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Corona Virus, How has it affected your area so far?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-04-16 09:46:58
Quetzalcoatl.Kyren said: »It has nothing to do with privilege. It looks like you want the most out of the least amount of effort.
Guess what? You are only going to get out of life what you put into it. Same thing with how much money you get for your job.
But hey, deny reality all you want. Like I said with Directx, just because you wish for it doesn't mean it's going to be true.
I'm not the one denying reality lol.
That has nothing to do with what Savael said. He said that minimum wage jobs are not there to support a family. To think otherwise is devaluing every other job there is.
Ahahhahaha you complain about someone moving the goalposts 1 page ago and go then move the goalpost here. I love it! But you are denying reality. You believe things are worse than it is. But it isn't, no matter how much CNN tells you otherwise.
And I'm not moving goalposts. Reading Comprehension, do you have it? Or are you just trolling?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 12:08:15
PPP already ran out of funds
By Viciouss 2020-04-16 12:37:14
Speaking of Cuomo, he just extended the NY shutdown until May 15th, which means the rest of the country just got its shutdown extended until May 15th as well.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 12:37:34
The idea that they MIGHT need UP TO 40,000 was worst case scenario. Pre splitting. Pre bi-pap usage. assuming idiots gonna idiot and not follow guidelines for social distancing as well as they should.
Virologists and data experts gave numbers. Cuomo asked based on the projections.
Quote: "All the predictions say you could have an apex needing 140,000 beds and about 40,000 ventilators,” Cuomo said at a press briefing last Friday, relating predictions from health experts about the spread of the disease in the Empire State. Quote: “There are a lot of different calculations. My experience, I tend to believe Gov. Cuomo,” Fauci said.
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By Viciouss 2020-04-16 12:40:16
The idea that they MIGHT need UP TO 40,000 was worst case scenario. Pre splitting. Pre bi-pap usage. assuming idiots gonna idiot and not follow guidelines for social distancing as well as they should.
Virologists and data experts gave numbers. Cuomo asked based on the projections.
Quote: “There are a lot of different calculations. My experience, I tend to believe Gov. Cuomo,” Fauci said.
Don't bother, kireek has been flailing at Cuomo for weeks.
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By Viciouss 2020-04-16 12:44:50
Exhibit X.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 12:53:48
This isn't "the end" by the way. This is the middle.
And it may not even be the middle if supreme leader tries to force the country back to work and causes a second apex.
Not only that, but if you account for people that died in their homes instead of going to a hospital, how many ventilators would've actually been needed. You can't predict that people will be to embarrassed to go to the hospital and choose to die at home instead.
Also, how many people fled New York like rats from a sinking ship? I'll bet that put a serious unaccounted for change in the prediction of need.
Quote: The current number of ventilators deployed in the state are enough to meet the increased challenge that COVID-19 poses to the health care system. That said, health care professionals fear that the increasing number of cases could quickly overwhelm the system. Current stockpiles are meant to address that future need, though projections vary on whether that supply with be enough.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-04-16 13:15:52
Speaking of Cuomo, he just extended the NY shutdown until May 15th, which means the rest of the country just got its shutdown extended until May 15th as well. Highly doubt it. If anything, it extends the forced quarantine of anyone from NY to Texas until May 15th.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-04-16 14:50:04
US
28k D, 51k L, 639k C
79k Total 35/65
World
133k D, 510k L, 2047k C
643k Total 20/80
Don't mind me, just making a note, I'll come back to this in a week or so. US
33.5k D, 53.3k L, 657.7k C
86.8k Total 38/62
World
140.4k D, 537.5k L, 2113.2k C
677.9k Total 20.7/79.3
That's a 3% increase in the US ratio of death to life, in one day.
Along with another 18 THOUSAND, new confirmed cases. We do not have a handle on this. Once those numbers start drastically changing in favor of life increasing, maybe we are on top of it. It's getting worse.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 14:58:10
You've got to understand that it takes time to close a case as treated.
If 100 people go on a ventilator today. and 10 of them die tomorrow. there are 10/10 closed cases dead, but 90/100 still open because it takes 2 weeks for those cases to close. While that's technically 100% death rate... that's not accurate.
