almost no white damage. Asura.Cthaeh said: » Shiva.Myamoto said: » It could very well fall into that 50% category like the other NM's and that under 50% it has a chance to break, I have yet to test myself but I somehow feel that high multi hit weapon skills like Asuran Fists, Realmazr, Hexa Strike are likely to have a greater chance at breaking the horn. Just a hunch anyhow. Perhaps I'll use a charge this evening and punchga Ixion a couple times myself for some science lol. This is exactly what I think is the case, 50 ws hits. Temper ii would be why we were getting it with Savage Blade on rdm. Definitely not some fixed 50ws hits for sure. I saw the guy who broke it with total of 20 single hit WSs. Even if some of them were multihit proc, it was still way less than many other people who failed or succeeded after 3 times more 2hits WSs with TemperII.
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SimonSes said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Pantafernando said: » Funny how we went from “none has ever seem this chest” to like “gonna record my fight with whatever random setup/goal and it will work” I'm fairly sure it was bugged and "unbugged" last update, plenty of people soloed and we would of seen this coffer accidentally if it was something as simple as hitting X number of WSs or under 50% HP. Remember this testing group was getting into esoteric stuff because every other "easy" thing had already been tried. No it wasn't fixed. SE is very transparent in fixing stuff. You are just trying to save your face after spamming every thread that Ixion was broken. Even people who soloed it haven't tried to actually go for low damage WSs I wouldn't rush give SE the benefit of the doubt here. They've absolutely ninja-changed things before. (My favorite was when BST99/DNC49 could Healing Waltz onto their pets. Stayed that way for like 36 hours after an update) then poof gone. So, they don't always admit to their mistakes. Just had WAR WAR BRD COR RDM spamming Requeiscat and some Fast Blade 100% to death and no horn break or KI. I don't think it is spamming lots of high multi hit ws.
It mostly spammed its healing ability from what I saw. Not scientific but hope it helps. SimonSes said: » Definitely not some fixed 50ws hits for sure. I saw the guy who broke it with total of 20 single hit WSs. Even if some of them were multihit proc, it was still way less than many other people who failed or succeeded after 3 times more 2hits WSs with TemperII Lending further merit to the fact this has been ninja fixed
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Shiva.Flowen said: » SimonSes said: » Definitely not some fixed 50ws hits for sure. I saw the guy who broke it with total of 20 single hit WSs. Even if some of them were multihit proc, it was still way less than many other people who failed or succeeded after 3 times more 2hits WSs with TemperII Lending further merit to the fact this has been ninja fixed 8x 2k damage WSs below 5-10%% HP and it was lucky too. Tell me please who tried doing low damage WSs below 10% HP before we find out about it few days ago? People tried many things, but not that and whoever was just killing it also wasn't doing low enough WSs, because everyone tried to kill it and even solo you will do much more damage and probably some skillchains too.
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Asura.Aragan said: » I saw something in all three videos that might help you... Every horn broke Between 2 ws 9 hit and hit number 10 ws then horn broke Maybe the horn need special hit number before do ws and broke horn I notic that And i think ws from side high chance from front And try 2 dd ws from right side and left side in 1 time or no And tank front him Or throwing or ranged weapon SimonSes said: » Shiva.Flowen said: » SimonSes said: » Definitely not some fixed 50ws hits for sure. I saw the guy who broke it with total of 20 single hit WSs. Even if some of them were multihit proc, it was still way less than many other people who failed or succeeded after 3 times more 2hits WSs with TemperII Lending further merit to the fact this has been ninja fixed 8x 2k damage WSs below 5-10%% HP and it was lucky too. Tell me please who tried doing low damage WSs below 10% HP before we find out about it few days ago? People tried many things, but not that and whoever was just killing it also wasn't doing low enough WSs, because everyone tried to kill it and even solo you will do much more damage and probably some skillchains too. Maybe not specifically trying this, but its not something unlikely to happen by chance: some solo/low man that had a rough time and lost trusts and had to struggle last percents underbuffed, doing low dmg. I mean, this scenario not happening in so many months, its suspicious
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And now after all this effort, everyone will proceed to completely ignore Ixion again due to the removal of the enraged basement E F G H bosses in September :)
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