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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-21 10:24:43
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Cruz Missive said: »
Tucker is already national; there aren't multiple broadcasts. On any given night in the season there are 6-10 NBA games, which ends up aggregating to 10M+ viewers.
I think what volk is saying is that if Tucker was given the opportunity of being on multiple stations, he could easily pull +10M viewers per day.

Which, honestly, is debatable. Maybe 6 mil, but I highly doubt 10 mil.
By volkom 2020-07-21 10:26:16
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idk~ google search says like 850k - 1.5M ish views per game

Not that any of this is apples to apples, but the majority of NBA games are only carried on local cable affiliates. There's only a handful of "national" games a week, and they typically sit in the 4M+ range depending on which network they're on (ESPN/ABC is highest, followed by TBS/TNT, and down the line). There's also League Pass subscribers, which aren't included in those numbers at all.

Finals games pull 14-15M+, but that's a special event, obviously.
true ~ views per game per station/network is not that high compared to tucker. if the tucker carlson show was on multiple networks that 4m number could be a lot higher

Err, no, you have it backwards. Tucker is already national; there aren't multiple broadcasts. On any given night in the season there are 6-10 NBA games, which ends up aggregating to 10M+ viewers.

Again, professional sports are not an apples to apples comparison to political commentary, but if the question is about pure number of eyeballs, the NBA demolishes him. It's not even particularly close.
you right I have the broadcasts thing backwards. (i know its not apples to apples) let me get this right tho ~ 6-10 NBA games = 10M+ views? So each game is pulling 1-1.6M views per game? how is tucker's 1 hour 4M viewer show not yielding more views then a single NBA game then?
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2020-07-21 10:27:02
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What's the Viewer rating on the Riots???
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By Cruz Missive 2020-07-21 10:29:08
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cruz Missive said: »
Tucker is already national; there aren't multiple broadcasts. On any given night in the season there are 6-10 NBA games, which ends up aggregating to 10M+ viewers.
I think what volk is saying is that if Tucker was given the opportunity of being on multiple stations, he could easily pull +10M viewers per day.

Which, honestly, is debatable. Maybe 6 mil, but I highly doubt 10 mil.

I mean, no. The NBA gets that 10M+ aggregate because it's 6-10 different games. If the idea is that if you had 4-5 different Tucker Carlsons you could get aggregate up, maybe? Except they'd have to all be in the same time slot for the purposes of this, which means they'd really just poach from each other. The audience for what Carlson does is already locked in; they have what they want and there's only one place to get it, so we know exactly how big that audience is.

The NBA's aggregate numbers work because the various regional broadcasts hold appeal to that specific area. Most people in South Carolina aren't going to care about a Suns-Spurs game, but people in the Southwest will, etc.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-21 10:29:11
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Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
What's the Viewer rating on the Riots???
According to Google, 1.78 billion viewers (aka hits).

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By volkom 2020-07-21 10:30:18
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Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
What's the Viewer rating on the Riots???
dunno but MSNBC did have ratings thrive from the nonstop russia collusion coverage
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2020-07-21 10:31:20
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What's the Viewer rating on the Riots???
dunno but MSNBC did have ratings thrive from the nonstop russia collusion coverage
The only direction they could go was Up from there.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-21 10:32:43
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I mean, no. The NBA gets that 10M+ aggregate because it's 6-10 different games. If the idea is that if you had 4-5 different Tucker Carlsons you could get aggregate up, maybe? Except they'd have to all be in the same time slot for the purposes of this, which means they'd really just poach from each other. The audience for what Carlson does is already locked in; they have what they want and there's only one place to get it, so we know exactly how big that audience is.
Which is why I said it was debatable.

It depends on if Tucker is on the cable networks or general networks (aka the ABC/NBC/CBS type stations) or not. If he was more easily accessed, his viewership would go up.

As of right now, he is behind a literal paywall (subscription-based service called cable TV).

I don't disagree with your points at all. Just bringing up more points.
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By Terlet Sangria 2020-07-21 10:36:39
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
As of right now, he is behind a literal paywall (subscription-based service called cable TV).

