Asura.Eiryl said: »
Dems want to give 1.1 Trillion to states.
Reps want to give 1.1 Trillion TOTAL.
Reps want to give 1.1 Trillion TOTAL.
Ah ok, yeah, that chart needs a legend. Geez, that's nuts.
Election 2020 The Horse Race (Not Misspelled)
Election 2020 the horse race (Not misspelled)
Ok got some, what does "higher education funding" have to do with stimulus? Colleges and universities are already overpaid as is by crushing student loans and taxpayer dollars. High education institutions should be the last on the list for any more financial support. Richest of the rich and don't even produce or supply any goods.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Yeah there's some crap on both sides that can be shaved, but that "higher education funding" is the big one, take that out altogether. Little too much concern for defense spending in a stimulus package meant for the general population as well, but the numbers aren't nearly as egregious. Would also like some more detail about what entails, "changes in retirement and pension plans."
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And *** the Post Office, it's 2020, Send an email, get direct deposit, use PayPal.
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Prong said: »
Viciouss said: »
Prong said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
This is "that ***"
Negotiate only the things relevant to covid. No military budget, no green new deal, no tax breaks, no slush funds.
UI. Eviction. PPP. More stimuli. Testing funds. That's it.
pass all the other ***in their own bills. This whole stuff everything possible into every bill as bargaining chips is full blown cancer.
Negotiate only the things relevant to covid. No military budget, no green new deal, no tax breaks, no slush funds.
UI. Eviction. PPP. More stimuli. Testing funds. That's it.
pass all the other ***in their own bills. This whole stuff everything possible into every bill as bargaining chips is full blown cancer.
Put, "The House should..." before the word, "Negotiate" and all will be forgiven, Grasshopper.
The House is negotiating, and they will continue to, as soon as the GOP comes back to the table they walked away from so they could accomplish nothing. just like with the Cares Act, we are waiting on the GOP.
"We." Ok calm down, you're not actually an elected official, I hope you know this. Like, you don't really play for the Cubs so I hope you don't say, "we" when talking shop on sports, too.
The House only negotiated length of time, they refused to remove the pork that is holding up the deal.
We as in all of America is waiting on the GOP to come back to the table they staged a walk out on. All of America needs help, Trump isn't doing anything. No one should be expecting an additional 800 dollars in their next unemployment check as a result of Trump's dead EO.
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Viciouss said: »
Prong said: »
Viciouss said: »
Prong said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
This is "that ***"
Negotiate only the things relevant to covid. No military budget, no green new deal, no tax breaks, no slush funds.
UI. Eviction. PPP. More stimuli. Testing funds. That's it.
pass all the other ***in their own bills. This whole stuff everything possible into every bill as bargaining chips is full blown cancer.
Negotiate only the things relevant to covid. No military budget, no green new deal, no tax breaks, no slush funds.
UI. Eviction. PPP. More stimuli. Testing funds. That's it.
pass all the other ***in their own bills. This whole stuff everything possible into every bill as bargaining chips is full blown cancer.
Put, "The House should..." before the word, "Negotiate" and all will be forgiven, Grasshopper.
The House is negotiating, and they will continue to, as soon as the GOP comes back to the table they walked away from so they could accomplish nothing. just like with the Cares Act, we are waiting on the GOP.
"We." Ok calm down, you're not actually an elected official, I hope you know this. Like, you don't really play for the Cubs so I hope you don't say, "we" when talking shop on sports, too.
The House only negotiated length of time, they refused to remove the pork that is holding up the deal.
We as in all of America is waiting on the GOP to come back to the table they staged a walk out on. All of America needs help, Trump isn't doing anything. No one should be expecting an additional 800 dollars in their next unemployment check as a result of Trump's dead EO.
You meant "we" as in the Dems, don't lie. You aren't wriggling out of that, fanboy!
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I mean really, it was just Mark Meadows that walked out, Pelosi and Schumer should just negotiate with Moscow Mitch until the WH decides it wants to come crawling back. No one is falling for his divisive tactics. The Senate GOP was already skeptical of his ability to swing a deal given his failed history as a Congressman. His kind of nonsense isn't going to work against actual leaders.
