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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-03-26 16:30:54
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We’re #1 with a bullet:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Those critical condition stats are no bueno.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 16:39:05
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Viciouss said: »
Just passed China with 13.7k new cases today.

Reported China cases.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-26 16:40:06
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Yeah, I was talking to my roomie about it, I don't trust a word China is saying. But, we have had a huge spike in cases today.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 16:46:06
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Yeah, I was talking to my roomie about it, I don't trust a word China is saying. But, we have had a huge spike in cases today.

Yeah. I wish we had better data all around. I think that most countries are trying hard to be honest with their reporting, but you never know. And obviously you can’t confirm cases unless you have the means to, so there are varying levels of underreporting and lag built in around the world.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-03-26 16:53:06
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Everybody knows China’s #s are deflated like Tom Brady’s balls.
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By Odinz 2020-03-26 17:10:34
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Looks like best place to be right now is China.





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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-26 17:13:07
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Odinz said: »
Looks like best place to be right now is China.

It's pretty easy to say your numbers are low when you have no issues killing anyone who tries to tell the truth about it.
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By Odinz 2020-03-26 17:14:26
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Yeah, I was talking to my roomie about it, I don't trust a word China is saying. But, we have had a huge spike in cases today.
WHO qualifies China as being highly transparent on its data.
They were reporting 10s of thousands of confirmed cases at the time when everyone else was brushing it off as the "flu".
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By Odinz 2020-03-26 17:18:15
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Odinz said: »
Looks like best place to be right now is China.

It's pretty easy to say your numbers are low when you have no issues killing anyone who tries to tell the truth about it.
Seriously? You think the Chinese government is able to contain 2 billion people?
Don't be ridiculous. Your talking about murder on scales like never before.
Why can't you accept that their "draconian" measures worked?
1/4 of the planet is trying to do the exact same thing.
There will be extreme cases where you see people being jailed and imprisoned for breaking curfews and isolationism in the west as well.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-26 17:18:25
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Odinz said: »
Viciouss said: »
Yeah, I was talking to my roomie about it, I don't trust a word China is saying. But, we have had a huge spike in cases today.
WHO qualifies China as being highly transparent on its data.
They were reporting 10s of thousands of confirmed cases at the time when everyone else was brushing it off as the "flu".

Yeah, sure, and they just "stopped" at 80k cases, with a 2 billion person population. Thats not even 10% of my home town's population. Its a safe bet that NYC already has more cases than that.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-26 18:02:23
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A town in America can have 800k residents? Sounds like bs.

uh, what?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-26 18:12:07
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You know that there are 8 million people in new york city yeah?
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-03-26 18:13:27
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I'm seeing:

23709 deaths out of 526044 cases worldwide...a 4.51% mortality rate
973 deaths out of 82404 cases in the US...a 1.18% mortality rate
578 deaths out of 11792 cases in the UK...a 4.90% mortality rate
41 deaths out of 2023 cases in Denmark...a 2.00$ mortality rate

It's constantly changing, and can be monitored here, in case you haven't seen this map.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 18:26:11
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Directx probably isn’t aware that “home town” in U.S. speak can signify a city of origin.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-26 18:48:10
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Yeah that disconnect makes sense. "home town" isn't a literal town. It's just where I'm from. Slang, as it were.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 20:19:13
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Speaking of New York, here are Cuomo's thoughts on the matter:

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that his stay-at-home order for the entirety of New York State was “probably not the best public health strategy.”

In a press conference in Albany, Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”

“What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”

“If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo admitted. “I don't even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “

Cuomo stressed the need for both public health and economic growth. “We have to do both,” said the governor. “We’re working on it.”
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By Viciouss 2020-03-26 20:25:12
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Cuomo has done a great job being brutally honest and taking ownership of the situation, as his state is drowning in this crisis. Its pretty remarkable how much he contrasts with Trump.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 20:32:01
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Cuomo has done a great job being brutally honest and taking ownership of the situation, as his state is drowning in this crisis. Its pretty remarkable how much he contrasts with Trump.

Interesting how some of the things that Trump has been saying are suddenly okay when coming out of the mouth of Cuomo.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-03-26 20:40:34
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Cuomo has done a great job being brutally honest and taking ownership of the situation, as his state is drowning in this crisis. Its pretty remarkable how much he contrasts with Trump.

Interesting how some of the things that Trump has been saying are suddenly okay when coming out of the mouth of Cuomo.

"The coronavirus is the new Democratic hoax", said Cuomo never.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 20:42:41
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Cuomo has done a great job being brutally honest and taking ownership of the situation, as his state is drowning in this crisis. Its pretty remarkable how much he contrasts with Trump.

Interesting how some of the things that Trump has been saying are suddenly okay when coming out of the mouth of Cuomo.

"The coronavirus is the new Democratic hoax", said Cuomo never.

Said Trump never. Give it up dude. Besides, I was talking within the context of the quote I shared.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-26 20:47:46
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"This is their new hoax" It doesn't matter if he's too stupid to know the meaning of the word, he said it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 20:50:00
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We've been over this so many times. I know what the quote is. Oz misquoted him, so therefore Trump never said what he quoted. This isn't hard.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-26 20:50:13
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Cuomo has done a great job being brutally honest and taking ownership of the situation, as his state is drowning in this crisis. Its pretty remarkable how much he contrasts with Trump.

Interesting how some of the things that Trump has been saying are suddenly okay when coming out of the mouth of Cuomo.

Because Trump hasn't been saying those things in the same context as Cuomo. Cuomo was reflecting on whats been happening, second guessing his choices. Trump has *never* done that.

Reminder, Trump did not have any say in any state's decision to shut down, nor will he have any say in the states' choices to reopen. Second reminder, he is on the record in saying he doesn't take any responsibility at all for whats happening.

He sent out a bogus letter to all the Governor's today, and my guess is they had the same reaction they did when he said Easter was his target date. Shred it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 20:50:15
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And for the record, I neither support nor curse Trump's response to the whole thing. I don't pretend to be an expert and many states were caught off guard too when they could have been much better prepared, so there is plenty of blame to go around.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-26 20:54:20
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Viciouss said: »
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Cuomo has done a great job being brutally honest and taking ownership of the situation, as his state is drowning in this crisis. Its pretty remarkable how much he contrasts with Trump.

Interesting how some of the things that Trump has been saying are suddenly okay when coming out of the mouth of Cuomo.

Because Trump hasn't been saying those things in the same context as Cuomo. Cuomo was reflecting on whats been happening, second guessing his choices. Trump has *never* done that.

Reminder, Trump did not have any say in any state's decision to shut down, nor will he have any say in the states' choices to reopen. Second reminder, he is on the record in saying he doesn't take any responsibility at all for whats happening.

He sent out a bogus letter to all the Governor's today, and my guess is they had the same reaction they did when he said Easter was his target date. Shred it.

Not questioning your analysis. I was hoping to get into the context of getting people back to work vs. mass quarantines. You know, a real discussion about what we should actually be doing instead of debating how bad Trump is at any given moment. I found it interesting to see someone in one of the worst states to be thinking that quarantine to such an extent may have been counterproductive.
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