I mean, so's basketball. This is maybe the only apples to apples piece of the equation.

The one time a year the NBA is on free TV is the finals, and ratings go to 14M+ when it is.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-21 10:38:55
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As of right now, he is behind a literal paywall (subscription-based service called cable TV).

I mean, so's basketball. This is maybe the only apples to apples piece of the equation.

The one time a year the NBA is on free TV is the finals, and ratings go to 14M+ when it is.
Nearly all games, maybe.

Spurs are played on KENS5 like once a month during the season for free. I'm sure viewership goes through the roof during that time than through NBA Pass or whatever it's called.

I have Fox Sports Southwest, so I can watch the Spurs play at any time they play anyway, unless they are playing the rare TNT/TBS game.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-21 10:39:27
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Put Tucker on CBS for one night and let's see how many people watch him then.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-21 14:58:05
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Live: DHS briefs the public on growing unrest in Portland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbEyc11EpY8 (fox news's channel)
By volkom 2020-07-21 16:01:52
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whats the tl;dw on it?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-07-21 16:05:26
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whats the tl;dw on it?
At a guess "Everything we are doing is perfectly legal."
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-07-21 16:06:47
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Put Tucker on CBS for one night and let's see how many people watch him then.
He would bomb. Real Fox addicts won't watch any other news or views.
By volkom 2020-07-21 16:22:16
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whats the tl;dw on it?
At a guess "Everything we are doing is perfectly legal."

I'll watch it and update you guys later. guess nonstop riots is what y'all enjoy
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By volkom 2020-07-21 20:36:37
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volkom said: »
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whats the tl;dw on it?
At a guess "Everything we are doing is perfectly legal."

I'll watch it and update you guys later. guess nonstop riots is what y'all enjoy

DHS talking about protecting federal facilities and that people are causing damage to city and federal property every night.
The individuals have use commercial grade fireworks, baseball bats, metal pipes, glass bottles, laser pointers etc. They attempted to breach the courthouse, thrown explosive materials, burned material around the courthouse and tried to remove barricades protecting it. Local city has done nothing to prevent it. Fed law/statutes says that they can protect federal property or persons on the property as well as investigate offences on/off property on individuals who damaged property.
the fed officers wear insignias pertaining to their branch of govt like marshals, border patrol etc.
portland has had 52 consecutive days of riots. Before the fed DHS officers arrived the Mayor of portland has complained about the riots have gone on for over a month.
The secretary spokesperson said that these people stop being protesters and become criminals when they try to set fire to buildings. They said between 6pm-11pm its peaceful protests but at midnight + streets get blocked and become violent.
Rioters have been throwing hard objects, glass bottles, and trying to blind officers with green laser pointers (apparently 3 officers have eye injuries and may not recover sight).
Officers are not displaying their name on the uniform because officers (38 of them) have been dox'd so they want to limit harm to may come to their families so they use badge numbers. They also showed the types of uniforms their officers wear to not cause any confusion with any cosplayers or w/e. The arrests they make (they say) are targeted arrests based on probable cause because the individual has committed a crime. They don't use marked police cars because they've had cars been destroyed and put on fire. News outlets who bring up the stories of unidentified/masked stormtroopers or w/e is inaccurate. all the officers are distinguished in marking that say police and has their patch of their department. and they do identify themselves when they make the arrests as police/fed agent.
43 federal arrests have been made
DHS has tried to de-escalate and asked the mayor/governor what they need and how they can help. Mayor/Gov said no thanks and told them to leave. DHS has asked how long do they want the riots to continue, DHS received no response. DHS will remove the agents when the violence stops. DHS doesn't need approval of the mayor/gov to be in portland cuz its about federal property.
at about 30min in they talk about the bit where they detained the guy for questioning (you can watch that if you want, doubt you will). They essentially have observers who point out persons who committed crime and they go after them to question/arrest when the individual is in a smaller group cuz making the arrest in large crowd isn't safe for any party.
DHS wasn't responsible for the guy who wore the navy vet guy that got his hand broken. the "officers" were US marshals so they don't have much info on it ~ Dept. of justice is doing investigations into that. main reason why DHS is there is because local authorities aren't making efforts to protect the facility/personnel. FBI is on the scene as well to investigate who's organizing the nightly raids on the courthouse/surrounding faculties. DHS and FPS can protect the grounds based on authority/law that's been in the books for decades ~ so take it up with another president. The news/media mentioned something about some memo. the secretary said he has not seen the memo that media has described. so /dunno. to sum it up everything is legal and media is disingenuous and DHS asked them to please report all the facts accurately.