Prong said: »
Viciouss said: »
Prong said: »
Viciouss said: »
Prong said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
This is "that ***"
Negotiate only the things relevant to covid. No military budget, no green new deal, no tax breaks, no slush funds.
UI. Eviction. PPP. More stimuli. Testing funds. That's it.
pass all the other ***in their own bills. This whole stuff everything possible into every bill as bargaining chips is full blown cancer.
Negotiate only the things relevant to covid. No military budget, no green new deal, no tax breaks, no slush funds.
UI. Eviction. PPP. More stimuli. Testing funds. That's it.
pass all the other ***in their own bills. This whole stuff everything possible into every bill as bargaining chips is full blown cancer.
Put, "The House should..." before the word, "Negotiate" and all will be forgiven, Grasshopper.
The House is negotiating, and they will continue to, as soon as the GOP comes back to the table they walked away from so they could accomplish nothing. just like with the Cares Act, we are waiting on the GOP.
"We." Ok calm down, you're not actually an elected official, I hope you know this. Like, you don't really play for the Cubs so I hope you don't say, "we" when talking shop on sports, too.
The House only negotiated length of time, they refused to remove the pork that is holding up the deal.
We as in all of America is waiting on the GOP to come back to the table they staged a walk out on. All of America needs help, Trump isn't doing anything. No one should be expecting an additional 800 dollars in their next unemployment check as a result of Trump's dead EO.
You meant "we" as in the Dems, don't lie. You aren't wriggling out of that, fanboy!
I'm good, thanks.
Viciouss said: »
I mean really, it was just Mark Meadows that walked out, Pelosi and Schumer should just negotiate with Moscow Mitch until the WH decides it wants to come crawling back. No one is falling for his divisive tactics. The Senate GOP was already skeptical of his ability to swing a deal given his failed history as a Congressman. His kind of nonsense isn't going to work against actual leaders.
Hilarious how you put Pelosi and Schumer in the same context as, "actual leaders" but....
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Prong said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Yeah there's some crap on both sides that can be shaved, but that "higher education funding" is the big one, take that out altogether. Little too much concern for defense spending in a stimulus package meant for the general population as well, but the numbers aren't nearly as egregious. Would also like some more detail about what entails, "changes in retirement and pension plans."
The Dem's is a huge handout to the Liberal Universities and unfunded Democrat pensions.
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What do you guys think the chances are Biden's idea is to try to win the presidency and either resign 2-3 years in or not run for reelection, thus making his VP president? I feel like the one-term idea would be a bad idea since his short list seems to be 2020 candidates who didn't get very far.
So IF Biden actually won it would look like Trump -> Biden -> election between Republican and Biden's VP. Considering the VP will likely be considered a "weak" candidate, following 4 years of a Democrat president, the Republican will probably win.
Though I'm cynical as ***and tend to believe we have a president from the opposite party every 8 years because we just get fed up with the current party.
So IF Biden actually won it would look like Trump -> Biden -> election between Republican and Biden's VP. Considering the VP will likely be considered a "weak" candidate, following 4 years of a Democrat president, the Republican will probably win.
Though I'm cynical as ***and tend to believe we have a president from the opposite party every 8 years because we just get fed up with the current party.
No chance Biden would resign. Not seeking reelection is possible tho. There is also no reason to think Bidens VP would be a weak candidate.
Viciouss said: »
No chance Biden would resign. Not seeking reelection is possible tho. There is also no reason to think Bidens VP would be a weak candidate.
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And given that the Dems are having such a hard time pulling the trigger on choosing a VP, that doesn’t bode well. If there was an obvious, strong choice for the position then it would be more apparent by now.
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They are following the same timeline that both Obama and Trump used. Pence wasn't selected until a couple of days before the convention, and Biden wasn't chosen until late August. They just did the final round of 1 on 1 interviews, no reason to think they are having a hard time.
