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 Lakshmi.Darkdoom
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-11-13 14:02:31
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Caerda said: »
Depends on the ban also, if its an IP ban they won't be back.

Its not an IP ban. Ultimate collection is even on sale right now, won't take long for people to come back if they want too.
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By Mrxi 2019-11-13 14:05:22
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Yeah its more like a termination of all the accounts from that IP in whatever time frame they decide. as far as i know. but even if they decided to block the IP there is ways around it.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2019-11-13 14:06:14
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you can come back from ip ban by buying a new house

Let's be real. How often is someone going to buy a new house or apartment and move every time they get a ban just to keep playing the game? Besides, IP addresses are assigned by your ISP, and they're associated with your router. Your physical location has nothing to do with it. You could just change service providers to get a new one. The reason your IP address changes when you move from one house to another is because you have to go through the process of setting up your account at the new location again. And during that process a new IP address is generated from the pool of IP's available to them at the time.

Fun fact, it's technically possible to get the same IP address when you move houses if you keep the same ISP. When the account at your old location gets deactivated the IP address accociated with it is freed so the ISP can reuse it again. The liklihood of that ever happening is extremely slim though, because ISP's have a pretty large bucket of addresses to work with, and the new IP address you get is going to be assigned randomly. The odds are like winning the lottery, only in this case you end up losing. But even if the odds are one in a million it's still not impossible.
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By Mrxi 2019-11-13 14:09:31
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
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you can come back from ip ban by buying a new house

Let's be real. How often is someone going to buy a new house or apartment and move every time they get a ban just to keep playing the game? Besides, IP addresses are assigned by your ISP, and they're associated with your router. Your physical location has nothing to do with it. You could just change service providers to get a new one. The reason your IP address changes when you move from one house to another is because you have to go through the process of setting up your account at the new location again. And during that process a new IP address is generated from the pool of IP's available to them at the time.

Fun fact, it's technically possible to get the same IP address when you move houses if you keep the same ISP. When the account at your old location gets deactivated the IP address accociated with it is freed so the ISP can reuse it again. The liklihood of that ever happening is extremely slim though, because ISP's have a pretty large bucket of addresses to work with, and the new IP address you get is going to be assigned randomly. But it's not impossible.
If you have the money that is easiest way but im sure there is other ways if it was actualy blocked. idk im not a hacker.
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-11-13 14:10:33
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Mrxi said: »
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you can come back from ip ban by buying a new house

Let's be real. How often is someone going to buy a new house or apartment and move every time they get a ban just to keep playing the game? Besides, IP addresses are assigned by your ISP, and they're associated with your router. Your physical location has nothing to do with it. You could just change service providers to get a new one. The reason your IP address changes when you move from one house to another is because you have to go through the process of setting up your account at the new location again. And during that process a new IP address is generated from the pool of IP's available to them at the time.

Fun fact, it's technically possible to get the same IP address when you move houses if you keep the same ISP. When the account at your old location gets deactivated the IP address accociated with it is freed so the ISP can reuse it again. The liklihood of that ever happening is extremely slim though, because ISP's have a pretty large bucket of addresses to work with, and the new IP address you get is going to be assigned randomly. But it's not impossible.
If you have the money that is easiest way but im sure there is other ways if it was actualy blocked. idk im not a hacker.


Just using a vpn should be plenty.
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By Tanag 2019-11-13 14:12:10
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Changing your IP is trivial, even without changing service providers. IP banning doesn't work and no serious company would even try.

As others have said, they just ban all accounts associated with the same IP or billing info.
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By spengler 2019-11-13 14:12:22
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No idea why this is being discussed, people who understand how SE bans already said there were no IP bans.

You also don't have to do anything that any of you said, you can simply call your ISP and make up a reason and they will assign you a new IP.

ipv4 is the public addressing scheme that is most widely used, there are only 4 million ipv4 addresses. No one serious bans by IP.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2019-11-13 14:12:37
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Just using a vpn should be plenty.

Pretty much. Moving is NOT the easiest way to get a new IP address. Trust me on this. There are far simpler ways to do it. VPN being one of them.
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By Mrxi 2019-11-13 14:12:56
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Would a VPN ensure you are safe when the F.B.I. gets involved?
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By Bahamut.Suph 2019-11-13 14:13:20
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Well, Bahamut have a casualty

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By Fenrir.Melphina 2019-11-13 14:14:42
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Would a VPN ensure you are safe when the F.B.I. gets involved?

No.
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By fonewear 2019-11-13 14:15:11
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Bahamut.Suph said: »
Well, Bahamut have a casualty


That is probably have the population of Bahamut too !
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-11-13 14:15:35
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Mrxi said: »
Would a VPN ensure you are safe when the F.B.I. gets involved?


This isn't riot man, they aren't gonna dissapear you for cheating in their game.
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By Shichishito 2019-11-13 14:16:18
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there are cheaper ways than buying a new hourse or even paying for VPN. depending on where you live you get a new IP every 24 hours and you actually have to pay extra to have a IP permanently assigned to your location.

you could also just restart your router.
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By Cerberus.Mrkillface 2019-11-13 14:16:29
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Some providers will change your IP at your request or if your ip somehow ends up on a blacklist (not sure cheating at a game qualifies). Some will reassign a new IP whenever you update/reset your modem. Some don't even assign static ips unless you are a business customer.

