May 8th, 2022 Livestream Thread

Looks like Sroda Ring isn't percentage based, but is instead a flat +10 attack per trust.

Most DD jobs are kinda close to each other anyway. Some excels in zergs more than other, but how you plan to adjust Warcry+MS Warrior? You will nerf SP and Warcry or nerf WAR to lower the peak with those abilities up? I can't really imagine one or the other tbh.

No Im talking about the past and what Geriond wrote in details. It was series of individual job adjustments and then Master Level as all job adjustment/new progression system. They haven't hinted anything else past that.


I think the word balance has never poped up with connection to all job adjustment. AFAIK they mentioned RNG needed individual boost (Hover shot) before Master Levels, because Master Levels wouldn't help it enough on their own (in their eyes ofc).

Also tbh I'm pretty sure balancing jobs right now will be SUPER hard if not impossible. Everyone has different opinion of what jobs are OP, what they value as OP. For example curing on DNC. Some people value this high, some people don't care at all and only want DNC to be stronger pure DD. Same for a lot of BLU utility. In general utility is really hard to compare, while damage is much easier. Even in term of dps, some jobs excels in group, some excels in solo selfSC. Some people don't care about solo tho or low buff scenario.

Most DD jobs are kinda close to each other anyway. Some excels in zergs more than other, but how you plan to adjust Warcry+MS Warrior? You will nerf SP and Warcry or nerf WAR to lower the peak with those abilities up? I can't really imagine one or the other tbh.

I imagine you would want THF to get dps boost? How tho? Buff Rudra? Then you would have unbalanced Dagger WSs, when you could just forget other Dagger WSs even exist. Twashtar would also be only option. Adjust all daggers WSs? Maybe, but that would also affect DNC.

Jobs like PUP are easier to boost, because changes to automaton will only affect PUP.

Also doing changes before Empy+3 is probably a bad idea. At least I am expecting Empy+3 to have lots of JA augments or enhancements that might shake the balance a little.

Afaik they also plan to add new JSE accessories? That could also change a lot. Not every job adjustment needs to be done through adjustment to job itself. It can be done through gear too. Infamous Yagyu Darkblade katana is the prime example.

Feb 2020

Question 1, job adjustments
question 2, EMP +2+3

EMP gear will come after job adjustments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vj7eQA7c5c

We are aiming for a job update that'll make your primary job even more enjoyable, while also piquing your curiosity in other jobs as well.

That screams Master Levels.
Additional skill and main stat = Makes your primary job more enjoyable
unlocking higher sj lvl, which unlocks JA, spells and traits from it = piquing your curiosity in other jobs

I mean I made a whole post but deleted it I don't wanna get into rants about job adjustments over my phone its a different view if you don't play the jobs so.

does /checkparam not work?

Unlock sj Levels isn't job adjustments though. On top of that unlock job adjustments why we make subjobs locked for odyssey...

Nope. It seems to be calculated on hit, much like Conspirator.

It's very likely to be simpler and more efficient to program it this way, instead of either constantly pinging the server with the number of trusts active.

Feb 2020

Question 1, job adjustments
question 2, EMP +2+3

EMP gear will come after job adjustments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vj7eQA7c5c

Thank you for finding and posting this. I can still see how some might point to this clip (Question #1) as referring to master levels still. It's a bit broad and can be interpreted either way. Would love if someone that spoke the language could give their insight. Curious if there's anything lost in translation that might shed some light on the topic. Personally, I don't get the impression this was referring to master levels. Just by going off the translation provided in the subtitles, I don't think it matches. They talk about balance and being careful, etc. Gives me hope :)

I remember in one of the recent update notes, where Matsui would give his little speech, he mentioned how they wish they had more time leading up to the 20th anniversary. I actually found it - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/59251-Announcing-the-March-Version-Update

Considering what we got for the 20th anniversary, I'm not entirely sure what the dev team would need more time for...I wouldn't be surprised if they were hoping to release the job updates for the 20th. But that's just wishful thinking. I still believe! I would be beyond happy if they continued the trend they started with Majesty and Hovershot.

First up are job adjustments. I previously mentioned that we had finished up with individual job adjustments and have now turned our eye toward new job progression elements, but there are a couple more adjustments we wanted to make before diving deep into the next set of systems.
Specifically, there are some adjustments coming to rangers and some paladin spells. Don’t fret, though—we’re still on schedule for our new progression systems coming down the pipeline for all existing jobs.

This video is from 2020.

This quote is from April 2021

Those adjustments were obviously Majesty, Reprisal and Hover Shot. There was no hint to any other job adjustment planned for individual jobs past that point (unless fixes).

Master Levels are a "job adjustment for all 22 jobs".

Master Levels are a "job adjustment for all 22 jobs".

Exactly. You guys paying too much attention to how they wording it. They were wording it "job adjustments for all 22 jobs" in the May video and "new progression systems coming down the pipeline for all existing jobs" in Announcing the May Version Update 2 weeks before that.

It's the same thing and it's master levels.

Exactly. You guys paying too much attention to how they wording it. They were wording it "job adjustments for all 22 jobs" in the May video and "new progression systems coming down the pipeline for all existing jobs" in Announcing the May Version Update 2 weeks before that.

It's the same thing and it's master levels.

100% agree, but the "wording" is the problem- its been obvious for years that their English localization team is either barebones or completely inept. I completely understand this isn't converting Spanish to English, and at times it will be by necessity slightly altered...but by the same token is sure ain't Aramaic to English, either.

The whole 20th Anniversary feels like another FFXI-R, and UI Updates.

Lots of early promises that weren't completed due to lack of ability and will.

I read the job adjustments as job adjustments. They dropped individual ones like PLD and RNG for them. That doesn't scream Master Levels. It screams pulling individual job changes together.

FFXI-Remake was never a thing, you are confusing that with FFXI mobile that was going to be set in Vana'diel but it wasnt going to be FFXI. FFXI mobile was then scrapped as the company making it, it wasnt SE, did a terrible job and SE didnt like it.

That is true, but we know about how poor translation is for years now. That makes me confused why people haven't learnt anything still.. They are talking about plans for all 22 (or all existing) jobs in the same month and instead of understanding the context, people still hold them by words. I'm done arguing about it tho, I have more important stuff to do XD

A progression system adjusts jobs. We're conditioned to think job adjustments = balance adjustments, but that's not inherently part of the definition.

That is true, but we know about how poor translation is for years now. That makes me confused why people haven't learnt anything still.. They are talking about plans for all 22 (or all existing) jobs in the same month and instead of understanding the context, people still hold them by words. I'm done arguing about it tho, I have more important stuff to do XD

You should know by now that the FFXI population makes mountains out of mole hill.

but we know about how poor translation is for years now. That makes me confused why people haven't learnt anything still.. They are talking about plans for all 22 (or all existing) jobs in the same month and instead of understanding the context, people still hold them by words.