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By Masunasu 2022-08-27 17:42:46
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I saw a few mentions earlier of the Vagary bosses not spawning, has any light been shed on this?

Ghatjot has been up consistently for me but Leshonn has been missing two days in a row. I thought it might be due to not completing the Shard/Metal objectives (I had B and C versions leftover from a previous run where I was messing around), but Skomora was up so I'm not sure.

I tried leaving B boss area and getting the Shard/Metal chests and re-entering and still nothing. Only other thing that comes to mind that would cause it is the path I take to get to him; enter via southern locked #A by Device #A and work my way east and north. Going to try entering from Acuex next time.

Also completely possible it's just server bug, but hard to discern between that and a gimmick with the design of this content.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2022-08-27 17:45:23
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Iirc it's always in U2?

Also, yeah... they messed up that region of the map. It has been like that from the release of Sortie and is noted on the bgwiki map.
 
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-08-27 17:48:01
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Also, tips for soloers.
Once you've unlocked the different warps, what should you do solo to farm stuff?

I still feel "lost" in there given I've done just a bunch of runs but earlier I went in on RDM to unlock the empy reforge and managed to do all of the A objectives quite easily.
Well... the hunt for Abject Obdella took me a lot of time but other than that and other than removing Trusts that can WS to do the "kill with magic / no WS" objectives, it was pretty easy.

I figure A objectives would be pretty easy on any mage job (and BLU, and PUP?) as well. Well uhm... I suppose NIN too, supposing ninjutsu damage counts for the magic kill.



Now the following run I entered on SAM to unlock and thought to go directly to B (after doing a couple of easy A objs) to do the multiple WS objectives.
But the thing is that there you only have Umbrils (which are bad if they use their Doom move. I used 8 holy waters and had Monberaux out but still died).
There's elementals too but that's not exactly an... easy target for a SAM.
I'm not worried much for myself to be fair, more about Trusts being slaughtered by AoE magic/spells from Elementals.



So... which zone would you suggest to go when soloing, depending on current job?
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-08-27 17:51:14
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Have always wondered about the part with no map as it is a part of the main Rakaznar map in the normal zones. As the rest of the zone is mapped I would guess maybe an oversight on SE's part, or is there some kind of reason they dont wan't an in game map for this small section?
My idea is that they had a lot of maps ready for ra'kaznar which they prepared for the skirmish thing.

They connected a bunch of those mini-zones (all with their related maps) when creating Sortie, but for that specific point they needed an additional "connecting zone" for which they had no map and that didn't exist in Skirmish.
So they took the 3D models from the real (non instanced) ra'kaznar map and put it in there, but didn't bother to create a dat for the section's map, which is why there is no map for that specific mini-zone.

Just a wild guess eh, but it sorta makes sense I suppose.
 
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By klayy 2022-08-27 18:46:53
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Wanted to see if anyone had additional thoughts on the Blue chest in B from kills. More often than not, we get this chest without really even trying and usually within 3-5 kills max. I typically have everyone who can leaden or AE and its basically automatic.

HOWEVER.. we've failed it 3 times this week. One time Sanguine blade was involved.. made me wonder if leaden and sanguine don't trigger it because both dark... or if snaguine's lack of SC props make it fail. Another time we had people nuking as well and nothing. Today some trueflights, a frightful roar, maybe nukes as well. Nothing.

What I've noticed is if we don't get that chest quickly, within the first room of fire eles or very soon after, it doesn't seem to matter what we do. Like the window is closed. I've gone back to strictly only Leaden/AE after a number of kills without chest and its almost like the obj has timed out. Can kill 10+ the way that usually works and nothing.

I still have never seen the Shard/Metal A chests from any mob that has taken a WS of any kind. Wondering if nukes act similarly on the blue B chest. If you nuke it, that's it. Mob is off the table.