It goes without saying (it should) that people will die faster than recover, so yeah, closed cases resulting in death spike at the beginning and level out over time.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-04-16 15:02:17
7.8k cases were 'closed' yesterday/today. Of those new 'closed' cases, 5.5k of them died, 2.3k survived. Yea we are so on top of this, let's all go to the movies!
It's been 3-4 weeks now of this being taken seriously, the averages don't lie, but keep burying your head in the sand, it's fine.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 15:03:52
Because they don't immediately close a case unless you die.
Every "closed case" of death is every single closed case from 1/1-today
Every "closed case" of survival is people infected from 1/1-4/1 basically. There's a 2 week lag.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-04-16 15:06:32
Love how you ignore the additional 18k of confirmed infected, in the last 24 hours. If ***were under control enough to lift measures, that number should not be jumping 18k in 24 hours.
By Viciouss 2020-04-16 15:08:59
We have been averaging 30k new cases a day for weeks now, and 2k deaths per day all this week. No one, other than Trump, believes it's under control.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 15:09:10
I didn't ignore a mother *** thing, you need to read. guy.
CLOSED CASES aren't an indicator of anything. Data lags behind.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-04-16 15:11:58
Ok guy, 3-4 weeks averaging out, should equate to a good enough measure of effectiveness guy. Pro tip, if you die from this it ain't instant, it's a slow pain full death. 2-3 weeks to confirm you lived, roughly the same to confirm you died.
Where the hell did you get it stuck in your head that people are dieing instantly from this?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 15:12:45
What grade did you drop out in. Seriously.
Of every case opened today, only deaths will have closed cases for the next two weeks ish.
If you want an accurate(ish) death rate. Compare deaths from two weeks ago to recoveries today. and that fully ignores asymptomatic people.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-04-16 15:14:33
*** clown. Anyone who disagrees with your nonsense is totally mentally incompetent, ok stud totally won the argument with that ***.
Btw you didn't. Spouting your opinion as facts and calling anyone opposing your arguments stupid is not the way to win.
Grow up dipshit.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-04-16 15:35:50
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 15:44:20
One day you're going to see 300,000 closed cases happen in one day.
That's not because 300,000 people were magically cured that day, but because they finally caught up on paperwork. To absolutely no ones surprise (except yours and a couple other people that don't understand) all 300,000 of those cases will be survivals.
That also doesn't mean "it's over" it means they finally caught up on paperwork. and finally had the ability to run antibody tests.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 19:19:01
By Pantafernando 2020-04-16 19:20:04
Are there manifests in US atm?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 19:22:41
Manifests? Is that an auto correct.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/protests-coronavirus-stay-home-orders/index.html
Idiots in Michigan protested in front of a HOSPITAL in the capital.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2020-04-16 19:53:06
You've got to understand that it takes time to close a case as treated.
If 100 people go on a ventilator today. and 10 of them die tomorrow. there are 10/10 closed cases dead, but 90/100 still open because it takes 2 weeks for those cases to close. While that's technically 100% death rate... that's not accurate.
It goes without saying (it should) that people will die faster than recover, so yeah, closed cases resulting in death spike at the beginning and level out over time. In bold is patently false. There were people who lay in the ICU for 3 weeks before taking a hard turn for the worse and dying. You cannot say that people die faster than they recover.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2020-04-16 19:56:39
One day you're going to see 300,000 closed cases happen in one day.
That's not because 300,000 people were magically cured that day, but because they finally caught up on paperwork. To absolutely no ones surprise (except yours and a couple other people that don't understand) all 300,000 of those cases will be survivals.
That also doesn't mean "it's over" it means they finally caught up on paperwork. and finally had the ability to run antibody tests. YouTube Video Placeholder
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So, today was the first case of the virus being confirmed in my rural county.
This last week has been pretty insane to start. Most grocery stores have been emptied, toilet paper is non existent. Bars, hotels, and casinos have been shutdown as of yesterday, our town relies heavily on these sources of income. There are now rumors that our mine sites will soon be shutdown as well. I plan to withdraw a substantial amount of cash from the bank tomorrow morning, and hit every store I can get my hands on to get some groceries before the hoarding gets any worse.
I have heard of California being on total lockdown, as well of rumors of people even being imprisoned for attempting to leave the state.
Curious to hear how other parts of the country are getting along, surprised there isn't an official Corona-Virus thread here yet.
Crazy stuff.
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