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By Prong 2020-08-17 21:05:27
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-08-17 22:03:56
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But, since I lean conservative in my later years, I do think a lot of the conservative "defense" of Trump comes more from the constant and often ridiculous attacks from those left of center politically, not from their love of Trump...and I do notice conservatives are much more apt to criticize Trump than liberals are to criticize any of their politicians.

This has been my life for the last several years. We've had years of Russian collusion conspiracy with people calling us crazy for not believing that Saint Mueller was going to expose the world to Trump's treason before perp-walking him out of the White House in handcuffs... only for the libs to declare after the fact that the investigation was only to expose "Russian meddling" as if their meddling wasn't already 100% obvious and we'd conveniently forget that Trump wasn't the centerpiece of the media's coverage the entire time.

Beyond that, every time Trump farts we get a dozen major media headlines, but blatant racism from a Democrat candidate barely gets a mention on CNN or MSNBC and the leftists in here aren't even willing to address it either.

So yeah, I'd love to have an actual discussion where I can discuss the pros and cons of Trump's presidency without the "everything Trump does is bad" crowd making sure we know that, whatever the topic is, Trump's stance is wrong, as if there was any doubt that their AI code hasn't changed in the last five minutes.
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By Prong 2020-08-17 22:28:21
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But, since I lean conservative in my later years, I do think a lot of the conservative "defense" of Trump comes more from the constant and often ridiculous attacks from those left of center politically, not from their love of Trump...and I do notice conservatives are much more apt to criticize Trump than liberals are to criticize any of their politicians.

This has been my life for the last several years. We've had years of Russian collusion conspiracy with people calling us crazy for not believing that Saint Mueller was going to expose the world to Trump's treason before perp-walking him out of the White House in handcuffs... only for the libs to declare after the fact that the investigation was only to expose "Russian meddling" as if their meddling wasn't already 100% obvious and we'd conveniently forget that Trump wasn't the centerpiece of the media's coverage the entire time.

Beyond that, every time Trump farts we get a dozen major media headlines, but blatant racism from a Democrat candidate barely gets a mention on CNN or MSNBC and the leftists in here aren't even willing to address it either.

So yeah, I'd love to have an actual discussion where I can discuss the pros and cons of Trump's presidency without the "everything Trump does is bad" crowd making sure we know that, whatever the topic is, Trump's stance is wrong, as if there was any doubt that their AI code hasn't changed in the last five minutes.

Bingo. Ideologues viewing everything through a political kaleidoscope don't need to keep reminding me, "I hate Trump." I get it, we all get it. Now, let's discuss some how your candidate is a senile, old, rich, establishment white male because yet again, your party was unable to find a decent candidate...and your VP called him a racist and rapist until he gave her a job.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-08-17 22:29:43
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Had some issues with double negatives in there, but you get the point. Trump is far from a perfect president and the dude certainly needs to learn to shut his yap sometimes, but the sheer ferociousness of the criticism is insane.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-08-17 22:30:25
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But, since I lean conservative in my later years, I do think a lot of the conservative "defense" of Trump comes more from the constant and often ridiculous attacks from those left of center politically, not from their love of Trump...and I do notice conservatives are much more apt to criticize Trump than liberals are to criticize any of their politicians.

Trumps an *** and troll who gets enjoyment from messing with other people's heads. He's arrogant, a braggart with thin skin and likely not a comfortable person to be around. Having said all that it's important to note that he's also very effective, when he's not pissing into the wind on twitter.

There are many people, some with (D) next to their name that I would of voted for over Trump, unfortunately the Democrat party would never let any of them near the center of power. The only people the Democrats allow to run are the ones who bend the knee to the party and are toe the line. The Democrat party has become the monster they swore to fight against decades ago.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-18 08:17:44
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Now, let's discuss some how your candidate is a senile, old, rich, establishment white male because yet again, your party was unable to find a decent candidate
In order for any democrat to be a decent candidate, they have to actually not appease the leftist mob at every turn.

There is a reason why the leftist mob is destroying the country. And there is no politician on the left who is brave enough to say "enough is enough".
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-18 09:27:05
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I couldn't think of a good place to put this, but this may be the best.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-18 09:32:07
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Another one from the Bee:

Kamala Harris Proposes Housing Plan Where Everybody Gets Free 10'x10' Room And Three Meals A Day



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WASHINGTON, D.C.— Following the recent announcement that Kamala Harris has been selected as Joe Biden’s running mate, Senator Harris was eager to share plans of her own if elected. Harris has now unveiled a bold, new strategy to provide affordable housing to the Americans she believes need it the most.

Harris's free housing plan will provide poor families with a clean, safe, secure concrete room, armed guards, and three full meals a day.

“Truly, I can think of no better place for these people to be contained - er I mean to live!” said Kamala Harris, smiling and taking pictures outside the facility. “No one is more deserving of going to the big house.”