no figure on the # of officers injured in total tho ~ guess the mayor of portland or the governor don't give a damn about the riots. sounds like the city to live in
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By Viciouss 2020-07-21 20:48:53
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Uh giant wall of text FTL
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By volkom 2020-07-21 20:55:16
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oh you wanted a tl;dr?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-07-21 21:12:57
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TLDR: Damage was done to federal property therefore any gathering of protestors is a riot.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-21 21:17:38
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
TLDR: Damage was done to federal property therefore any gathering of protestors is a riot.
That, plus, any and all persons at any point, anywhere, are suspects, "because I said so" and are subject to detainment.
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By Prong 2020-07-21 21:42:42
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
TLDR: Damage was done to federal property therefore any gathering of protestors is a riot.
That, plus, any and all persons at any point, anywhere, are suspects, "because I said so" and are subject to detainment.


Yes. Go the *** home, children. The whole, "I wanna erase anything and everything that was considered white..." is played out now.

Change it all, white names, black streets, white statues, black building names....all or none. Get it over with or go to jail. It's literally the stupidest "protest" in all human history.
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By Prong 2020-07-21 22:31:37
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I actually have a better idea than wasting taxpayer dollars and resources arresting these clowns.

They should tell them all they made a new reality show, "No Capitalism Island."

Whisk them all away on a cruise ship or two, then dump them on a deserted island with only the following:
  • Bucket

  • Tarp

  • Hose

  • Bag of seeds

  • Rope

  • Knife



By the end of week two, right about when all that pink hair dye starts to fade due to the sun and salt water, half of them will use either that rope or knife on themselves because they are so distraught they haven't been able to Tweet about their experience.

The other half will use that rope and knife to try and make a raft so they can float back to capitalism ASAP.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-07-21 23:02:35
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
TLDR: Damage was done to federal property therefore any gathering of protestors is a riot.
Well, that is a textbook definition of a riot.

You can't call them peaceful protesters if they there to purposely damage property.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-21 23:20:49
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Every protestor is not a rioter.

Every rioter is a not protestor. (some are simply opportunists)

DHS / CBP are arresting indiscriminately with no oversight.
By volkom 2020-07-21 23:24:25
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DHS / CBP are arresting indiscriminately with no oversight.

go watch the 40+ min video, a reporter asked that question
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-07-21 23:26:22
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I'm the one who told you about the video, I watched it.

All they have to do is say "you look like a rioter" or "you're in the wrong place" and yo *** gets kidnapped.

Yes, they let you go. and that IS technically legal. That in no way makes it ok.
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By Prong 2020-07-21 23:33:50
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Every protestor is not a rioter.

Every rioter is a not protestor. (some are simply opportunists)

DHS / CBP are arresting indiscriminately with no oversight.


In any normal situation outside of this recent lunacy, if I, or you, or anyone, were to just, hang out in the street, interfering with the smooth flow of traffic in even the slightest, that's not legal. One phone call, we're in the paddy wagon. You can't just wander around in the street, it's dangerous, it causes accidents, insurance companies get involved, all bad. You get arrested for that.

I think you've not quite mentally checked out of the, "OooooooooOHH IT'S PROTEST TIME!!!!" saga. It's over. They made their point, if they even had one. Now it's just about cleaning the trash off the street after the street fair.
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