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By Valefor.Commodus 2020-06-01 23:42:26
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »This is helping Trump actually. The people getting looted and their businesses and homes destroyed are probably voters and they will be the ones to show up and remember this horror. The far left is advocating for the looting to continue and not to be stopped
Joe Biden is not far left lmfao
Right? Everyone on the right is super scared of this far left boogeyman, meanwhile the actual candidate from "the left" is a boring, middle of the road dude. *** man, dude said his police reform would be to train to shoot at the leg, lol. The far left movement in America is a minority of the leftist party, but everyone's all afraid of them cause they've been taught to be scared.
He never even mentioned biden. You people are illiterate.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2020-06-01 23:42:42
Buddy, I KNOW you know what the word "ratio" means.
Go back to the *** graph you posted. 60% of the WHOLE POPULATION is white but only 37% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES are white; 13% of the population is black, but 23.4% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES ARE BLACK
1.8 is way bigger than 0.61!!! As in, the average black person is three times more likely to be killed by a cop.
More white people are dying because America has more white people. Are you daft or just full-on racistposting? If you just admit it's the latter I'll stop pestering you.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2020-06-01 23:43:30
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »This is helping Trump actually. The people getting looted and their businesses and homes destroyed are probably voters and they will be the ones to show up and remember this horror. The far left is advocating for the looting to continue and not to be stopped
And I'm sure those people will be silent if/when Trump brings in the military and starts mowing down American citizens. Because people like you can't get over the looting and see the whole picture here.
This is so extremely stupid. I do hope you'll come back and apologize for being a sensationalist to dizzying extremes when this definitely does not happen. This is absolute peak TDS.
Trump gassed people so he could walk across the street at a church and pose with a Bible. He also called in the military, and told all the governors, "You have to dominate...and put them away in jail for a long time." I don't know how you can say I have TDS and not be worried as *** about the implications of those actions and words.
By Ruaumoko 2020-06-01 23:44:41
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »And I'm sure those people will be silent if/when Trump brings in the military and starts mowing down American citizens. Because people like you can't get over the looting and see the whole picture here. The military will be deployed as a deterrent. Soldiers firing on civilians without first being fired upon is a legit starter for a civil war, everyone knows it and will avoid it.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2020-06-01 23:45:32
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »This is helping Trump actually. The people getting looted and their businesses and homes destroyed are probably voters and they will be the ones to show up and remember this horror. The far left is advocating for the looting to continue and not to be stopped
Joe Biden is not far left lmfao
Right? Everyone on the right is super scared of this far left boogeyman, meanwhile the actual candidate from "the left" is a boring, middle of the road dude. *** man, dude said his police reform would be to train to shoot at the leg, lol. The far left movement in America is a minority of the leftist party, but everyone's all afraid of them cause they've been taught to be scared.
He never even mentioned biden. You people are illiterate.
Someone covered this but you didn't get there yet so I'll catch you up:
Draylo was arguing people are going to vote for Trump because the far left is in support of this looting. Except the person you'd not vote for is Biden, who is absolutely not far left. So I know logic is a difficult one for some people, but Draylo was effectively saying Biden is the far left since they'll shift their vote away from him because of the far lefts support of looting.
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By Asura.Topace 2020-06-01 23:45:58
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Buddy, I KNOW you know what the word "ratio" means.
Go back to the *** graph you posted. 60% of the WHOLE POPULATION is white but only 37% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES are white; 13% of the population is black, but 23.4% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES ARE BLACK
1.8 is way bigger than 0.61!!! As in, the average black person is three times more likely to be killed by a cop.
More white people are dying because America has more white people. Are you daft or just full-on racistposting? If you just admit it's the latter I'll stop pestering you. I don’t think his mathematic skills are up to par.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2020-06-01 23:46:53
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If the Democrats got the fringe element of their party quarantined and brought forward more moderate policies then they'd absolutely crush it at elections. Some of the policies the Democrats are currently championing are too extreme even by European Socialism standards, and I say this as one who has lived in nations under such administrations.
Like what, specifically? Easiest and most obvious one to present is Universal Healthcare.
I will seriously contest your point about American leftism. Universal Healthcare in any capacity is not just extremely pervasive in Europe and other Western states, but is something America doesn't even have. The only person advocating Universal Healthcare was Bernie Sanders and did you SEE how much pushback he got for that?
Other countries have single-payer plans, American has private health insurance. We are waaaaaaay to the right of the rest of the West, dude...