Harris proceeded to give a tour of the exclusive, gated community that she hopes will soon house mass quantities of people. “The housing boasts top level security featuring high walls, barbed wire fencing, 24 hour surveillance and dedicated guards,” said the Senator. “From these towers, guards keep a watchful eye and can quickly defuse any disturbance.”

The affordable housing is laid out in fun, organized sections that they like to call "cell blocks." “The secret to cutting down costs is our innovative floor plan that combines the bathroom, bedroom, living room, and dining room into one space,” explained Harris walking through one of the blocks. “Additionally, each person has access to three government-provided, delicious bowls of gruel every day."

One resident informed us he’s tried to leave multiple times but has not been able to. He said he understands that Kamala knows what’s best for him and that they’re only keeping him there for his best interest and safety. When pressed for a comment Kamala simply laughed it off.

At publishing time several reports indicated that there was a mostly peaceful riot in the yard.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-18 09:40:54
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AOC Cast As Tree At Convention



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WASHINGTON, D.C.—The list of speakers for the Democratic National Convention has been released. And while “Squad” member Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be on stage, she will be in the non-speaking role of a tree.

“It’s a very prominent role,” Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi explained. “She’ll be on stage a lot, standing in the background while people like Bill Clinton, Mike Bloomberg, and John Kasich speak. Plus, Ocasio-Cortez loves the environment, which I believe involves trees or something. At least that's what my butler said last time he went outside to fetch me ice cream.”

It’s unclear how Ocasio-Cortez can help further her left-wing agenda as a tree, as she has been told all she is to do is “stand very still and smile.” Ocasio-Cortez hasn’t yet commented on her role; she’s not allowed to speak since she’s supposed to be “getting in character.”
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By volkom 2020-08-18 10:17:20
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anyone see someone stealing mail boxes?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-18 10:22:22
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anyone see someone stealing mail boxes?
Every now and then some *** decides to steal mail left overnight on my road.

The problem is, after it happened once, I set up a security camera on my mail box and capture the license plates of the aholes who try that afterwards. Since it's a federal crime I'm supposed to report it to the FBI, but I have a person from my sheriff's office I give to instead who turns it over to the feds.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-08-18 13:59:54
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Another one from the Bee:

Kamala Harris Proposes Housing Plan Where Everybody Gets Free 10'x10' Room And Three Meals A Day



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WASHINGTON, D.C.— Following the recent announcement that Kamala Harris has been selected as Joe Biden’s running mate, Senator Harris was eager to share plans of her own if elected. Harris has now unveiled a bold, new strategy to provide affordable housing to the Americans she believes need it the most.

Harris's free housing plan will provide poor families with a clean, safe, secure concrete room, armed guards, and three full meals a day.

“Truly, I can think of no better place for these people to be contained - er I mean to live!” said Kamala Harris, smiling and taking pictures outside the facility. “No one is more deserving of going to the big house.”

Harris proceeded to give a tour of the exclusive, gated community that she hopes will soon house mass quantities of people. “The housing boasts top level security featuring high walls, barbed wire fencing, 24 hour surveillance and dedicated guards,” said the Senator. “From these towers, guards keep a watchful eye and can quickly defuse any disturbance.”

The affordable housing is laid out in fun, organized sections that they like to call "cell blocks." “The secret to cutting down costs is our innovative floor plan that combines the bathroom, bedroom, living room, and dining room into one space,” explained Harris walking through one of the blocks. “Additionally, each person has access to three government-provided, delicious bowls of gruel every day."

One resident informed us he’s tried to leave multiple times but has not been able to. He said he understands that Kamala knows what’s best for him and that they’re only keeping him there for his best interest and safety. When pressed for a comment Kamala simply laughed it off.

At publishing time several reports indicated that there was a mostly peaceful riot in the yard.

Certainly a far cry from "40 acres and a mule".
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-08-18 14:01:25
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USPS patents secure voting tech based on Blockchain

...ready in February.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-08-18 14:13:53
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Blockchain lost a lot of it's hype this year, but I could see internet voting with blockchain in thefuture.

Maybe not though, too many poor people would be encouraged to vote that way, can't have that.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-08-18 14:20:37
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Blockchain lost a lot of it's hype this year, but I could see internet voting with blockchain in thefuture.

Maybe not though, too many poor people would be encouraged to vote that way, can't have that.

-Introduce a "solution" to all the complaints/fears about mail in voting with a fancy buzzword that less than half your voting masses understand.

-PLAN its release actually after the Constitutionally mandated date that Presidential electoral votes must be counted.

-the public sheep go along with that fancy new buzz word in the name of security.

