That Impeachment Thing....

All of it.

Hearings, committees, Ukraine, conspiracy theories, Ukrainians, Rudy, Devin, Schiff, Nancy, the whole 9 yards.

I would respectfully ask that you hit preview before you submit, take a few slow deep breaths, reread, consider edits.

This thread isn't locked yet?

You are brave Chanti. :)

Personally I feel we would not be here, as in seriously considering impeachment, were it not for Rudy.

I think the Dems need to subpoena Bolton RFN. His testimony has a strong make or break possibility. They need it before filing articles of impeachment.

Interesting article. Spoiler: We have no idea what's in them. Or with whom.

House Intelligence Committee in possession of video, audio recordings from Giuliani associate Lev Parnas
ABC News

Oh, I think I told the regulars to watch that name and that there would be a test. This might be the test.

/popcorn

Scragg doesn't come down from Olympus for this stuff.

You get me instead!

Perhaps. And thanks.

Then again, if this thread blows up I will not be the one who blows it up.

If I get really brave, and if this one doesn't degenerate, I might start one on the 2020 dem race.

Honestly, that would be a far more interesting topic. We've been discussing Trump nonstop for years, and this impeachment thing isn't going anywhere. I would love to switch gears for once.

You can start it Rav.

I would rather be a thread-starter on a topic of personal interest. I'm not a Dem, and so my capacity to care is limited.

The dumbest part of all of it is that we already know the outcome, because everyone votes on party lines:

- The House will vote for impeachment
- The Senate will clear him in a trial.

The facts in either direction have never mattered less.

Well ... the impeachment ~was~ the Democrats 2020 election campaign. Before that it was the Mueller report. The judiciary committee will start things back up in a week or so and I expect a rehash of everything, only with a different coat of paint.

An interesting question is whether Peloski will risk sending this to the Senate, where the Republican controlled committee's can call their own witness's and ask their own questions without interference from Schiff and friends. The other option is the Democrats instead vote for a formal censor, which lets them declare a kinda victory without risking the Senate calling Eric Ciaramella or Schiff himself to answer very unflattering questions.

I'd love to discuss the Democrat candidates, but we know it's going to be Warren. I might of actually voted for Tulsi though, out of all the bunch she seemed level headed and almost a classic liberal, which many of us identify as.

I don't care what your political affiliation is, watching a PM lose their majority on live TV is some hilarious ***.

Well this was never about actual impeachment as that was virtually impossible from the start. I honestly believe this was about attempting to change public opinion and set the tone going into the 2020 election. A way for the Democrats to try to unbalance the monster that was 2016 Trump.

Sav... first, impeachment is in the house. Once the dems took the house impeachment instantly became possible.

Weren't the Bengazi hearings exactly "about attempting to change public opinion and set the tone going into the 2020 2016 election"?

Its not a "risk" to impeach Trump, its going to the Senate. Censure has never been on the table at any point.

non-sequitur

Here is my take on one democratic contender and that is Bloomberg.

After reading in some election laws and talking with a friend I feel he is there for advertising. I mean by election laws you can only donate so much money to one candidate which limits their ads. If you "are" a candidate there is no limit on how much of your own money you can spend. It is apparent from Bloomberg missing Iowa and NH that he is not serious about winning. He is responsible for a ton of anti Trump ads already, especially here in NY.

TL:DR: Bloomberg is only in it to use unlimited funds to slam Trump, there is no way in hell he could win.

FEC Website rules for self funding

He is only meant to inject money into anti Trump ads to get around FEC Laws.


Ny times article with above information

"We didn't start the impeachment"

The latest Billy Joel hit

Just vote already so we can move on the next outrage.

Donald Blumpf does not have cranberry sauce at Thanksgiving.

By God you gotta impeach him again !