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Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
"Misleading", ha. You thought it wasn't an "anonymous source" because it was reported by BBC. What's misleading about my characterization of your ignorance?
He can’t handle the embarrassment of being so wrong so he tried to social construct it out of existence.
Nausi said: » He can’t handle the embarrassment of being so wrong so he tried to social construct it out of existence. The only things being socially constructed out of existence are the many false claims you have been making. They're very easy to debunk. Alternate headline:
TURKEY IS INTERFERING IN OUR ELECTION BY CAVING TO TRUMPS DEMANDS. INPEACH! You havnt debunked anything. Just pretended to.
The acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney admitted on Thursday that President Donald Trump withheld foreign aid in order to get Ukraine’s help in the U.S. election.
If you click on the link, there are videos of him stating this. Wrong. Mulvaney doesn’t admit to a quid pro quo. What did he get for withholding the aid that was already flowing to ukraine?
Please point to the part of the transcript where there’s a quid pro quo?
Gosh imagine pinning all your hopes on someone claiming a presidential letter is written like a 10 year old, only to have it totally work and bring a ceasefire.
How embarrassing life is for lefties today. Nausi said: » Gosh imagine pinning all your hopes on someone claiming a presidential letter is written like a 10 year old, only to have it totally work and bring a ceasefire. How embarrassing life is for lefties today. Better yet, imagine being provided a link showing confirmation of the Quid Pro Quo and sticking your fingers in your ear screaming lalalalala. Now where are those links you were going to provide that substantiated your claims in the previous posts? Maybe check in that embarrassing life folder? Thats not what he said. Your article is flat out wrong.
There was no admission to a quid pro quo. AND you’re incapable of pointing to it in the transcript (because it didn’t happen). Imagine having to deflect to literal fake headlines because Trumps victory in Turkey today is so awesome. Carbuncle.Skulloneix
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Smart people turn to complete thoughtless dumb *** just regurgitating what CNN tells them. NOW EXCUSE ME AS I TURN FOX ON! (JK, I don't watch or listen to Fox News) Nausi said: » Thats not what he said. Your article is flat out wrong. There was no admission to a quid pro quo. AND you’re incapable of pointing to it in the transcript (because it didn’t happen). Imagine having to deflect to literal fake headlines because Trumps victory in Turkey today is so awesome. Then don't read the article, watch the video interviews. He states it quite clearly. Carbuncle.Skulloneix
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: » That is 100% false. There is a lot actually, and it continues to pour in. Just because you choose not to see it, doesn't mean it that it doesn't exist. Carbuncle.Skulloneix
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Gotta love those anonymous sources. Funny how so many of them just happen to have left-promoting "bombshells" to divulge. Carbuncle.Skulloneix
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: » Nausi said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » What people need to realize is that no president will ever be removed from office while his own party's support is still high. It would be political suicide for any senator in that party to vote to convict. So yeah, unless your "bombshells" trigger a massive exodus of support from Trump's own base, you have nothing. So far, not only has Republican support hardly budged in the last month, but independent support has hardly budged. Congratufreakinglations, you did it. This will be the very first time! Nausi said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » What people need to realize is that no president will ever be removed from office while his own party's support is still high. It would be political suicide for any senator in that party to vote to convict. So yeah, unless your "bombshells" trigger a massive exodus of support from Trump's own base, you have nothing. So far, not only has Republican support hardly budged in the last month, but independent support has hardly budged. Congratufreakinglations, you did it. Ragnarok.Ozment said: » Nausi said: » Thats not what he said. Your article is flat out wrong. There was no admission to a quid pro quo. AND you’re incapable of pointing to it in the transcript (because it didn’t happen). Imagine having to deflect to literal fake headlines because Trumps victory in Turkey today is so awesome. Then don't read the article, watch the video interviews. He states it quite clearly. That is neither illegal nor a quid pro quo. We use money as a carrot in our foreign policy all the time. Besides, Biden is on tape bragging about his corruption. the President is obligated to look into it. Dems do not see the big play here I think. Trump just got them all to support a war.... The party of antiwar now fighting to deploy keep troops in Syria. Watch Trump turn around and say ok we will keep them there or add more that's what you wanted. He's the guy that wants to end wars and now dems are fighting for one....
Genius.. Lefties salivating over this is hilarious. Schiff and Pelosi know they are about to be implicated in the biggest scandal in us history.
All roads lead to Obama and the dems. Nausi said: » Lefties salivating over this is hilarious. Schiff and Pelosi know they are about to be implicated in the biggest scandal in us history. All roads lead to Obama and the dems. Righties deflecting over all this is even more hilarious. Trump is toast, but let's deflect to Schiff, oh wait, no...Pelosi. Let's deflect to Obama instead. Can we take a step back for a sec? I know I've asked this in the past, but I've rarely received a straight answer.
What do you leftists actually think will come of this? Not in a "har dee har popcorn lolz Trump in trouble" kind of way, I mean the actual outcome. If it's too hard to put together a rational thought sequence, you can choose from a scale of 1 (The same thing that has always happened, i.e. next to nothing) to 10 (Trump thrown out of office). So, I looked more into this "ceasefire agreement," and its remarkable how Team Trump is confused about how ceasefires actually work. Its not a difficult concept, generally two sides that are shooting at each other agree to stop said shooting.
Thats not what happened today. I can't find a single source that has the Kurds and Assad agreeing to Turkey's explicit withdrawal terms. Only that the Kurds accept the term that Turkey is going to stop shooting, and they want to evacuate their civilians. But there is nothing about them ceding land to the Turks. Assad is on the record today saying his forces are moving to meet the Turks, no mention of any withdrawal. In other words, Turkey has agreed to stop shooting for 120 hours to allow the Kurds and Assad to withdraw from the lands they are fighting over, which they have not agreed to do. This is definitely being overhyped. Which I get, Trump is desperate for a win, no matter how minor. I doubt the 5 day agreement lasts for half that time, especially since there is still a lot of fighting in other cities. Just watched the whole clip. In no way does he admit to a quid pro quo.
facts I don't like and headline bait strikes again. Ragnarok.Ozment said: » Nausi said: » Thats not what he said. Your article is flat out wrong. There was no admission to a quid pro quo. AND you’re incapable of pointing to it in the transcript (because it didn’t happen). Imagine having to deflect to literal fake headlines because Trumps victory in Turkey today is so awesome. Then don't read the article, watch the video interviews. He states it quite clearly. Right? He is on video, admitting a quid pro quo. After receiving horrible backlash from within, he tries to clean it up later, but it doesn't matter. He is on the record admitting they held up the money because they wanted an investigation into Biden. Full stop. |
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