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2020-06-01 23:46:59
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »And I'm sure those people will be silent if/when Trump brings in the military and starts mowing down American citizens. Because people like you can't get over the looting and see the whole picture here. The military will be deployed as a deterrent. Soldiers firing on civilians without first being fired upon is a legit starter for a civil war, everyone knows it and will avoid it.
Wonderful hope. I'm just going to hope you're *** right. After seeing hundreds of instances of cops going way too far, I'm not 100% confident the military will be a saving force, or an oppressive force. I sure as *** hope it's the former, but after the last few years hope is but a pipe dream here in America.
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By Valefor.Commodus 2020-06-01 23:47:28
Better voice your opinions to strangers over the internet, as if it will have any overall effect other than you wasting your time, while you can.
First post on this thread:
Why you thought this was a good idea because "this site has become boring" or whatever your stated reason was is beyond me. You knew what would happen. Feigning ignorance about the racial implications of the situation and the shi*storm that would follow by bringing it onto this site with a thread by claiming "I thought this was about Corona virus" is easily negated as if that was the case, you could/would have posted in that thread about Corona virus that wouldn't die.
You're a bad person and you should feel bad. No more memes for you.
Note: Blocking the OP of the thread doesn't make the thread invisible on the main page. Rooks does though, however.
You must be a blast at parties.
Yeah. I am pretty fun to party with. However, the parties I hang out at don't let people that post "I'm not racist. I'd fu** a *****" on video game forum threads though where the ***** is an undeniable racist slur.
That post I mentioned is pending moderation, but it happened. How dare I report racism in the thread that is going to get nuked! I must be so lame because I let racism go un-checked.
Who posted that?
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-06-01 23:47:57
So the Progressives declared independence and started a Civil War yet?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2020-06-01 23:48:21
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
If the Democrats got the fringe element of their party quarantined and brought forward more moderate policies then they'd absolutely crush it at elections. Some of the policies the Democrats are currently championing are too extreme even by European Socialism standards, and I say this as one who has lived in nations under such administrations.
Like what, specifically? Easiest and most obvious one to present is Universal Healthcare.
I will seriously contest your point about American leftism. Universal Healthcare in any capacity is not just extremely pervasive in Europe and other Western states, but is something America doesn't even have. The only person advocating Universal Healthcare was Bernie Sanders and did you SEE how much pushback he got for that?
Other countries have single-payer plans, American has private health insurance. We are waaaaaaay to the right of the rest of the West, dude...
Not only did he get a LOT of pushback from it, Biden has vowed to veto Medicare 4 All. The actual presidential candidate from the Democratic party has said he would veto the "easy example" Ruau just tossed out for the Dem party going fringe and socialist.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2020-06-01 23:48:31
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »And I'm sure those people will be silent if/when Trump brings in the military and starts mowing down American citizens. Because people like you can't get over the looting and see the whole picture here. The military will be deployed as a deterrent. Soldiers firing on civilians without first being fired upon is a legit starter for a civil war, everyone knows it and will avoid it.
I think you give our country too much credit. The President literally posted a tweet about how he wanted to shoot citizens just for looting.
Like theoretically, YES, but this is the same country that turned the Coronovirus into a partisan issue somehow. And, you know, elected Trump.
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By Valefor.Commodus 2020-06-01 23:48:50
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Clearly opposing rioting and looting of people who have NOTHING to do with that mans death, means you're a racist. I wonder what you'll say when it effects you? He uses "boomers" to describe everyone here, maybe he still lives with mom and never had his own business to care about.
Clearly despite being in both this thread and BG you haven't noticed there are COUNTLESS examples of protesters STOPPING LOOTERS, as well as countless videos showing looting being literally anyone. Meanwhile this thread devolved into talking about blacks commit all the crimes because of their genetics.
Looters are opportunists operating in the 'shadow' of the protests. They are politically neutral, they give no *** about the politics, they're just out to get their own. Think about how the GOP passes tax cut or bailout bills, they care about their own, *** the rest. The only way you're stopping looters is by stopping the protesters, the only way you're stopping these protesters is by dealing with why they're protesting.
Instead, you're going around these thread crying about looters, which doesn't solve a *** thing.
Talk about off-topic... but tell me honestly, did you benefit from the most recent tax cuts? Did you receive $1,200 Trump bux of individual bailout money? yeah...
