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By spengler 2019-11-14 01:06:34
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Raelious shaking in his boots?
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:06:56
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This is going to get deleted. Nuked to hell.

I'm just glad the truth came out.

Wow. Infinite gil. Imagine that back in 2003-2006. Anyone would have felt like a God.

How did you guys feel when you made/discovered this? Did the game feel cheap?
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:07:38
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Also, without naming names, can you guys give us a ball park on how many people knew of this / used it? 12? 30? 500?
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By Asura.Aeonova 2019-11-14 01:10:15
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-11-14 01:10:34
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Rips said: »
Also, without naming names, can you guys give us a ball park on how many people knew of this / used it? 12? 30? 500?
By all accounts, Eli was not at all close lipped and he accidentally published part of it, so we really can't know how many or to what extent. Obviously, the ones who used it in the last month were the most obvious offenders, but this has been going on for quite a while so things can only get better regardless of how many people used it. Raelious is the only obvious user who hasn't been banned yet that comes to mind.

Rips said: »
This is going to get deleted. Nuked to hell.

I'm just glad the truth came out.
No reason to nuke it. It's fixed now, nobody can do it any more.

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Wow. Infinite gil. Imagine that back in 2003-2006. Anyone would have felt like a God.

How did you guys feel when you made/discovered this? Did the game feel cheap?
Honestly, I was expecting to find infinite medals, quietly report it, and go on with my life. When I saw the extent to which it went, I realized it had to go ASAP. Tards still gonna cry about how I did medals for my own benefit, but I could've just pulled infinite gil out of the coffer if I wanted gil. I wanted people thinking about medals.
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By Unzero 2019-11-14 01:11:55
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Asura.Zidaner said: »
now since you have more time on your hands use those smarts and dupe us all some free healthcare q.q

lol
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-11-14 01:12:06
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DirectX said: »
Is it patched now? Who’s gonna try it?

It is patched gamewide, it's a generic packet handler that effects every NPC in the game so it's very unlikely there's any way to still use it. I tested with 2 of the most irrelevant things I could think of before posting anything.
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:12:27
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This thread can still evolve.

We're all trying to live vicariously through you!
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By Unzero 2019-11-14 01:13:26
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Asura.Hrohj said: »
DirectX said: »
Is it patched now? Who’s gonna try it?

Are you slow?

A ton of people will try it, though
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By Jetackuu 2019-11-14 01:14:49
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Jetackuu said: »
but why? also "upgrade"

My 6 month old 970 EVO ***the bed and I figured it was as good a time as any to give windows 10 a shot, after sitting on windows 7 up until now. Don't worry, I already hate it, just waiting until my RMA is finished to go back.

There's a lot of tweaks, fortunately on a home pc with pro or higher most things can be manipulated.

A few can't but hey. It's a service not a product.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-11-14 01:14:54
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Rips said: »
Also, without naming names, can you guys give us a ball park on how many people knew of this / used it? 12? 30? 500?
You'll of course never get the exact number of people who used this thing.
If you ask me I think it was probably known for a long time (not since Aurix release though, mayhap) but it's been just a small number of people who made real smart use of the trick itself.
I.e. they didn't abuse it and only put on the market a small, finite number of medals/shards.

Recently, and we're talking about couple of months, word spread. This became more and more and more known and the more people knew about it the more likely it was to finally have people who abused of the trick, finally making it blatantly obvious that something was going on.


I dunno, what should our stance be?
Should we blame these "stupid" people for exploiting it too much and creating big consequences for the economy?
Should we be grateful because, thanks to them, the trick finally reached the spotlight and started a series of actions that will ultimately lead to the trick not working anymore?
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2019-11-14 01:16:08
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Rips said: »
Also, without naming names, can you guys give us a ball park on how many people knew of this / used it? 12? 30? 500?

If those people want to come out and say they knew, they can. I let people know what I was doing openly because I don't want to feel like a scammer.

Ill split this up:
1 on Odin.
2 on Asura.

Ball park 10, after it escaped those people there is no telling. I do know there was a few LS that got hit though.

