Election 2020 The Horse Race (Not Misspelled)

Hank Johnson - the number one proud owner of 'dumbest politician on the planet'.

Or it could be because DC isn't a state...

How long is he gonna hold that title though? There's QAnon people winning primaries!

Poor Mosin....

Eh he is used to it! He is probably playing Brigandine and doesn't have time for us.

so another "i would counter your points BUUUUUUUUT"?
can you not see how bad of an argument that is?



Yep, i'm aware. so was i. then you came and stuck your *** in it with a 'when have you ever admitted you were wrong' comment. critiquing my behavior. you opened the door for this, and now that its open, your trying to close it. do you not see the issue?



I never said you did. i appealed to you SEVERAL times to defend your stance, at least four to five times, across SEVERAL avenues. i'm not being an *** about it. you accused me of spreading misinformation, and falsehoods about covid, and then waved a threat banning in my face for it. you have to ask yourself - Who was the *** first? i didnt come to you asking sarcastic remarks. i didnt run away from the conversation like a coward when someone knocked down almost all of those sarcastic remarks. Now your acting like "help help, hes being an ***" after taking a swipe at me because i took a swipe back

To be fair, they get the minimum number of votes for the minimum number of representatives (1 House, 2 Senate).

I admit I'm wrong when I am.

I'm not vain....

I missed the bit in the NIN guide.

Minus points for it not being about politics, but it'll do. Bonus points for saying it to Eiryl, who you clearly loathe.


You don't think bringing it up in multiple threads is being an *** about it?


If I wanted to ban you, I would have just banned you. I've nuked people for a lot less ***than you've given me. My stance on public health misinformation is pretty well known, and it's not flexible. You were posting things directly in contradiction with the current science and I said to knock it off. I didn't get aggro about it until you did.


Who exactly are you picturing me saying this to?


What? I said I was looking back up the stuff to link, the hassle of doing that again is why I didn't retype everything in the first place. It was a *** concession, for Christ's sake. YOU WON.

Thank you, where's my trophy?

Better yet, you should make a participation trophy badge for the P&R posters!

No more code for P+R.

(well, almost. I wrote something yesterday that'll go in once Scragg applies my mountain of PRs).

i dont loathe him at all - i think hes got his facts wrong in some places, and dislike some of his more..... edgy stances. i've said it previously that i want to find common ground rather than just arguing.


possibly... yes. yes its definitely annoying but that was ultimately my point. you basically ran up and slapped me in the face, and then stripped me of my ability to discuss that slap in the face, and then refused to engage on it.


again the veracity of your statments is extremely debatable. you made several arguments about things like ventilators and PPE that were provable falsehoods, and many more that have little to no factual basis. this isnt the covid thread obviously but we can have this discussion if you want.



nobody in general; just an observation.


my goal was never winning. my goal was discourse. you made a claim that i was spreading fake info, and i take that seriously. i avoid it as much as i can. my goal was to get to the truth, or as close to it as possible- not to start a pissing contest or slap fight.

I didn't ban you, so no, I did not strip you of anything. I locked that thread and told you to go back to the other one. 2-3 P+R threads is critical mass, and we already had a covid thread. My mistake there was engaging in the second thread in the first place instead of just shutting it down immediately. Mea culpa.

Just send us physical trophies then!

I will also accept snacks.

You will definitely not like the thing I actually wrote.

So... no snacks?

I guess I will have to go make my own snacks..*** Rooks interfering with my laziness...

I hate to break this news to you.

Electoral college votes, save in a few states, is a popular vote winner takes all.

Now what was your objection again?

P. S. The speed limit on that section of the Seattle freeway is 55 WHEN IT IS OPEN. It was closed.

I did at least once. I should have bookmarked it but I thought it unimportant.

I'm sorry, they don't do sisters in Wyoming. They do horses and sheep. And you don't have to be a "drooling retard" to do horses and sheep, just a pervert.

Oh well clearly you dont understand the distinction between winner takes all and national popular vote. allow me to educate you.

in a winner take all situation, for example in ohio, if 49% of ohio votes blue and 51$ votes red, 100% of the electoral votes goes to the red vote candidate.

in a national popular vote, even if 100% of the state voted red, if 51% of the country voted blue, those red votes would be cast for the blue candidate. it quite literally nullifies the balancing force of the electoral college.

one is statewide, the other is nation wide. i can accept statewide. i cant accept nation wide.

we were clearly talking about the national popular vote push since most states already have winner takes all laws.

Really don't see why people think it's even remotely possible to alter or change the Electoral College without an Constitutional Amendment.

The Constitution outlines exactly how the US President is elected, Congress can't go around rewriting that. States themselves have extremely limited control insomuch as it's 100% internal. Something like a National Popular Vote law as a State law would be rules Unconstitutional so far it would make people's heads spin. That's up there with nullifying a Jury's findings through a popular vote.

The votes from California can not change the votes in Virginia, Ohio or Texas. Each State is separate from the rest in this regard. The voting system put in place by the Constitution was done so as a compromise between big and small states. The Democrats trying to elect themselves into permanent power just smacks of all sorts of corruption here.

Biden's out there with a new green deal today.

https://joebiden.com/clean-energy/


It's all good stuff that we should want. Idealistic and expensive is the only take away I'm sure. As if it's better to put 2 trillion into new aircraft carriers instead.

Roads rails internet emissions "good" jobs housing

And people still say that Biden is a centralist.

He may had some centralist votes when he was a Senator, but that was decades ago. He has turned so far left that Stalin is now accusing him of plagiarism.

Well to be fair he's just a puppet anyway, so it shouldn't surprise anyone his "views" are those of whomever is in control of the Democrat party.

To be perfectly fair most any politician's views should align to what will get the most votes.

These are transformative times. People's views are changing. What was radical for either party is now accepted doctrine.

Right. To be honest, I honestly didn't mind Biden when he ran in the primary against Hillary. I may have even, at that time, preferred him over Trump, being I was never a Donald Trump (as a man) fan in the first place. But, that was back when Biden had a spine.

Now, he's this feeble, inarticulate literal puppet who just has become the worst waffler I've seen since, well, Hillary Clinton. I'm just waiting for him to bust a jar of hot sauce out of his coat pocket the next time he's on an all-black hosted radio talk show.