No, didn't get anything from the tax cuts. And if you think that $1200 is "from Trump" you're a buffoon. Just because he signed his name on the check (or a letter if you got direct deposit, he actually sent a *** letter so he could have his name signed taking responsibility for it, *** ROFL) doesn't mean the check was his idea or any such thing. The check has happened before, and is supported drastically more from the left than the right, so to try to claim it as a Trump thing is just lol.
Ah so Republican senate and Republican president gave you free money but *** them, that's just the GOP looking out for their own. What an ingrate. Also unless you don't work, you benefited from the tax cuts.
Rofl, so I'm supposed to be thankful they gave out $3-5 trillion, and $450B went to the American people? Meanwhile the Dems have been calling for more money to the American people and the GOP have very clearly said *** right off.
I guess I should be thankful the cop didn't rough me up when he pulled me over, too? What an ingrate I am, rofl.
Yes, you're supposed to be thankful for receiving gifts. A lot of people didn't receive anything and no one was obligated to give you anything. When you receiving something of value and then spit on the people that gave it to you, you meet the definition of an ingrate.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2020-06-01 23:50:42
So the Progressives declared independence and started a Civil War yet?
Honestly I wish we could have The Great Negotiator come out with a deal and just let the states vote to stay or create their own United States. A diplomatic civil war. Just make Brexit look like a child's game. We're so split as a nation it's probably for the best.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2020-06-01 23:51:28
Yes, you're supposed to be thankful for receiving gifts. A lot of people didn't receive anything and no one was obligated to give you anything. When you receiving something of value and then spit on the people that gave it to you, you meet the definition of an ingrate.
If your boss gave you a pay cut and took that money for himself, you absolutely should be pissed off. That doesn't suddenly change just because "you got something."
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By Valefor.Commodus 2020-06-01 23:52:22
This is helping Trump actually. The people getting looted and their businesses and homes destroyed are probably voters and they will be the ones to show up and remember this horror. The far left is advocating for the looting to continue and not to be stopped
You’re not the first person who’s said this recently and you should be reminded that Trump couldn’t stop it from happening when he was President. He won’t be able to stop it if he’s reelected and civil unrest happens again. Wake up off that nonsense.
He absolutely could stop it, it's called posse comitatus. You don't want that, you would lose bigly. He's not going to do this, but it seems like you kind of want him to because you think it'll prove a point. I'll also point out that some of you are going apeshit claiming that orange man is definitely going to "call in the military and mow down citizens," and you're claiming that he "can't." Get your propaganda straight.
By Draylo 2020-06-01 23:52:33
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »So the Progressives declared independence and started a Civil War yet?
Honestly I wish we could have The Great Negotiator come out with a deal and just let the states vote to stay or create their own United States. A diplomatic civil war. Just make Brexit look like a child's game. We're so split as a nation it's probably for the best.
You can have the looters join your state
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2020-06-01 23:53:54
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »So the Progressives declared independence and started a Civil War yet?
Honestly I wish we could have The Great Negotiator come out with a deal and just let the states vote to stay or create their own United States. A diplomatic civil war. Just make Brexit look like a child's game. We're so split as a nation it's probably for the best.
You can have the looters join your state
I hope the cops join your state
By Ruaumoko 2020-06-01 23:55:10
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »I will seriously contest your point about American leftism. Universal Healthcare in any capacity is not just extremely pervasive in Europe and other Western states, but is something America doesn't even have. The only person advocating Universal Healthcare was Bernie Sanders and did you SEE how much pushback he got for that?
Other countries have single-payer plans, American has private health insurance. We are waaaaaaay to the right of the rest of the West, dude... European Universal Healthcare is often treated like some sacred cow and needs a lot of clarification. Does every single European nation have a form of emergency healthcare for those who end up in trouble without the need for insurance? Yes, I do not contest that. However, not everything is free of charge; it's not a charity like some on the hard left want.
The UK especially has a very hard time maintaining it's NHS, which is a shame because it began as an earnest and honorable organization. This is because too many people began treating it like a charity and caused several regional trusts to collapse, resulting in government intervention and subsequently higher taxation.
The best system I've experienced, personally as well when I ended up in serious trouble myself, is in New Zealand. New Zealand uses a system called Medical Alliancing. Short of it is that all healthcare is private but all doctors/surgeons/nurses are also contracted and subsidized by the government through a light tax rate to provide free care to people who are in serious trouble regardless of their financial status.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2020-06-01 23:56:52
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »So the Progressives declared independence and started a Civil War yet?
Honestly I wish we could have The Great Negotiator come out with a deal and just let the states vote to stay or create their own United States. A diplomatic civil war. Just make Brexit look like a child's game. We're so split as a nation it's probably for the best.