Going back to A for a sec, I've never seen the A chests from strictly meleeing either. Is that confirmed? If one of my alts was to go in and solo, they'd be CORs and meleeing acuexs down just feels like it will take half the time lol. But I also as unsure whether I could handle any boss above A with just trusts. If I have to have nuke dmg, that sticks me on GEO and like why bother at that point :D
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2022-08-27 18:46:53
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XIDB is working right now in Sortie for me.
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By Chimerawizard 2022-08-27 18:50:24
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Tried reloading XIDB on the run we just had. still no map. we were in U2 today.
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By Asura.Schroe 2022-08-27 19:10:33
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Also, tips for soloers.
I have been killing Ghatjot and trying to get "easy" blue chests every day. Still have not seen a blue casket #1 in B side yet, despite trying tons of weapon skill combinations. I'm fine with chipping away at muffins every day for upgrades otherwise. I've asked about pugs, just never on a good time for them I guess.
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By cuddlyhamster 2022-08-27 19:48:41
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Ive been doing killing 5 acuex and resting on platform for two blues
killing obdella for red
porting to device A B D for those easy browns
opening a C door for blue
then focusing on nms for gold
then if i got time left, going back to A to get shard and metal to kill ghatjot.
6 chances for a sapphire and around 6k muffins.
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By Ragnarok.Vargasfinio 2022-08-27 20:37:29
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As far as solo goes, once you unlock all of the Devices and all four keys (easy, just do a run focused on getting all of these items, they require no special setup for any job) you can focus on getting easy blue chest objectives as they can contain Old Cases and Sapphires. Killing the 4 roaming NMs each run is also fairly simple and gives the gold chest. The 4 "free" objectives at the Devices are simple and fast, so thats 400 muffins for 60 seconds of work. Add another 60 if you have to pull a mob to the A Device to trigger it. Still simple.

You should only be doing brown chest objectives if you want to try to fight the bosses. Ghatjot isn't too hard, but be sure that you have DT gear or a fast killspeed as he can hit hard even if you don't use water damage. You get more muffins by killing regular enemies than spending time to get brown chest objectives if you don't need them. All of the enemies in A are simple to kill, and depending on your job elementals in B are also fairly simple. If you are melee, skip B and fight things in C and D. D mobs are worth the most per kill, but are significantly harder and often pull in groups and Trusts are particularly bad at fighting them, so take that into account. I usually only kill enough of D mobs to get a clean pull on the roaming NM then warp elsewhere.


In terms of further data on objectives...still inconclusive on the A kills. I consistently get them both in 6 kills using auto-attacks only and using Cherukiki / Cornelia / Ulmia / Joachim / Koru-Moru. None of them use WS, but they do debuff mobs with Slow, Para, Dia, Silence, etc. I would love to find a faster way to do this though, as even with self buffs on MNK the 6 auto-attack kills are not a fast process. I only do it if I need new items to fight Ghatjot, otherwise it is a waste. I can clear both of the Hecteyes rooms completely fighting normally in the time it takes to only kill 6 with auto-attacks.
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By Asura.Lunafreya 2022-08-27 20:50:11
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Sorry if this has been asked but where are people getting old cases +1? Is it just a random chance from a box/boss? I've been doing mostly A/B objs/bosses and only seen NQ cases.
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By Heghmoh 2022-08-27 21:03:13
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Asura.Lunafreya said: »
Sorry if this has been asked but where are people getting old cases +1? Is it just a random chance from a box/boss? I've been doing mostly A/B objs/bosses and only seen NQ cases.

Anything that drops an old case has a very rare chance to drop an old case +1, that old case +1 has a very rare chance to put out a +2 earring for one of any jobs. It’s fun! /s
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-08-27 21:05:09
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Also, tips for soloers.
Once you've unlocked the different warps, what should you do solo to farm stuff?

I'm in the process of making a Sortie A (and maybe other sections) solo farming chart, similar to the Sheol C chart. This is what I threw together.



Assuming you kill all the fodder, do all of the interacts (including a couple from other sections), and kill Ghatjot, you walk away with a good amount and 4 possible chances at drops.

I think these objectives are all doable solo, depending on how fast you can kill the trash.
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By 1thenumber 2022-08-27 23:05:19
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
Also, tips for soloers.
Once you've unlocked the different warps, what should you do solo to farm stuff?

I'm in the process of making a Sortie A (and maybe other sections) solo farming chart, similar to the Sheol C chart. This is what I threw together.



Assuming you kill all the fodder, do all of the interacts (including a couple from other sections), and kill Ghatjot, you walk away with a good amount and 4 possible chances at drops.

I think these objectives are all doable solo, depending on how fast you can kill the trash.

Thank you for this Buukki, appreciate the help.

I just ran this route on my slowish RDM/DRK/BRD tri-box and finished it all with 10 minutes to spare. Major time saves were cleaving the leeches and hecteyes with AE and Fell Cleave. Also, the metal/shard objectives go super fast with enspells + AM3 Caladbolg. Not sure what everyone's tried and true method is but I alternate killing blows with Fire 4 and Blizzard 4 and get them both in 6 or 7 kills.

Got lucky and Porxie was like 50 yalms from device B, so added that, plus killed a Corse at device C. Total muffins was 6900 or so with only one drop - a sapphire.