-new tech gets constantly pushed back for "testing", etc...no election.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-08-18 14:35:18
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You can't introduce a "solution" to a "problem" that isn't a "problem". It's "broken" on purpose. They aren't looking for a "solution". They just want to *** about it so it looks like they care.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2020-08-18 14:37:52
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
You can't introduce a "solution" to a "problem" that isn't a "problem". It's "broken" on purpose. They aren't looking for a "solution". They just want to *** about it so it looks like they care.

dude, that's exactly what I was trying to convey- they create a problem then present a solution to the problem they create in order to look like heroes...when in reality its just a stalling technique.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-08-18 15:06:58
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Prong said: »
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But, since I lean conservative in my later years, I do think a lot of the conservative "defense" of Trump comes more from the constant and often ridiculous attacks from those left of center politically, not from their love of Trump
Donald Trump Job Approval by Party Identification

2020 Jul 30-Aug 12 R 90% I 39% D 5% Gallup

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...and I do notice conservatives are much more apt to criticize Trump than liberals are to criticize any of their politicians.
The Lincoln project says hi. the other 90% love him.
By volkom 2020-08-18 15:49:09
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since we like polls

https://thejewishvoice.com/2020/08/21-point-shift-away-from-biden-with-non-white-vote-after-kamala-pick/
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By Viciouss 2020-08-18 15:57:21
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Seems like that blogger is having a hard time with math.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-08-18 16:36:36
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Prong said: »
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But, since I lean conservative in my later years, I do think a lot of the conservative "defense" of Trump comes more from the constant and often ridiculous attacks from those left of center politically, not from their love of Trump
Donald Trump Job Approval by Party Identification

2020 Jul 30-Aug 12 R 90% I 39% D 5% Gallup

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...and I do notice conservatives are much more apt to criticize Trump than liberals are to criticize any of their politicians.
The Lincoln project says hi. the other 90% love him.

"Approval" is not the same as "love". You can even think he's doing a good job and still not want to vote for him for other reasons. It's unwise to inject your own conjecture into polling questions.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-18 16:51:15
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By Prong 2020-08-18 19:31:07
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Prong said: »
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But, since I lean conservative in my later years, I do think a lot of the conservative "defense" of Trump comes more from the constant and often ridiculous attacks from those left of center politically, not from their love of Trump
Donald Trump Job Approval by Party Identification

2020 Jul 30-Aug 12 R 90% I 39% D 5% Gallup

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...and I do notice conservatives are much more apt to criticize Trump than liberals are to criticize any of their politicians.
The Lincoln project says hi. the other 90% love him.

Chanti, lol. Just look at these forum posts, I mean, I have not seen anyone, even Hideko when he was on here, avoid any and all criticism of Trump and only lump praise on him.

But I've yet to see you or Vic say one negative thing about Biden, or AOC, or Pelosi, or Schumer, Or Obama, etc., etc. Hell, I don't even recall you saying anything bad about Hillary which is as easy as demonizing Trump. Let's not try and act like what I said is even remotely untrue. Liberals have a much stronger hive mentality when it comes to criticizing their own politicians, publicly, in 2020. That wasn't always the case, but it is atm. You guys act like if you try and show any form of middle-ground common sense in these discussions that the Vegan Police will appear and take your voter registration card.

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By Prong 2020-08-18 19:39:35
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Blockchain lost a lot of it's hype this year, but I could see internet voting with blockchain in thefuture.

Maybe not though, too many poor people would be encouraged to vote that way, can't have that.

I honestly don't see more "poor people" voting as necessarily being advantageous for Democrats. I'm sure you've seen how liberals arguing against people who make claims about minorities being on social services love to show statistics proving several red states have a larger debit to GNP ratio than do blue states and a larger amount of poor white people on social welfare...states such as Alabama. Not sure if you know but, there are a ton of impoverished, "good ol' boys" in those states. Doubt they vote for Kamala Harris.

The only "poor" voting block that will overwhelmingly aid the Democrats are illegal immigrants, who legally should not be voting at all, which is the main reason why liberals are in favor of mail-in voting. Don't have to present that photo ID verification to your mailbox.
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By Prong 2020-08-18 19:46:16
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They just want to *** about it so it looks like they care.


You just described 99% of the bills the House has pushed through since Jan. 2019.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-08-18 19:48:12
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I have often said, here, on this forum, that Hillary was the wrong candidate and she ran a lousy campaign.
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By Prong 2020-08-18 21:27:00
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I have often said, here, on this forum, that Hillary was the wrong candidate and she ran a lousy campaign.


Well I'm glad you at least tossed Hillary in there, even though I have not seen it, I'll take your word.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-08-18 23:05:55
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I have often said, here, on this forum, that Hillary was the wrong candidate and she ran a lousy campaign.
I think I seen you say it...what...once? Maybe twice?

Still not on the same level of criticism that Ravael, Savael, or myself have made on Trump, even back in 2016. Trump Thread is proof there.
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