You can have the looters join your state
Considering the looters are your neighbors, you'll be keeping them, while also being in the 3rd biggest GDP state, with the highest GDP per capita. I'm sure you can move to MS, they've got great schools.
By boleslaus21 2020-06-01 23:57:31
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Clearly opposing rioting and looting of people who have NOTHING to do with that mans death, means you're a racist. I wonder what you'll say when it effects you? He uses "boomers" to describe everyone here, maybe he still lives with mom and never had his own business to care about.
Clearly despite being in both this thread and BG you haven't noticed there are COUNTLESS examples of protesters STOPPING LOOTERS, as well as countless videos showing looting being literally anyone. Meanwhile this thread devolved into talking about blacks commit all the crimes because of their genetics.
Looters are opportunists operating in the 'shadow' of the protests. They are politically neutral, they give no *** about the politics, they're just out to get their own. Think about how the GOP passes tax cut or bailout bills, they care about their own, *** the rest. The only way you're stopping looters is by stopping the protesters, the only way you're stopping these protesters is by dealing with why they're protesting.
Instead, you're going around these thread crying about looters, which doesn't solve a *** thing.
Talk about off-topic... but tell me honestly, did you benefit from the most recent tax cuts? Did you receive $1,200 Trump bux of individual bailout money? yeah...
No, didn't get anything from the tax cuts. And if you think that $1200 is "from Trump" you're a buffoon. Just because he signed his name on the check (or a letter if you got direct deposit, he actually sent a *** letter so he could have his name signed taking responsibility for it, *** ROFL) doesn't mean the check was his idea or any such thing. The check has happened before, and is supported drastically more from the left than the right, so to try to claim it as a Trump thing is just lol.
Ah so Republican senate and Republican president gave you free money but *** them, that's just the GOP looking out for their own. What an ingrate. Also unless you don't work, you benefited from the tax cuts.
Rofl, so I'm supposed to be thankful they gave out $3-5 trillion, and $450B went to the American people? Meanwhile the Dems have been calling for more money to the American people and the GOP have very clearly said *** right off.
I guess I should be thankful the cop didn't rough me up when he pulled me over, too? What an ingrate I am, rofl.
Yes, you're supposed to be thankful for receiving gifts. A lot of people didn't receive anything and no one was obligated to give you anything. When you receiving something of value and then spit on the people that gave it to you, you meet the definition of an ingrate.
you guys realize the gov 1. gave you back money you put in already 2. will raise the tax over the next 10 years to get that money back
By boleslaus21 2020-06-01 23:59:20
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »So the Progressives declared independence and started a Civil War yet?
Honestly I wish we could have The Great Negotiator come out with a deal and just let the states vote to stay or create their own United States. A diplomatic civil war. Just make Brexit look like a child's game. We're so split as a nation it's probably for the best.
You can have the looters join your state
Considering the looters are your neighbors, you'll be keeping them, while also being in the 3rd biggest GDP state, with the highest GDP per capita. I'm sure you can move to MS, they've got great schools.
i wouldnt worry about that the rioter will just burn everything down and china will take over and we will just becoma a communist country
By Quizzy 2020-06-02 00:00:12
Step 1 - Data dump
Step 2 - Ignore counter points
Step 3 - Attack opposing data sources
Step 4 - Tell everyone who doesn't agree that they can't read or can't understand
Step 5 - Increasingly over the top rhetoric
Step 6 - Pushing the boundaries of reason to the breaking point
Step 7 - Thread shut down
Step 8 - Repeat
Everyone having fun?
By Ruaumoko 2020-06-02 00:00:31
Checking out from the thread.
Will just wish everyone over there in the thick of it well. Please be safe.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2020-06-02 00:01:14
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »I will seriously contest your point about American leftism. Universal Healthcare in any capacity is not just extremely pervasive in Europe and other Western states, but is something America doesn't even have. The only person advocating Universal Healthcare was Bernie Sanders and did you SEE how much pushback he got for that?
Other countries have single-payer plans, American has private health insurance. We are waaaaaaay to the right of the rest of the West, dude... European Universal Healthcare is often treated like some sacred cow and needs a lot of clarification. Does every single European nation have a form of emergency healthcare for those who end up in trouble without the need for insurance? Yes, I do not contest that. However, not everything is free of charge; it's not a charity like some on the hard left want.
