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Great tip, got my set from 17seconds down to 13, thanks. Medada's Ring looking pretty nice for this set, hah

Kinda got lost in the mix but

Follow up question:
spam Stone until an elemental TP move is used, then repeatedly heal it to force Bane of Tartarus.

ie: if the TP move is Frozen Blood, is it always then blizzard to heal him to force Bane?

Yeah. You match the element of the TP move, since he absorbs the same element as his last TP move.

It's kinda a pain when he uses one of the dark based ones
Do shadows even work on anything Aminon does? I was fairly sure anythign he did woudl ignore or wipe shadows, but since I assumed that I didn't actually test it. <,<

Our RUN has reported 2 Blink shadows absorbing some of Aminon's auto-attacks. Between Blink, Stoneskin, and all the debuffs from RDM, it shouldn't be generating very much TP at all from hitting your tank.

Hmmm. Well, I'm all for taking less hits. I'll try blink next Aminon.

So a follow up on this. Blink does work on one of Aminon's 3 types of melee attacks(Both hand sword swing). However, his other two attacks wipe blink every time, so assuming even distribution, you've got a 33% chance that blink will do anything, and a 66% chance that it'll just get wiped next round and you'll still get hit.

Personally, I don't feel like that's worth spamming Blink for.

I’m curious, has anyone tried having a NIN blink tank Aminon?

NIN or /nin?

NIN would probably survive with easy, but the whole point of RUN is Rayke/Gambit, otherwise you would simply bring a Duban PLD and take 0 from each hit.

How much does ninjitsu lower resistances vs rayke gambit ?
Probably no where near comparable?

Couldn't find the source on this but I believe the ninjutsu is a meva down debuff, Rayke lowers resistance tier (huge) and gambit provides a % increase to damage.

Doton: San - 11172
Doton: San after a Raiton: San - 11172

I also did the same with Ni spell cast before San, same result, exact same damage.

Ignore all of the WS stuff on the Botulus. Did 2 runs tonight and tried something. Condition: One person needs to hold hate for 30 seconds. Nothing else matters.

Needs confirmation, but pretty sure that this is it.

If true then it needs to live at least 30 seconds.

Should be easy to test, and I'm not 100% on the time being exactly 30 seconds but I believe it is that. Here is my experience.

We normally go RDM/NIN WAR/SAM DRK/DRG COR/DNC BRD/DNC WHM/SCH. Typically on the Botulus WAR gets hate, and after his second provoke we all jump on it and rape in 5 seconds, and always get the chest. The only times we don't get the chest is if we start early and turn him, or if he charms near the beginning of the fight. We initially thought it was the WS from behind thing, but have gotten it a few times killing from the front so we wrote that off. Also the WAR typically does more than 50% of the damage from the front.

Tonight we had a streak of charm misfortunes. First fight, I jumped the gun and turned him... No chest. We respawned, second fight charm at start, DRK and WAR killed 2 people before we bound them. Afterwards we just killed quick and decided to repop, did last one our safe method and got the chest. War provoke. WS WS WS Provoke, then everyone jumps on.

2nd run, we pull and BRD and COR immediately get charmed and kill DRK and WAR. I bind them (on RDM) and pull the Botulus off to the side and proceed to work it down while they get up/recover/uncharm. I had it by myself for about 30-45 seconds and then said ok let's just kill it. After 2 WS, weakened DRK pulls hate and it turns. My next WS brings it back on me, and one more WS from me kills it. Chest drops. Majority of WS done from front, killing blow done from front. Only consistant thing that seems to grant us the chest is one person holds hate for 30+ seconds.

Falls in line with my system, I've never bothered narrowing it down because my system always works, no point making things harder for myself changing it up to test.

I've wrote my method a couple times in the forums now, and use a trust tank, I caper enmity onto him after my first 3 step that pulls hate, then continue to kill with the trust tank never losing hate.

Because there has never been a need for me to test since I started using this method, I'd pretty much narrowed it down to holding enmity for a certain amount of time, or holding the enmity for a certain amount of the Botulus HP getting reduced, but I've had no reason to narrow it down further.

Ninjutsu is -30 res to the respective element. Doesn't matter if it's Ni or San, same # for both.

Gambit doesn't reduce magic resistance.

Rayke is much stronger by actively reducing resistance ranks.

Appreciate all the responses and advice. We killed Aminion on our 2nd attempt.
<20 min, alot to tighten up for sure. It got 1 TP move off, monks roll fell mid skillchain and then it tp'd.

Other than that it went smooth. The major difference I believe was RUN spamming stoneskin, our absorbs were 80-200 range as opposed to 300-480.

Charm is just RNG from my experience. It's simple, he can use slimy proposal whenever he wants

Most charms are light-based though, so it makes sense that Light Carol would help resist it.

This might also work for people doing objectives on corses (fairly normal when doing split objectives).

Botulus is also very stunnable if you have your geo or someone go sub blm. Is the method I use, though obviously depends on timers and timing.

I use Flat Blade on my RDM to stun, with all the magic accuracy gear in game now it's stupidly reliable. (The empy +3's having both magic acc and acc).

Although against Botulus not as reliable, since I'm using the RDM as the main skillchainer, so can't just hold TP for stuns.

Works a treat stopping the dispel moves on the mini naakuals and such though.

For those doing melee, how do you survive clobbering on the E boss?

Ok thank you.

If this is true, it doesn't appear to be that simple. Pulled Botulus on DRK with stun and spammed spells/job abilities for a minute. No one was engaged and hate never left the DRK during that minute. After a minute, everyone engaged from the front. No chest.

We did the same tonight, pulled for ~60 seconds through the split room door. Then we went ham on it from all sides, no chest.

Just to add, yesterday i tried to open for leaden with RUN in its front, failed miserably but 2 or 3 three ground strict with fragmentation on its front didnt prevent metal.

I think the most plausible explanation is %dmg on its back.

Another question about Setting the Stage:

- its triggered around with the clown center, or around the target?

- in the kiting strategy, suppose the target is out of the range, will the mob hold on the move till he can use it, or will he skip/forget if the timing has passed, and reset the timer?

Thanks

Setting the Stage hits everybody within 30 yalms of the target. And if you kite him, he will hold it until the tank is in range (within about 15 yalms). In the early days when the WS wall was still ridiculous, we would Gravity and kite him and spank him with Seraph Blade every 10 seconds. It took more than 3 minutes to kill, but we never got hit by Setting the Stage. Here's a video on how we used to do it. Might be pertinent again with the enraged mode at Stage 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3xIfhOeFuI&t=7s