My close friends on Lakshmi were aware, but mostly for the fact that Lakshmi has next to nothing to buy/get anyway.
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:16:24
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You know, if it was wide spread, and the core RMT got to it, maybe gil will eventually shoot up in price and people will be forced to participate in content instead of buying their way. *cough* Aeonic/Dyna Clears *cough

One could hope.
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:18:23
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Rips said: »
Also, without naming names, can you guys give us a ball park on how many people knew of this / used it? 12? 30? 500?
You'll of course never get the exact number of people who used this thing.
If you ask me I think it was probably known for a long time (not since Aurix release though, mayhap) but it's been just a small number of people who made real smart use of the trick itself.
I.e. they didn't abuse it and only put on the market a small, finite number of medals/shards.

Recently, and we're talking about couple of months, word spread. This became more and more and more known and the more people knew about it the more likely it was to finally have people who abused of the trick, finally making it blatantly obvious that something was going on.


I dunno, what should our stance be?
Should we blame these "stupid" people for exploiting it too much and creating big consequences for the economy?
Should we be grateful because, thanks to them, the trick finally reached the spotlight and started a series of actions that will ultimately lead to the trick not working anymore?

I definitely believe that if it could be done, someone would have done it.

We should place the blame with SE.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-14 01:19:01
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Rips said: »
You know, if it was wide spread, and the core RMT got to it, maybe gil will eventually shoot up in price and people will be forced to participate in content instead of buying their way. *cough* Aeonic/Dyna Clears *cough

One could hope.

I wouldn't count on it. They still didn't do anything about all the gil/items, price isn't going back up, nor will anyone stop buying.
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:19:20
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I bet this ***is going to spread to Nasomi.

Not that many people here care, but the playerbase there will - for sure.
 
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-11-14 01:20:20
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Why dupe when you can dual wield your medals, step it up bois.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-14 01:20:49
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Asura.Hrohj said: »
You're going to blame SE for this? Seriously?

Why wouldn't you? How many *** ups does it take until it's ok to blame them.
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:21:09
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Asura.Hrohj said: »
You're going to blame SE for this? Seriously?

Nah. I'm being facetious. I blame their code for allowing this to happen, but I dont know much about coding - like at all - so maybe it wasnt avoidable.

I dont know.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2019-11-14 01:21:42
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Asura.Hrohj said: »
You're going to blame SE for this? Seriously?
I wouldn't blame them, but to be honest if I wasn't so bored with lack of things to do I would have never been sitting in town wasting my time writing lua in the first place. FFXI is in a stagnant state, but that doesn't make them responsible.
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By Jetackuu 2019-11-14 01:21:50
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Asura.Hrohj said: »
You're going to blame SE for this? Seriously?
It's their fault such an easy exploit was possible.

So yes it is their fault.
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By spengler 2019-11-14 01:23:28
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Rips said: »
I bet this ***is going to spread to Nasomi.

Not that many people here care, but the playerbase there will - for sure.

Doesn't work there. Was fixed long ago. It's not the same code at all
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:24:34
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Now I'm trying to think - if it was trading/packets after all, and this was in the game all along from vanilla, what could be done back then?

Infinite dyna currency.

But then it would have been really obvious if you had a felic out of nowhere- especially back then.
 
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:26:08
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spengler said: »
Rips said: »
I bet this ***is going to spread to Nasomi.

Not that many people here care, but the playerbase there will - for sure.

Doesn't work there. Was fixed long ago. It's not the same code at all

Goes to show I dont know ***.

I paid someone $40 USD to write my thf and geo lua code in the past. That's how challenged I am at coding.
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By Jetackuu 2019-11-14 01:27:49
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Not insane at all. It's SE's fault for being so lazy with their code. No sympathy from me for the exploiters, but knowing damn well how they are they should not have let such a thing be possible.
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By Rips 2019-11-14 01:27:56
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Asura.Hrohj said: »
You're insane. You can't blame SE for some duplicitous players developing some packet-injection script to cheat their way to infinite Gil. The game is old, yes. The game is stagnant, yes. However, neither of those are acceptable reasons to cheat the way these people did and you trying to blame SE for it just makes you seem like you're sympathizing with a bunch of crack-pots.

I'm not sympathizing or judging.

I do find it all fascinating though.

Do you not realize - that even though we were bystanders - we were a part of FFXI history here?
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