Just a tack on to this, how much burden does flame holder generate now? (I suppose that it's not really possible to quantify aside from "too much to use without overdrive" or "possible to use without overdrive")
does overload minus gear do anything, or still only work on use of maneuver?
And it cannot actually overload until you perform a fire manuever, no matter how high the burden gets, yes?
I was testing this today doing CP on Apex bats and crabs--in a trio pt of whm, cor, and pup. Trusts were shantotto, Joachim and koru. I was using beast roll and Sam roll.
My little Muffin was doing 3-4 WSs every 45s--also using "cooldown"--and my "chance of overloading" never went above 0% for the entire ~90 min.
Sunday I tried to purposely spam Muffin's WSs as much as possible. Same pt setup but I used puppets roll and beast roll.
*note* It's hard for me to verify what current burden is prior to the chat log saying anything but 0%
With double fire and Wind, Muffin was able to WS an avg. of 2 every 15s. Even with with cooldown I was overloading continually after the first 5 min.
Second test was light, fire, wind and my overload chance only hit 8% once and that was forgetting to use cooldown and right after activating.
Third test was double wind and a fire, muffin lasted about 3.5 min and same with 2 fire and a wind, muffin stayed overloaded even with cooldown.
activate>maneuvers>fun>overload>cooldown>fun>overload
*edit#2* I should have noted that when I had 2 fire and light, that after overloading and using cooldown, that I waited around 2 min before engaging. Muffin used one WS and
My fire maneuver had 15s left, I refreshed it and chat said 18% chance. My cooldown still had 2+ min so I waited till the timer was 1 min before engaging again. My maneuver timers were up to about 3+ min duration.
I engaged Muffin and she immediately used a ws, and about 15s later used another, I couldn't tell if my fire maneuver had been auto refreshed or what but chat log said 81% chance of overload and Muffin had overloaded at that point.
I even tried 2 fires and light but the result was 4 min till overload and way fewer WSs.
*edit* i was using max -overload equips minus the neck, earring and kenkonken, for maneuvers.
The only time I wasn't using the -overload h2h was locking my weapon to ohtas when muffin was doing 3-4 WSs every 45s.