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Anna Ruthven said: »
What do you guys think the chances are Biden's idea is to try to win the presidency and either resign 2-3 years in or not run for reelection, thus making his VP president? I feel like the one-term idea would be a bad idea since his short list seems to be 2020 candidates who didn't get very far.
So IF Biden actually won it would look like Trump -> Biden -> election between Republican and Biden's VP. Considering the VP will likely be considered a "weak" candidate, following 4 years of a Democrat president, the Republican will probably win.
Though I'm cynical as ***and tend to believe we have a president from the opposite party every 8 years because we just get fed up with the current party.
So IF Biden actually won it would look like Trump -> Biden -> election between Republican and Biden's VP. Considering the VP will likely be considered a "weak" candidate, following 4 years of a Democrat president, the Republican will probably win.
Though I'm cynical as ***and tend to believe we have a president from the opposite party every 8 years because we just get fed up with the current party.
More like within 12 to 18 months he'll resign due to "medical complications". He's already displaying the symptoms of early dementia which is the reason the Democrats are keeping him as far away from the cameras as possible.
https://www.healthline.com/health/dementia/early-warning-signs.
As President he won't be able to do much without assistance, meaning his VP / Democrat appointed cabinet are going to be the real power running the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
The VP's job is basically anything the President asks them to do. They can do anything the President can, provided the President first delegates that authority to them. This is the reason everyone is watching out for who Peloski will pick as his VP.
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volkom said: »
pelosi should run for pres with schiff as vp
Well they are, just by proxy. Who do we think is pulling Biden's strings and telling him what to say?
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Oh hey, more baseless conspiracy theories about Biden's health. Its a common theme. Lets not forget that Biden was everywhere before covid, and he participated in all 12 Democrat debates, the last one being in March of this year.
Viciouss said: »
They are following the same timeline that both Obama and Trump used. Pence wasn't selected until a couple of days before the convention, and Biden wasn't chosen until late August. They just did the final round of 1 on 1 interviews, no reason to think they are having a hard time.
Except for the fact that they missed their own deadline of an announcement by the first of the month. Then again, it was Biden himself who stated that goal, so it's unclear that he knew for sure what month he was referring to.
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Viciouss said: »
Oh hey, more baseless conspiracy theories about Biden's health. Its a common theme. Lets not forget that Biden was everywhere before covid, and he participated in all 12 Democrat debates, the last one being in March of this year.
Ah, yes. The old Democrat election strategy of "pretend the problem that everyone knows about doesn't actually exist". It worked so well for Clinton that we have to bring it back for another go!
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Viciouss said: »
No chance Biden would resign. Not seeking reelection is possible tho. There is also no reason to think Bidens VP would be a weak candidate.
Asura.Saevel said: »
Who do we think is pulling Biden's strings and telling him what to say?
AOC and Bernie.
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Viciouss said: »
No chance Biden would resign. Not seeking reelection is possible tho. There is also no reason to think Bidens VP would be a weak candidate.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
They are following the same timeline that both Obama and Trump used. Pence wasn't selected until a couple of days before the convention, and Biden wasn't chosen until late August. They just did the final round of 1 on 1 interviews, no reason to think they are having a hard time.
Except for the fact that they missed their own deadline of an announcement by the first of the month. Then again, it was Biden himself who stated that goal, so it's unclear that he knew for sure what month he was referring to.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Oh hey, more baseless conspiracy theories about Biden's health. Its a common theme. Lets not forget that Biden was everywhere before covid, and he participated in all 12 Democrat debates, the last one being in March of this year.
Ah, yes. The old Democrat election strategy of "pretend the problem that everyone knows about doesn't actually exist". It worked so well for Clinton that we have to bring it back for another go!
/yawn. Hooking on to the baseless conspiracy theory doesn't help it. You know Trump checks off way more signs of early onset than Biden right? By a huge margin. That probably explains why this fake narrative is being pursued so heavily, its just cover for Trump's own health problems. Its not like Biden's gaffes are a sudden development.
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