The UK especially has a very hard time maintaining it's NHS, which is a shame because it began as an earnest and honorable organization. This is because too many people began treating it like a charity and caused several regional trusts to collapse, resulting in government intervention and subsequently higher taxation.
The best system I've experienced, personally as well when I ended up in serious trouble myself, is in New Zealand. New Zealand uses a system called Medical Alliancing. Short of it is that all healthcare is private but all doctors/surgeons/nurses are also contracted and subsidized by the government through a light tax rate to provide free care to people who are in serious trouble regardless of their financial status.
I know about a lot of the problems, they're not perfect solutions. Your assertion is that the Far Left actually has some kind of power and that we are somehow "to the left" of other countries in terms of policy agenda. We're not. NHS and Medical Alliancing are still more socialist than what America has, regardless of efficacy.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2020-06-02 00:02:50
Step 1 - Data dump
Step 2 - Ignore counter points
Step 3 - Attack opposing data sources
Step 4 - Tell everyone who doesn't agree that they can't read or can't understand
Step 5 - Increasingly over the top rhetoric
Step 6 - Pushing the boundaries of reason to the breaking point
Step 7 - Thread shut down
Step 8 - Repeat
Everyone having fun?
IDK I haven't read the whole thread but this argument seems pretty one-sided atm
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By Valefor.Commodus 2020-06-02 00:09:29
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Buddy, I KNOW you know what the word "ratio" means.
Go back to the *** graph you posted. 60% of the WHOLE POPULATION is white but only 37% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES are white; 13% of the population is black, but 23.4% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES ARE BLACK
1.8 is way bigger than 0.61!!! As in, the average black person is three times more likely to be killed by a cop.
More white people are dying because America has more white people. Are you daft or just full-on racistposting? If you just admit it's the latter I'll stop pestering you.
You said it, more whites are dying. And whites aren't responding with violence.
blacks are 12.7% of the population but commit 53.1% of ALL MURDERS. Guess why they get shot at a slightly higher rate than their population percentage?
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By Valefor.Commodus 2020-06-02 00:12:11
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »This is helping Trump actually. The people getting looted and their businesses and homes destroyed are probably voters and they will be the ones to show up and remember this horror. The far left is advocating for the looting to continue and not to be stopped
And I'm sure those people will be silent if/when Trump brings in the military and starts mowing down American citizens. Because people like you can't get over the looting and see the whole picture here.
This is so extremely stupid. I do hope you'll come back and apologize for being a sensationalist to dizzying extremes when this definitely does not happen. This is absolute peak TDS.
Trump gassed people so he could walk across the street at a church and pose with a Bible. He also called in the military, and told all the governors, "You have to dominate...and put them away in jail for a long time." I don't know how you can say I have TDS and not be worried as *** about the implications of those actions and words.
You're a flat out liar and propagandist.
Trump gassed zero people. Show me one video of Trump gassing someone.
Trump has not called in "the military." He has supported governors activating their national guard units.
You don't understand anything you're saying. You're hyperventilating over sensationalist headlines that you do. not. understand.
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-06-02 00:13:16
Yeah. I am pretty fun to party with. However, the parties I hang out at don't let people that post "I'm not racist. I'd fu** a *****" on video game forum threads though where the ***** is an undeniable racist slur.
Who posted that?
This post "Pending moderation" on page 8. You can quote the post to reveal the text and then enter the url into your browser to see what I'm talking about.
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By Asura.Toeknee 2020-06-02 00:13:29
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Buddy, I KNOW you know what the word "ratio" means.
Go back to the *** graph you posted. 60% of the WHOLE POPULATION is white but only 37% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES are white; 13% of the population is black, but 23.4% of ALL POLICE FATALITIES ARE BLACK
1.8 is way bigger than 0.61!!! As in, the average black person is three times more likely to be killed by a cop.
More white people are dying because America has more white people. Are you daft or just full-on racistposting? If you just admit it's the latter I'll stop pestering you.
You said it, more whites are dying. And whites aren't responding with violence.
blacks are 12.7% of the population but commit 53.1% of ALL MURDERS. Guess why they get shot at a slightly higher rate than their population percentage?
You know this has been gone over countless times (proximity, poverty, gentrification, jim crowe, segregation). It's ok to say you're racist, this is a safe internet space, i'm sure you'll have a few supporters by your side
So yea been out of the loop, has the rebellion began?
Is sublime gonna make a 2020 edition? What cities are popping off? What was the "last straw"?
Stay tuned for more excitement in 2020....
Edit: diverting the latest corona shenanigans from random thoughts.
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