And obviously if you're savvy enough to spoof packets, you can probably figure out how to spoof an IP too.
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By fonewear 2019-11-13 14:16:45
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I heard if you buy enough stock in Square Enix they can remove your ban.
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By spengler 2019-11-13 14:17:55
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Bahamut.Suph said: »
Well, Bahamut have a casualty


Not sure what the protocol is on naming names but it's highly likely this LS was the one that abused the exploit from some credible sources.
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By Asura.Aeonova 2019-11-13 14:18:47
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-11-13 14:19:10
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Bahamut.Suph said: »
Well, Bahamut have a casualty



BUUU.....BUUTTTTTT I THOUGHT ASURA WAS TO BLAME

GTFOHWTBS
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2019-11-13 14:20:19
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There's more to tracking than just IP address. Every device also has a MAC address. An IP address can change, but a MAC address will NEVER change. MAC addresses are specific to the device. Every router, motherboard, network card etc etc with one assigned to it has a unique MAC address that will never be used by another device. The FBI has many methods of tracking activity. And when they send requests to ISPs for investigation they get back IP addresses, Mac addresses and several other types of tracking data too. And the ISP's WILL cooperate with an FBI investigation.


Also this discussion just got WAAAY off topic. Lets go back to Packet memes and medal drama ok? It's a lot more fun.
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By Shichishito 2019-11-13 14:20:59
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Mrxi said: »
Would a VPN ensure you are safe when the F.B.I. gets involved?
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By Bahamut.Negan 2019-11-13 14:21:31
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Bahamut.Suph said: »
Well, Bahamut have a casualty



BUUU.....BUUTTTTTT I THOUGHT ASURA WAS TO BLAME

GTFOHWTBS

JUST when I thought this thread couldn't POSSIBLY get any better!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Commencal 2019-11-13 14:22:14
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spengler said: »
Bahamut.Suph said: »
Well, Bahamut have a casualty


Not sure what the protocol is on naming names but it's highly likely this LS was the one that abused the exploit from some credible sources.

Clarity would be awesome. As far as I can tell, it only mentions creating player warning threads. Aside from the being a jerk clause, what else could it fall under?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-13 14:23:15
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Posting an LS message breaks no rules, however I do want to see where this goes... lol

Dreadnaut members have been pretty high and mighty lately, how many got bant. Sorry about gist though, that blows you just spent the 20 bucks to join them and now they're gone, thats just ***.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-11-13 14:23:41
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Bahamut.Negan said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Bahamut.Suph said: »
Well, Bahamut have a casualty



BUUU.....BUUTTTTTT I THOUGHT ASURA WAS TO BLAME

GTFOHWTBS

JUST when I thought this thread couldn't POSSIBLY get any better!

Asura constantly getting blamed for stuff when others are just as dirty. Time to air that ***out. Can't hide your hands now.
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-11-13 14:24:11
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Quetzalcoatl.Commencal said: »
spengler said: »
Bahamut.Suph said: »
Well, Bahamut have a casualty


Not sure what the protocol is on naming names but it's highly likely this LS was the one that abused the exploit from some credible sources.

Clarity would be awesome. As far as I can tell, it only mentions creating player warning threads. Aside from the being a jerk clause, what else could it fall under?

Don't accuse people or linkshells when you don't actually know, I would imagine.
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By fonewear 2019-11-13 14:24:37
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All people that were banned are already back up and cheating. That was a scary couple of hours.
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By spengler 2019-11-13 14:24:53
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
There's more to tracking than just IP address. Every device also has a MAC address. An IP address can change, but a MAC address will NEVER change. MAC addresses are specific to the device. Every router, motherboard, network card etc etc with one assigned to it has that a unique address ythat will never be used by another device. The FBI has many methods of tracking activity. And when they send requests to ISPs for investigation into IP addresses and internet activity the ISP's WILL cooperate. It's extremely hard to hide from the FBI, and they have many ways of tracking down internet activity.


Also this discussion just got WAAAY off topic. Lets go back to Packet memes and medal drama ok? It's a lot more fun.

Your router stores your MAC address, nothing past that is storing it for your every day PC. You can also change or spoof your MAC address very easily. It's primary purpose is to just be a unique identifier in a network so that traffic knows what to do.

The latter part of what you said is true though, VPN companies have to comply with certain government entities so you can definitely be traced through a VPN but not for something trivial like torrenting.
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By fonewear 2019-11-13 14:26:39
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You can avoid all this IP and MAC address stuff if you send SE some hot packets.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2019-11-13 14:28:46
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Mrxi said: »
Caerda said: »
Depends on the ban also, if its an IP ban they won't be back.
you can come back from ip ban by buying a new house. possibly other ways. so lets say 100% of the 1000 banned people did this. it would just turn to 30,000 profit for them

You gotta be a special kind of geek to buy a new *** house just to keep playing a video game lmao
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