This should make it easy to plan out +2 upgrades, with it basically being an upgrade every two days, even if you have to buy the occasional sapphire.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-08-27 23:43:54
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Glad someone ran it and got good results. It was something I was theorycrafting, but never go a chance to run myself. Keep in mind for weaker players who can't move onto B, they can always choose to rematerialize the A monsters and cleave the trash. You get the reduced Gallimaufry rate, but they are far weaker, faster, and less annoying than Section B trash. So that's always an option.
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By Asura.Bixbite 2022-08-28 00:01:16
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What about killing all 4 nms for the garunteed? Aurum coffer. Its not too hard solo, at least on Pup.
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By Shiva.Kuranesae 2022-08-28 00:13:57
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
Also, tips for soloers.
Once you've unlocked the different warps, what should you do solo to farm stuff?

I'm in the process of making a Sortie A (and maybe other sections) solo farming chart, similar to the Sheol C chart. This is what I threw together.



Assuming you kill all the fodder, do all of the interacts (including a couple from other sections), and kill Ghatjot, you walk away with a good amount and 4 possible chances at drops.

I think these objectives are all doable solo, depending on how fast you can kill the trash.

Could maybe add the 'Open a locked B door' for an easy chance at a sapphire/case? I usually run and hit the door south of the B device before doing something else over there
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-08-28 00:16:47
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Shiva.Kuranesae said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
Also, tips for soloers.
Once you've unlocked the different warps, what should you do solo to farm stuff?

I'm in the process of making a Sortie A (and maybe other sections) solo farming chart, similar to the Sheol C chart. This is what I threw together.



Assuming you kill all the fodder, do all of the interacts (including a couple from other sections), and kill Ghatjot, you walk away with a good amount and 4 possible chances at drops.

I think these objectives are all doable solo, depending on how fast you can kill the trash.

Could maybe add the 'Open a locked B door' for an easy chance at a sapphire/case? I usually run and hit the door south of the B device before doing something else over there

I missed this objective. It's easy enough to do solo with sneak/invis. Was looking for low hanging fruit obj,. Requires Key B, though, so a newer player would have to open doors first to do this one. Regardless, I'll add it because it's an easy Sapphire chance, as you mentioned. Thanks
 
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-08-28 00:21:31
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Asura.Bixbite said: »
What about killing all 4 nms for the garunteed? Aurum coffer. Its not too hard solo, at least on Pup.

It's probably not a hard objective to do solo. I just threw this together, and the focus was on clearing A since its the easiest, and then some easy straggler B objectives (the interact/travel ones). I didn't want to make an exhaustive list because mileage varies on who can accomplish what solo. So I kept it simple. Certainly add to it if you desire. The list I posted was just for low hanging fruit easy objectives. Outside of Ghatjot, the rest is clearable by most players.
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By Shiva.Trumpy 2022-08-28 01:14:55
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Well every run I have done ffxidb has worked on two characters, it stops while in that one section of course, but comes back. How do you know if you are in U1 or U2? Ill try and remember to check for that next run.
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-28 02:31:53
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Shiva.Trumpy said: »
Well every run I have done ffxidb has worked on two characters, it stops while in that one section of course, but comes back. How do you know if you are in U1 or U2? Ill try and remember to check for that next run.

It says which zone you are in as you enter. Can also do a manual search of U1 and U2 to check again.
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By Sylph.Gobbo 2022-08-28 03:10:50
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Unsure if this is known or even relevant but you could use those Ergon Tinctures inside of Sortie. The single one I had I popped in the Boss Room with D Boss pulled which did not trigger anything.

Also probably known by now due to it being A but using an Instant Scroll of Protect/Stoneskin next to Device A did not trigger the objective, however using Cornelia did.
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By SimonSes 2022-08-28 05:07:33
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I think blue/red chests and bosses should be a priority for solo, because it gives chance for sapphire/Old case+1 and points will come anyway.

- 2 easy blue in A
- At least 1 blue (open door) in B
- Can try blue in C (fast kills) if you are at some job with strong multistep. I would also do shard/metal here at the same time by using shantoto for bursts maybe
- Kill all roaming NMs and 6 fomors in room with all different job room (G-9 next to D device) for at least 2 red and one gold
- Kill boss C
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2022-08-28 05:26:50
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Question about boss C, Skomora - after a while, it will start using this move "setting the stage" which does 4000 to 18000 AoE damage. I have never seen anyone report this or report having problems killing it - so I cant figure out what we are doing to cause this. We all have the Metal/Plate/Shard for C.
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By SimonSes 2022-08-28 06:10:39
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Did he absorb any damage?
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2022-08-28 06:17:18
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I am not sure, I will have to record our next attempt to see if any action we are performing is being absorbed.
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